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Samsung on Tuesday launched its flagship Galaxy S III smartphone in 28 countries across Europe and the Middle East, where it will compete head-to-head with Apple's iPhone 4S.

The Galaxy S III launched Tuesday in a number of countries across the region, including the U.K. and Germany. By the end of July, Samsung expects to have the Galaxy S III available in 145 countries on 296 wireless operators.

No official indication has been given as to when Samsung plans to launch the Galaxy S III in the U.S., but various rumors have pointed toward a launch in mid-to-late June.

Samsung boasted on Tuesday that the Galaxy S III has already become the most-preordered Android handset ever at carrier Vodafone U.K.

A report from Reuters on Tuesday compared the launch of Samsung's latest smartphone to an Apple product debut. It noted that about 50 customers were lined up outside of a BASE mobile phone shop in Berlin on Monday.

Hype for the Galaxy S III has been significant as the device is expected to outsell its predecessor, the Galaxy S II, which reached 20 million sales worldwide. The Galaxy lineup has been comprised of Samsung's flagship Android smartphones, designed to take on Apple's market-leading iPhone.

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The launch of the Galaxy S III comes months before Apple is expected to launch its sixth-generation iPhone. Rumors have pegged the next iPhone to launch this October, a full year after its predecessor, the iPhone 4S.

Samsung unveiled the quad-core Galaxy S III earlier this month. It features a 4.8-inch HD Super AMOLED screen, a 1.4-gigahertz processor, one gigabyte of RAM, and available capacities of 16, 32 and 64 gigabytes.

Last week, Samsung officials deflected criticism of the design of the new handset, stating that its look and feel was not changed due to litigation from Apple. Samsung currently faces a number of patent infringement suits from Apple that accuse the company of copying the design of the iPhone and iPad in its own products.
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Still can't get over how fugly it is. 

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Wait, its released in the UK already?

I've seen a grand total of one television advert where the SIII had a very brief stint (we're talking 5 seconds of air time) and maybe two paper posters. If this is supposed to be Samsung's biggest and baddest phone to date then they're being very lax on the advertising. Maybe they're taking the Commodore Computer approach and just letting word of mouth do the advertising (and we all know how that ended).

 

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Still can't get over how fugly it is. 

Maybe its the "Samsung copying everything" bug that is still in my system talking, but the first thing that came to mind when I looked at that picture was "iPod Touch 2nd Gen".

 

Also, if the third iteration is "designed for humans", were the other two designs for genetically modified cow people or something? (aka: that tag line makes no donkey-boffing-sense what-so-ever!)

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Wait, its released in the UK already?

I've seen a grand total of one television advert where the SIII had a very brief stint (we're talking 5 seconds of air time) and maybe two paper posters. If this is supposed to be Samsung's biggest and baddest phone to date then they're being very lax on the advertising. Maybe they're taking the Commodore Computer approach and just letting word of mouth do the advertising (and we all know how that ended).

 

Maybe its the "Samsung copying everything" bug that is still in my system talking, but the first thing that came to mind when I looked at that picture was "iPod Touch 2nd Gen".

 

Also, if the third iteration is "designed for humans", were the other two designs for genetically modified cow people or something? (aka: that tag line makes no donkey-boffing-sense what-so-ever!)

How about that "inspired by nature" line?  lol.gif

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It looks like Samsung is starting the old specs game again, and unfortunately, people are sensitive for that. I remember well when in the '90's Apple used PowerPC chips with much lower frequencies than most PCs with Intel chips, yet the Apple computers were as powerful as the PCs. But almost everybody stared themselves blind at the numbers. Where as other manufacturers (Samsung) have to install tons of GHz and GB to make up for losses in firmware and software that is not their own, Apple has the same answer as it had then: they build both hardware and software and the result is a highly integrated product that seamlessly fits in Apples existing ecosystem. This is what is important for me. 

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"I have a confession to make. When I first laid eyes on the Samsung Galaxy S3, I thought the design was unappealing and uninspired. I felt that the styling was a bit dated; akin to a slight upgrade of the Nexus One. From the initial launch invitation which featured marble white and blue blobs, I expected something more raw, more edgy. I was expecting a fusion of liquid metal and styling from Verizon’s iconic Droid campaigns. I was expecting to be impressed, to be blown to pieces with something completely revolutionary.

