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A new report has pegged a specific date for the anticipated launch of Microsoft Word for Apple's iPad: Nov. 10, 2012.

The date was reported on Thursday by The Daily, which said that the development team at Microsoft finished work on the project last month. The design team responsible for Office on iPad was also said to have wrapped their work soon after.

"The app is now in the hands of a usability team that appraises software that utilizes the Metro design language for 'Metro compliance' and suggests changes as needed," reporter Matt Hickey wrote. "When approved by the team, the app likely will go to Apple for app store approval, which could take a couple of weeks."

While development of the application is apparently near finished, Thursday's report did not give any indication as to why Microsoft will wait more than five months to release the application on Nov. 10. The story corroborates with a report from last week that claimed Microsoft's industry leading productivity suite will be coming to the iPad and Android-based tablets in November.

Word first surfaced late last year that Microsoft was working on an iOS version of its Office suite. It was also said that the Redmond, Wash., software company planned to release an updated version of Office for Mac on Apple's digital distribution Mac App Store.

The Daily first shared what was said to be a picture of Office for iPad in action in February. However, Microsoft quickly responded to the report and portrayed it as "based on inaccurate rumors and speculation."

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AppleInsider also learned last week that Microsoft is also working on a new native iOS application for Outlook Web App, called "OWA Mobile Client for iOS," that will offer compatibility with Exchange 2012 mailboxes. It, along with a new version of the Lync application for iOS, will reportedly feature Microsoft's Metro interface, just like Office for iPad is expected to do.

Earlier reports claimed that Office for iPad will allow users to create and edit Word, Excel and PowerPoint files. AppleInsider was told last week that Office for iPad will not include dedicated Outlook functionality, as that ability will apparently be restricted to the forthcoming OWA Mobile Client application.
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While development of the application is apparently near finished, Thursday's report did not give any indication as to why Microsoft will wait more than five months to release the application on Nov. 10.

Microsoft doesn't want to Apple to have too much of a market advantage, they'll wait till the Android version is completed. Moreover, just like Office for the Mac I expect Office for iOS to be just as pathetic.

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Microsoft doesn't want to Apple to have too much of a market advantage, they'll wait till the Android version is completed.

Not Android (there is no strong Android tablet market). I would expect them to wait until Windows 8 is released.

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I am wondering if the outlook client would be enough to entice me to drop Apple's mail program on my phone.  The mail app works fine for me.  

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Simple. They want enterprise to buy Windows 8 tablets, so can't release it until Windows 8 is launched.

Publishing it now would give sell even more millions of iPads to businesses who were on the edge, and further cement its place as the default tablet to buy.
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Publishing it now would give sell even more millions of iPads to businesses who were on the edge, and further cement its place as the default tablet to buy.

 

You say that as though people are actually going to buy Windows 8 tablets at all… lol.gif

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I am wondering if the outlook client would be enough to entice me to drop Apple's mail program on my phone.  The mail app works fine for me.  

If they used a multi-pane format that allowed you to check your calendar while replying to email (I know iOS already has a pop-up module that does a minimal form of that), integrated address book subscriptions in an easy way (I find a lot of iOS users can't figure out how to enable), allowed group editing and emailing (completely absent in iOS afaik), and gave it a much more robust feature set (integrate dropbox, photo, and document access from the mail app) I can see it as being really killer.
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Will it include MS Access?

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You say that as though people are actually going to buy Windows 8 tablets at all… lol.gif

For free Office, and the comfort of knowing you're not making a decision that could get you fired (safety in legacy), I unfortunately know quite a few that would...
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I agree with all above post saying the wait is for Windows 8, in the hope of selling tablets running windows. Office is really the only thing Microsoft has going for it now, I much prefer it to iWork. The dev preview of windows 8 crashed consistently so I didn't get much of a chance to use it but the metro UI is one of the ugliest UIs i have ever seen

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Microsoft doesn't want to Apple to have too much of a market advantage, they'll wait till the Android version is completed. Moreover, just like Office for the Mac I expect Office for iOS to be just as pathetic.