 

Honestly, I am in love. It was love at first touch, and all preconceived notions I had about the S3 design have melted away, and been replaced by pure technological bliss and delight.

 

Getting the device for the first time, I find myself in a perpetual state of what can only be described as ‘eureka moments’. The whole ‘inspired by nature’ talk began to make sense. It’s a design that works perfectly.  Quite simply, the design of the Samsung Galaxy S3 is a breath of fresh air in the midst of sharp and edgy ubiquitous mobile design."

 

http://www.androidauthority.com/samsung-galaxy-s3-review-video-89883/

 

 

This is from a representative of the Android community.  The group that refers to Apple customers as "iSheep" under the influence of the "Reality Distortion Field." 

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I dont think its ugly, I just dont think its gorgeous either.  Either way its not impressive enough to make me switch from my 4S.

 

While I appreciate the competition & motivation that the Android OS and its manufacters (especially Samsung) have provided to Apple and its iPhone, it still seems like a bunch of spec whoring.  Apple competitors still dont understand the attraction to Apple.. comes from the user experience, elegance of its devices and that if they are easy to use & "just work" then people could care less about specs.  I have just two gripes about my 4S & 4 that I've used for almost two years now.  The screen is definitely too small screen and I need the faster 4G/LTE connection.  Make an iPhone5 with a bigger screen & LTE and I'll pre-order it for full price today.  

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Also, if the third iteration is "designed for humans", were the other two designs for genetically modified cow people or something? (aka: that tag line makes no donkey-boffing-sense what-so-ever!)

 

"Amateur Hour is Over" had already been taken and that's all they had left...

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Maybe its the "Samsung copying everything" bug that is still in my system talking, but the first thing that came to mind when I looked at that picture was "iPod Touch 2nd Gen".

 

I too thought it looked like the iPod touch.  They really can't come up with their own ideas.

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A report from Reuters on Tuesday compared the launch of Samsung's latest smartphone to an Apple product debut. It noted that about 50 customers were lined up outside of a BASE mobile phone shop in Berlin on Monday.
Hype for the Galaxy S III has been significant as the device is expected to outsell its predecessor, the Galaxy S II, which reached 20 million sales worldwide. The Galaxy lineup has been comprised of Samsung's flagship Android smartphones, designed to take on Apple's market-leading iPhone.
 

 

50 people. even the first Verizon launch for the iPhone had more folks at the stores than that. 

 

Also were those 20 million sales to end users or the channel. Samsung has been caught pulling that trick before. 

 

oh and 'months ahead'. 3 months, 4 tops. Hardly the ages and ages that the tone of the article implies. And even with a 4 month lead, the iPhone could still trample this phone. 

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Still can't get over how fugly it is. 

 

Amazing that a phone that took all it's design cues from the iPhone 4 series and the iPod touch could turn out so blah looking. 

 

Samsung needs to focus on finding a new source of inspiration and on making the best Android phone possible. Beat that group and they might have a shot at coming close to the iPhone in terms of actual sales to users and activations that stick around beyond 2 weeks. 

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oh and 'months ahead'. 3 months, 4 tops. Hardly the ages and ages that the tone of the article implies. And even with a 4 month lead, the iPhone will still trample this phone. 

 

There... fixed that for you.

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It looks like Samsung is starting the old specs game again, and unfortunately, people are sensitive for that.

 

I think folks are starting to get off that. The older folks that are of the computer generation perhaps not as quickly but the kiddies want the games, the cool factor etc. They want what Zooey has cause she's cute and perky and so adorably twee. Or what Samuel L "I want to play some MF Angry Birds on my MF iPhone" Jackson has cause he's the bomb. Businesses like the whole "1 OS to support" and how Apple will work with them to get their in house apps going. And it goes hurt when they walk in to shop for those devices and see Apple running their own show off a fleet of iPod touches, iPhones and iPads. Or how they made an app that lets you page for help or even ring out accessories to yourself. And what you use at work or even school can carry over to choices when you need to replace the home equipment so it's all good. Folks are thinking about 'what can it do' and 'how will i get help' over the QXZ rating or what the MORP factor or whatever other sounds like nonsense spec is being tossed around. 

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The screen on the iPhone was designed so that all parts of it are accessable  using one hand.  If it were any bigger, than that would not be possible.

 

And it fits in your pocket.  Any bigger, and it would be inconveniently large.

 

4G is not yet ready for prime time.  The coverage is spotty.  Lots of countries don't even have it yet.  

 

Apple stuff just works.  Huge phones with 4G do  not.

I disagree.  They could make the phone is almost the same overall size factor, with a bigger 4" screen, simply by using a thinner bezel.  The phone doesnt have to be "inconveniently large".

 

4G is already primetime, why do you think Apple has already introduced a 4G iPad?  4G is currently available in every major US city.  Outside of that fact, Verizon already has 2/3rds of the US covered and is still bringing cities online, AT&T is getting close to 1/2, Sprint & Tmobile have just started bringing major cities online now.  Coverage will never be exactly 100%, you cant wait forever for that.  There are still vast sections of America without 3G coverage, you'd literally be waiting forever for 4G to hit those place.

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There... fixed that for you.

 

I"m not a stock analyst so I don't make firm statements about what will happen. But yes, it is very very possible you are correct. 

 

Then again, given how much it looks like a flattened iPhone it might not release in a few places due to Apple calling foul on the design. I mean that metal on the outside was sooooo an Apple thing (remember all the crap they got about it) that Samsung would have been idiots to follow it unless they wanted folks to think "iPhone but better cause it's 4 inches" blah blah. A blind man could see that they were 'inspired by' Apple on that one. And as has been pointed out several times in all that crap Apple got, that move was neither obvious or essential so Samsung won't be able to fall back on those claims

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4G is already primetime, why do you think Apple has already introduced a 4G iPad?  

 

I disagree about 4g being primetime. the iPad isn't generally a constant connection so you really can't use it to judge the feelings about 4g being ready because it isn't likely stressing the system much if at all. Perhaps a summer of folks traveling around when they are more likely to turn on the 4g on their iPads will give us that data to judge but right now I don't think it's there

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Amazing that a phone that took all it's design cues from the iPhone 4 series and the iPod touch could turn out so blah looking. 

"There can't be two handsets more different when it comes to their appearance than the Galaxy S III and iPhone 4S." - PhoneArena

Honestly, have you seen the phone at all?
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Of course all the techie sites are drooling over this phone, one site saying the phone is light years ahead of the iPhone. And people complain about Apple hype and Apple fanboys/isheep. lol.gif
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Also were those 20 million sales to end users or the channel. Samsung has been caught pulling that trick before. 

It's actually even more subtle than that. It's 'preorders', not sales. Preorders can be canceled. Furthermore, think about Sprint's decision to purchase 20 M iPhones over 4 years. The way Samsung is tallying things, that would have counted as a 20 M unit sales day since Sprint agreed to buy them at some time in the future.

With any of the Android numbers, there's far too much obfuscation going on. Let's wait for real sales figures.
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No, it's not preorders. The Galaxy S II has been out for a year now, they're sales.
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How about that "inspired by nature" line?  lol.gif

Referring to something like this, I suppose: http://www.natureandmore.com/products/apple

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No, it's not preorders. The Galaxy S II has been out for a year now, they're sales.

I think you're in the wrong place. This thread is about the Galaxy S III. And I was referring to the recent article bragging about Samsung's preorders for the S III.

Furthermore, even for the S II, where are the sales figures? Samsung doesn't publish them.
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They might have took the page from Xbox 360 battle plan. It comes out at least 6 months before the expected iPhone 5 and available for cash-and-carry at this. Not for the North America and true for East Asia where Samsung counts on more today. They believe if you come out really early, perhaps half a year before your competitors do like this, and build up enough numbers and momentum to get developer support and make your products as ubiquitous as you can, you can hold off latecomers and win the battle for that generation of product. Xbox 360 defeats PS3 with the same battle plan.

 

Saying that, I think Galaxy S III is more to do with having Android market sewn up by Samsung rather thank taking on iPhone. Fragmentations and oversupply degenerated into this Android Civil War. Samsung might want to end this war, ends the fragmentations that slow the platform donw and make Samsung's branch the universal standard for Android platform. The new generation of Galaxy phones might be able to do it.