All in all, though both kinda suck, I prefer Word for Mac to Windows Word....

 

In any case, I can't be stuck in a "nnnnn.pages" world that forces me to "export" extra copies of every file I want to share with 98% of the computing universe.  Apple's design decision not to allow simple saving into doc and docx will keep it a niche product forever.  See Memory Stick, Atracs, and BetaMax, and about a zillion other proprietary dead or dying branches of tech.  Even Open Office and WordPerfect allow default saving into those formats.   And I've never heard a cogent explanation of how .pages is a "superior format" in any meaningful way.

 

The same is true of the rest of the iWork suite, but at least I SHOW my Keynotes rather than share them, so I do use that (better than PowerPoint) program.

 

Office for Mac is a nice little continuing profit center for MS - even if was kept around back in the day to help MS avoid anti-trust prosecution - and with the anemia of their own tablet share they stand to benefit more from releasing the best iPad program they can.  So as long as docx remains the lingua franca of word processing, it's to their advantage, especially as Apple is coming to dominate this new frontier of computing which will become more and more consumers' main machine - and, as is well-documented, iPad penetration into the F1000 market is increasing by leaps and bounds - and all those users need native Office compatibility.

 

I've also read that as MS sifts the tea leaves, they're realizing that cross-platform and net software may have to become a bigger part of their strategy.  And everyone knows Mac users buy and upgrade their software more regularly than Windows or Android users.  

So, no, I don't believe any delay is so that they can also get it on the smattering of Android tabs. (For one thing MS and Apple are practically cozy with each other of late compared to either company's current relationships with Google.) 

 

Seems more likely that they want to get it as right as possible out of the gate.  A botched release would (could) be a strategic misstep which I believe they strongly want to avoid before another company releases an Office work-alike that could displace them in this space.  Though they might be waiting until their RT tabs are at least released......


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For free Office, and the comfort of knowing you're not making a decision that could get you fired (safety in legacy), I unfortunately know quite a few that would...


Free Office that won't be compatible with proper computers, you mean.

 

And your company has no right to tell you what kind of tablet you buy for personal use. If you're given one by them, that's something else entirely.

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PowerPoint for iPod touch can be the ultimate presentation tool if coupled with a Bluetooth remote like the Bluetooth version of the current PR-US2 Keyspan Wireless Presentation Remote

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A new report has pegged a specific date for the anticipated launch of Microsoft Word for Apple's iPad: Nov. 10, 2012.
The date was reported on Thursday by The Daily, which said that the development team at Microsoft finished work on the project last month. The design team responsible for Office on iPad was also said to have wrapped their work soon after. ...
 

 

I just flat out do not believe this.  

 

It won't be "Office for iPad" it will be an app that "let's you access Office on the iPad."  Which is not even close to the same thing. 

 

For starters, you cannot do suites of apps on iOS.  It's impossible.  

Secondly, it's taken Apple's designers, (who obviously have a much better knowledge of iOS and it's internals and a long head start), years to get even 90% functionality out of their desktop productivity apps when moving them to iOS.  Apple's designers are also arguably far better at their job and obviously more talented that the people that design Office, even Office for Mac.  

 

Finally, most people who aren't business users (i.e. normal consumers), don't actually want "Office for iPad."  What they want is Word for iPad, and by that I mean a native, iOS Word app that's simple and easy to use. 

 

This will be some f*cked up Metro looking thing that links to Office on the Web, almost for certain. You will probably have to pay a monthly fee for access.

 

Big Deal. 


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PowerPoint for iPod touch can be the ultimate presentation tool if coupled with a Bluetooth remote like the Bluetooth version of the current PR-US2 Keyspan Wireless Presentation Remote

The presentation in your pocket. Always.

 

Keynote is better than Powerpoint on all platforms.  All surveys of users always agree on this.  