 

So if Galaxy III is enough to make Samsung the REAL standard bearer of Android platform and not just de facto one Galaxy II is today. Then this phone has done its job.

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I think you're in the wrong place. This thread is about the Galaxy S III. And I was referring to the recent article bragging about Samsung's preorders for the S III.
Furthermore, even for the S II, where are the sales figures? Samsung doesn't publish them.

It's bloody hard to get the real numbers since Samsung stick to the wholesale model. Handsets left the factory can remain in markets and stockrooms for years.

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I don't know why people are saying is is ugly. In reality, how radically different can you design a phone? They are all going to be rectangular and have a screen.

 

Yes, that's why the iPhone looked so much like any other phone when it was released in 2007.

 

(if you don't get that this is sarcasm then you have no right to be on any Apple forum)

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I think you're in the wrong place. This thread is about the Galaxy S III. And I was referring to the recent article bragging about Samsung's preorders for the S III.
Furthermore, even for the S II, where are the sales figures? Samsung doesn't publish them.

From the article : the Galaxy S II, which reached 20 million sales worldwide. They do publish the numbers.

The S III had 9 million preorders from carriers, at least according to several sources.
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...Where as other manufacturers (Samsung) have to install tons of GHz and GB to make up for losses in firmware and software that is not their own, Apple has the same answer as it had then: they build both hardware and software and the result is a highly integrated product that seamlessly fits in Apples existing ecosystem. This is what is important for me. 

 

Samsung builds hardware components for both its own and Apple's devices. Why would you say that Samsung doesn't use its own hardware and Apple does? From what I remember about Apple's suppliers, it seems that the exact opposite is true.

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Samsung builds hardware components for both its own and Apple's devices. Why would you say that Samsung doesn't use its own hardware and Apple does? From what I remember about Apple's suppliers, it seems that the exact opposite is true.

 

Hmmm... I didn't read that statement the same way that you did.

 

Try a re-read.

 

[ie. - Apple doesn't just build its own hardware, it also creates its own software that is tightly integrated with the hardware whereas Samsung only builds its own hardware that must be amped up in order to accommodate another company's software]

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Hmmm... I didn't read that statement the same way that you did.

 

Try a re-read.

You seem to interpret "hardware" as the finished product. If that was indeed the intended meaning, then it's nonsense -- both Apple and Samsung build their own finished products. The mention of 'firmware' suggested to me that Roos24 meant "the hardware components".

 

Regarding software, Samsung has the entire code of Android for months to tweak before a release. It's not like they install a build directly from Google. It's silly to expect that they don't match the software to their hardware.

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That was then, this is now.

 

What magical, mystical force is stopping innovation now?

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That was then, this is now. Yeah, the iPhone changed everything in 2007, but in 2012 due to all phones being as thin as possible and losing physical KB's, there really is not a whole lot to differentiate them anymore besides screen size, corners, and the back in terms of looks. .. and a bunch of other stuff that has no relation to the central argument...

 

Yeah... Nokia's phones look so much like Apple's phones... oh, wait.

 

Wait until October, you'll get your answer then.

 

[one's own lack of imagination should not color the innovation of others]


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It's actually even more subtle than that. It's 'preorders', not sales. Preorders can be canceled. Furthermore, think about Sprint's decision to purchase 20 M iPhones over 4 years. The way Samsung is tallying things, that would have counted as a 20 M unit sales day since Sprint agreed to buy them at some time in the future.
With any of the Android numbers, there's far too much obfuscation going on. Let's wait for real sales figures.

If Apple was to claim they have 20million preorders for the 6th generation iPhone you would believe it in a heartbeat. Why is it so hard to believe samsung can have a successful product or rather why is it that apple is the only company that can have a successful product. This idea that only apple can be good and all other companies that compete with them are liars con-artiest, evil and should be shut down. Apple is not the only good company and there is plenty of room for more then one successful company.

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You seem to interpret "hardware" as the finished product. If that was indeed the intended meaning, then it's nonsense -- both Apple and Samsung build their own finished products. The mention of 'firmware' suggested to me that Roos24 meant "the hardware components".