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Microsoft doesn't want to Apple to have too much of a market advantage, they'll wait till the Android version is completed. Moreover, just like Office for the Mac I expect Office for iOS to be just as pathetic.

 

Office for Mac is generally reviewed as being much easier to use and more stable overall than Office for Windows. 

 

 

Your pathetic political link in your sig outs you as a contrarian though, so we should probably all believe the reverse of what you say anyway.  :)

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With iWork apps dominating iOS and the iPad dominating the tablet market, the only way Microsoft can keep its Office Suite relevant in the post-PC era is to have Office available for the dominant platform...  and now they get to pay Apple 30% per pop.

 

One thing Microsoft needs to do, though, is work on security and stability.  Office gets updated way too often versus iWork.  People will get sick of being prompted for lengthy update downloads.

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Not Android (there is no strong Android tablet market). I would expect them to wait until Windows 8 is released.

More specifically, Windows tablets, and Rt tablets. If its available for iOs and Android months earlier, it would significantly hurt the possibly of Microsoft tablet sales

It likely will anyway, but not as badly.
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I just flat out do not believe this.  

It won't be "Office for iPad" it will be an app that "let's you access Office on the iPad."  Which is not even close to the same thing. 

For starters, you cannot do suites of apps on iOS.  It's impossible.  
Secondly, it's taken Apple's designers, (who obviously have a much better knowledge of iOS and it's internals and a long head start), years to get even 90% functionality out of their desktop productivity apps when moving them to iOS.  Apple's designers are also arguably far better at their job and obviously more talented that the people that design Office, even Office for Mac.  

Finally, most people who aren't business users (i.e. normal consumers), don't actually want "Office for iPad."  What they want is Word for iPad, and by that I mean a native, iOS Word app that's simple and easy to use. 

This will be some f*cked up Metro looking thing that links to Office on the Web, almost for certain. You will probably have to pay a monthly fee for access.

Big Deal. 

Let's wait until it comes out before complaining about what it is and isn't, shall we?
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It will be native. It will use Metro interface which has already been tested and explored for Windows 8 tablets for a significant amount of time so going native app on the iPad has many problems already solved.

 

Microsoft is waiting for Windows 8 tablets to have a head start with Office as their killer app. Many, MANY people are interested in this. Microsoft Office documents are still standard exchange formats for most businesses. If someone uses their tablet at work or is thinking about it, they'll want it.

 

Since Microsoft has almost zero foothold in the mobile and tablet space with Windows and it knows there is a decent chance that Windows 8 will completely fail to change that, Office may be its only hope for a significant revenue stream to come from that space besides the license fees it already collects.

 

Because this is a long-term survival tactic, I expect Office for iPad to be better than average at worst.

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I just flat out do not believe this.  

 

It won't be "Office for iPad" it will be an app that "let's you access Office on the iPad."  Which is not even close to the same thing. 

 

For starters, you cannot do suites of apps on iOS.  It's impossible.  

Secondly, it's taken Apple's designers, (who obviously have a much better knowledge of iOS and it's internals and a long head start), years to get even 90% functionality out of their desktop productivity apps when moving them to iOS.  Apple's designers are also arguably far better at their job and obviously more talented that the people that design Office, even Office for Mac.  

 

Finally, most people who aren't business users (i.e. normal consumers), don't actually want "Office for iPad."  What they want is Word for iPad, and by that I mean a native, iOS Word app that's simple and easy to use. 

 

This will be some f*cked up Metro looking thing that links to Office on the Web, almost for certain. You will probably have to pay a monthly fee for access.

 

Big Deal. 

The pieces will in all likelihood be offered as separate apps just as Apple has done with iPhoto, Keynote, etc.  OneNote is already a separate app.  And it is an app, not a web link.  

There's no particular reason to believe MS can't and won't develop actual apps - so you're just spewing asterisked bile.  

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Microsoft doesn't want to Apple to have too much of a market advantage, they'll wait till the Android version is completed. Moreover, just like Office for the Mac I expect Office for iOS to be just as pathetic.

My opinion is that there will be no iOS version of Office. This rumored release will be Windows 8 only. Microsoft will then use it as a marketing sledgehammer to get their tablets into the Enterprise. There will be no iOS or Android versions of Office in my opinion.
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It'll be very good for iPad if MS do it properly. If iPad can be used to edit/create .docx and .xlsx files (which alas are universal and everywhere) that would be another big step towards the demise of PCs for lightweight personal computing. (Powerpoint sucks so much I just wish it would die). 

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The pieces will in all likelihood be offered as separate apps just as Apple has done with iPhoto, Keynote, etc.  OneNote is already a separate app.  And it is an app, not a web link.  

There's no particular reason to believe MS can't and won't develop actual apps - so you're just spewing asterisked bile.  

 

I could easily be wrong, but I don't see anything yet that would indicate you are right either.  

 

The one piece of evidence we have is the icon which says "Office" (I think this argues for my point of view as scant a piece of info as it is). 

 

There are also offerings of Office already in the app store which operate the way I describe. 

 

We shall see soon I guess, the icon could be fake or wrong. 

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Let's wait until it comes out before complaining about what it is and isn't, shall we?

 

Yes sir. :)

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It'll be very good for iPad if MS do it properly. If iPad can be used to edit/create .docx and .xlsx files (which alas are universal and everywhere) that would be another big step towards the demise of PCs for lightweight personal computing. (Powerpoint sucks so much I just wish it would die). 

 

I absolutely agree... but that's a pretty big "if" for the company that constantly f%#ks up first releases.

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Office for Mac is generally reviewed as being much easier to use and more stable overall than Office for Windows. 

 

 

Your pathetic political link in your sig outs you as a contrarian though, so we should probably all believe the reverse of what you say anyway.  :)

Fyi, Office for the Mac, which I use on a daily basis for work, is not better than the Windows version.

I also use Office for WP Metro OS, which will be very similar in the Windows RT version that is aimed at tablets and ultralight computers. This might be over your head I know, but thanks for your offensive comment, it reminded me of why I do not visit crumbling site anymore.  :)

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Fyi, Office for the Mac, which I use on a daily basis for work, is not better than the Windows version.
I also use Office for WP Metro OS, which will be very similar in the Windows RT version that is aimed at tablets and ultralight computers. This might be over your head I know, but thanks for your offensive comment, it reminded me of why I do not visit crumbling site anymore.  1smile.gif

One thing that I found to be very annoying about it is their registration, I suppose one would call it, DRM. I recently upgraded the startup drive in my Mac Pro to a 480GB SSD, and Office thinks it's on a new computer. So it wants me to go through the entire process again, as now none of my codes work anymore. That's a real pain! As I have over 130 programs in my machine, and none of the others have required that, I can only assume that this is a Microsoft thing. That's just being stupid and over zealous.
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No need for MS Office for iPad. Two apps for iPhone and iPad (Quickoffice and DocsToGo) allow you to view, edit, and create Word, Excel, and PowerPoint files. These are mature apps that have been around for quite awhile.
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It is interesting that MS is (again) in a cannibalization/divisional battle situation. Office is now a bigger revenue and profit maker than Windows per last couple of quarters. For the Office unit, it wants to maximize revenue/profit so put it on the obvious tablet market leader. Also, the free Office on WinRT must really chap their asses - they get bugger all revenue off the new platform and it will be hard for them to ever do so. Even if it was a $15-25 license fee it would be far less than on any other platform. Any more than that and it would add an unreasonable price hike to RT tabs. Win RT has few advantages over an iPad without free Office and the Windows boys and girls must be pushing hard for this to give them even a sniff of a chance. With no meaningful Metro apps, WinRT and its tablet adventures are dead.

 

I see this as war between Office and Windows units... hence the delay - give WinRT a little breathing room?
 