 

Regarding software, Samsung has the entire code of Android for months to tweak before a release. It's not like they install a build directly from Google. It's silly to expect that they don't match the software to their hardware.

 

 

I guess "install tons of GHz and GB" means something different to you than it does me.

 

As far as matching hardware to software... yes, Samsung's efforts are just as tightly integrated as iOS is to Apple's phones. (slaps forehead)

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I guess "install tons of GHz and GB" means something different to you than it does me.

 

I did not comment on this part previously, so I don't see why you think I misunderstood it.

 

Improved specifications are most welcome. I am sure that the next iPhone will have a faster CPU and more memory as well.

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I did not comment on this part previously, so I don't see why you think I misunderstood it.

 

Improved specifications are most welcome. I am sure that the next iPhone will have a faster CPU and more memory as well.

 

****... you're losing me now, buddy.

 

You stated that you thought Roos was saying that Samsung doesn't use its own hardware. That statement alone told me that Samsung installs its own stuff... nowhere in his entire statement did I see any mention of any other companies other than Samsung and Apple.

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Nothing and I would love to see something truly revolutionary like the iPhone was back in 2007 and completely blow me away. I am not against innovation at all. It just seems to me that Apple tends to be revolutionary then very incrementally evolutionary in subsequent models. That is understandable, but the trend now seems to be to make it is thin as possible, preserve or increase battery life which is a great thing, improve screen resolution,  on Android phones at leas make the screens as large as is practicable. No doubt Siri was an innovation and I enjoy using it. I look forward to more innovations to come in iOS 6. But in terms of hardware, it is going to be very difficult for Apple to blow the competitors out of the water the same way they did in 2007 again. Unless they have some secret hologram project, or 3D projector type of technology. The original iPhone in 2007 made those Palm, Windows, and Blackberry phones look like antique relics and they held that lead until around 2010. As much as I like my iPhone 4s, I don't think it is significantly better than a Samsung SII or HTC One X. But that's OK, Apple doesn't have to completely reinvent the wheel every 5 years, they just need to keep adding enough new features and value to keep growing sales. But I doubt you will ever see as large a gap between an iPhone and the competition as you did in 2007 ever again. 

 

All I can say is... keep watching.

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Also in Frankfurt some 100 people were in the queue this morning when the Deutsche Telekom shop on the city's busiest shopping street The Zeil opened.

"That's about the same as when the latest iPhone went on sale," said 21-year old Steven Barth, who was taking orders at the shop. "I think our publicity campaign also helps. We are giving away about a hundred Galaxys today, in this shop."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/29/us-samsung-galaxy-idUSBRE84S02J20120529

 

 

I love this! they got 100 customers to line up to get the Galaxy S III, and all they had to do was...give away 100 phones.  Please, someone tell me the next time Apple launches a flagship smartphone by giving away free phones - I will be in that line!

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It looks like Samsung is starting the old specs game again, and unfortunately, people are sensitive for that. I remember well when in the '90's Apple used PowerPC chips with much lower frequencies than most PCs with Intel chips, yet the Apple computers were as powerful as the PCs.

I remember the 80's where everyone said Apple screens are small. Then other companies slowly started to state their VIS instead of the meaningless 'screen diagonal'
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Referring to something like this, I suppose: http://www.natureandmore.com/products/apple

Thanks for the link; blackberries is also interesting, albeit a bit short:
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Improved specifications are most welcome. I am sure that the next iPhone will have a faster CPU and more memory as well.

Even analysts are sure it will be released later this year¡
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…disappointed too many times the last few years with minor updates.

 

Enlighten us on how the iPhone 4S was a "minor update".

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Enlighten us on how the iPhone 4S was a "minor update".

 

Forget the 4S... how was the 4 a minor update.

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Originally Posted by gwmac View Post [a bunch more stuff not pertinent to the central argument...] But since you mentioned Nokia, you made my point. Besides being blue, is it really that different from an iPhone or Android phone? It is thin and rectangular. 5 years ago it was extremely easy to tell phones apart. You still can today, but once they are in a case which most are, it gets a lot more difficult if the screens are similar in size and you can't see the OS it is running.

 

 

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Besides the fact that you keep putting too much filler into your central argument...

 

From the above comment I can see that you are design challenged.

 

No. use. continuing.

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