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It is interesting that MS is (again) in a cannibalization/divisional battle situation. Office is now a bigger revenue and profit maker than Windows per last couple of quarters. For the Office unit, it wants to maximize revenue/profit so put it on the obvious tablet market leader. Also, the free Office on WinRT must really chap their asses - they get bugger all revenue off the new platform and it will be hard for them to ever do so. Even if it was a $15-25 license fee it would be far less than on any other platform. Any more than that and it would add an unreasonable price hike to RT tabs. Win RT has few advantages over an iPad without free Office and the Windows boys and girls must be pushing hard for this to give them even a sniff of a chance. With no meaningful Metro apps, WinRT and its tablet adventures are dead.

 

I see this as war between Office and Windows units... hence the delay - give WinRT a little breathing room?
 

 

Internal turf battles at MS have long been part of its corp culture.  I do believe you're onto part of what's going on here....

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Fyi, Office for the Mac, which I use on a daily basis for work, is not better than the Windows version.

I also use Office for WP Metro OS, which will be very similar in the Windows RT version that is aimed at tablets and ultralight computers. This might be over your head I know, but thanks for your offensive comment, it reminded me of why I do not visit crumbling site anymore.  :)

 

Apologies for the (unintentional) "offensive comment," but it was made in response to what I felt was an "offensive link."  

 

Also, it's bad netiquette to put political links (or any links) in a sig, and pound for pound I think you seriously "out offensived" me by a long shot.  

 

In terms of the facts of our "debate," I stated some (admittedly unsourced) facts, you retorted with opinion.  Nuff said. 

 

Have a nice day. 

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...allowed group editing and emailing (completely absent in iOS afaik)...

It may be absent in iOS 5, but iOS is just around the corner. Let's see what it brings.

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Yes there are apps already available that allow viewing/editing of Office files.  However, there isn't one among them that can handle Tracked Changes (i.e., Markup), and Comments.  Without this ability in the Office knock-offs or Pages, I cannot use the iPad as I had intended for collaboration on documents.  While I'm no fan of Microsoft's software, if they are doing this I really hope their app fills this painful void on the iPad.

 

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They're going to release a version for Atari and Amiga at the same time, as well as a Red Hat Linux build that users will be able to compile themselves.

 

It will be free to anyone who has purchased or used any Microsoft product in the last 20 years.

 

Did I hear April fools?

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Look guys, whether one likes Office or not, it does have a 95% marketshare. None of the other options are viable, particularly open software, which people seem to especially hate.

So like it or not, if a useful version does appear on iOS and Android, that will help to sanctify their use in business. That's in addition to the wide business use the iPad has now. But it will allow more workers to dispense with their notebooks in favor of an iPad, possibly with some external keyboard for those times when they have to type a lot.

It's easy to dismiss Microsoft and Office, but we shouldn't.
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The question I have is about the Metro interface.  I thought developers had some UI guidelines they had to follow on iOS apps if they wanted Apple to accept them.  Wouldn't putting you right into a Microsoft Metro interface on your iPad/iPhone break the rules of the App Store? Wouldn't Apple reject something that clearly introduces a new UI? 

 

I'm not a developer so what do I know?  Just asking...

 
 
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Metro MDI for the iPad!

 

Seriously, aside from Excel which is just unbeatable, Office is awful to use. Functionality is great, but using it is painful. Don't get me started on tables in word! I couldn't imagine using it on the iPad, using 2010 on the Thinkpad or 2011 (since deleted) on the iMac have been frustrating to say the least.

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The question I have is about the Metro interface.  I thought developers had some UI guidelines they had to follow on iOS apps if they wanted Apple to accept them.  Wouldn't putting you right into a Microsoft Metro interface on your iPad/iPhone break the rules of the App Store? Wouldn't Apple reject something that clearly introduces a new UI? 

I'm not a developer so what do I know?  Just asking...



 


 




While I imagine we'd expect an actual Metro UI for Microsoft's own OS based devices, I suspect the description when referring to software available for iOS and Android is just a way of saying that this is tablet based software rather than desktop based software.
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