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A new video purports to show the front panel of Apple's next-generation iPhone, with space for a screen length appreciably greater than previous-generation models.

The video, posted on Thursday by Japanese site Macotakara, shows a component claimed to be the glass front panel from Apple's sixth-generation iPhone. When placed atop a current iPhone, the panel shows a component noticeably longer — long enough so that the hole for the forward-facing FaceTime camera sticks above the current iPhone.

The larger surface area for the screen on the glass panel suggests the new display would be long enough to pass the earpiece on current iPhone models.

The video even suggests that the next iPhone's screen could be even wider than current models, as the front glass panel features a slightly greater distance in that direction as well. However, the larger width of the new screen shown is not as pronounced as the greater length.

Like other claimed iPhone component leaks that have surfaced this week, the front panel pictured in the new video shows a relocated FaceTime camera placed above the earpiece, rather than to the left of it. That's consistent with a schematic picture that appeared online on Wednesday.

Rumors of an elongated form factor for the new iPhone were also bolstered with another alleged component that appeared on the Web on Tuesday, purporting to show the back panel of a prototype of Apple's next iPhone. That component featured a mostly aluminum back with what appears to be glass at the top and bottom of the device.



Earlier this month, The Wall Street Journal joined a number of mainstream media organizations in reporting that Apple has been ordering 4-inch screens for Apple's next iPhone. The new, larger displays are believed to be manufactured by LG Display, Sharp, and Japan Display Inc., and would be a departure from the 3.5-inch diagonal screen that has been found on every iPhone model to date.

While the iPhone's screen has remained the same size, many of Apple's Android-based competitors have adopted larger screen sizes. For example, Samsung's new flagship Galaxy S III smartphone, launched this week in Europe, features a 4.8-inch Super AMOLED display more than an inch larger than Apple's iPhone.
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From the video alone, it doesn't even look like glass. It looks like a thin film of acetate.

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post #3 of 81

Ok. It's 16:9 format now. A bit taller. Calm down people.

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It's weird to have this part, because last two iPhone models have the screen being part of the front glass. I think it's purposely leaked prototype by Apple.

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I don't believe Apple has ever purposefully leaked a y Apple hardware. That's just not their style.

It should be stated that prototype hardware has leaked months in advance of final release. Back in January 2011, there was a leak of an antenna band we thought was for the Verizon iPhone, but turned out to be from the iPhone 4S. This stuff is decided months in advance.
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I don't believe Apple has ever purposefully leaked a y Apple hardware. That's just not their style.

 

Sure they have. Best way to find the people who are leaking and fire/sue them.

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Sure they have. Best way to find the people who are leaking and fire/sue them.

Any examples?

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but how will our delicate thumbs reach the top corners???!?!?!?!?!??!!

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"However, the larger width of the new screen shown is not as pronounced as the greater length." not a square then? had money on a square.
 

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Any examples?

 

The mythical "iPhone 5" last year, for starters. Plenty of times before that, as well, for both computers and handhelds.

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Sure they have. Best way to find the people who are leaking and fire/sue them.

 

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Any examples?

 

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The mythical "iPhone 5" last year, for starters. Plenty of times before that, as well, for both computers and handhelds.

 

So basically september11th, he's throwing around words but ultimately saying no... He doesn't have any examples of Apple intentionally leaking a prototype with the purpose to expose an employee who is leaking it so they can fire them.

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I cry foul, that is just too tall.

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So basically september11th, he's throwing around words but ultimately saying no... He doesn't have any examples of Apple intentionally leaking a prototype with the purpose to expose an employee who is leaking it so they can fire them.

 

Other than, you know, the post you quoted where I did exactly that.

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The mythical "iPhone 5" last year, for starters. Plenty of times before that, as well, for both computers and handhelds.

 

Agreed.  From my understanding, they will put new employees or employees they are skeptical about on fake projects (or give them fake information) to test and see if they leak the information to the public.

 

Apple is a company of secrecy, they want to make sure their top people are the only ones that leak information to the public.

 

Apple tries to limit the number of people that have access to hardware at any given time (even internally).  I've heard that they will take new devices (like a MacMini) and enclose it in a wooden box, with all edges sealed with security tape.  And even if you got inside the box, it will just be the internal components, not the enclosure those components will be put into.

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If this is not a fake, then it would make the most idiotic design decision ever.

We don't want a bigger phone, we want a bigger screen.

So instead just of making bezels thinner they enlarged the whole thing. Absurd! 

 

Also the new design will not help much reducing screen to body % area.

iPhone 4s is already one of the worst in this department:

 

 

 

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I'd much rather have a wider 4 inch screen than some ugly only taller skinny 4 inch screen. 16:9 is annoying for my tastes.  If this is the final display design and after some hands on time in the fall I don't like it, my 4S will be the last iPhone I own until I get a display that I am comfortable with.  Knowing Apple's history, they won't change displays again for a few years.  Again, this is only after I get some hands on time with it.  Who knows, maybe I'll like it.  But at this point, hate it.    

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We don't want a bigger phone, we want a bigger screen.

 

Which is what this provides…

 

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So instead just of making bezels thinner they enlarged the whole thing. Absurd! 

 

Smaller bezels are absurd, or so I hear. You need to have an area of non-contact around the edges.

 

iPhone 4s is already one of the worst in this department:

 

And this device remedies that. I don't see your complaint in this regard.

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I don't believe Apple has ever purposefully leaked a y Apple hardware. That's just not their style.

Sure they haven't...

 

This looks just godawful, someone from apple surely must be leaking out a bs prototype they discarded so they can lower expectations and then "amaze" with the new phone, if not this then after lion and the atv interface they 've also lost their hardware mojo. 

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Which is what this provides…

 

Are you in a reality distortion field? 

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Ok. It's 16:9 format now. A bit taller. Calm down people.

Though the screen may change shape, I'm betting that the actual App real estate will be the same as the 3.5" displays, and developers won't have to change anything.  What we'll get is an actual dock for 'real' multi-tasking -- not the 'double-click-the-home-screen' thing.  So the iOS will be upgraded as well to give us a visual dock for running Apps, and/or maybe a place for customizable buttons.

 

That's my prediction.

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Also the new design will not help much reducing screen to body % area.

iPhone 4s is already one of the worst in this department:

Couldn't care less about it! Where do you see the problem? Is the phone going to be more useful?

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Though the screen may change shape, I'm betting that the actual App real estate will be the same as the 3.5" displays, and developers won't have to change anything.  What we'll get is an actual dock for 'real' multi-tasking -- not the 'double-click-the-home-screen' thing.  So the iOS will be upgraded as well to give us a visual dock for running Apps, and/or maybe a place for customizable buttons.

 

That's my prediction.

 -Carnac the Magnificent


Then the dock would have to disappear when using full screen apps where you might accidentally touch anything in the dock. Swiping up from the bottom to reveal such a dock would be much better IMO.

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Are you in a reality distortion field? 

 

You're right, my mistake. 4" is smaller than 3.5", of course.

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You're right, my mistake. 4" is smaller than 3.5", of course.

 

Yes, and the new panel is not bigger then the old. :)


Edited by jason98 - 5/31/12 at 1:42pm
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It would have been FAR better to reduce/eliminate the "home" button and/or the top part than extend the actual phone body to accommodate the screen size.

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Couldn't care less about it! Where do you see the problem? Is the phone going to be more useful?

 

If it is not a problem that let's get back to BBs. They are the best at using half of the panel area for a hardware keyboard.

IMHO the holy grail of smartphone design is the one that has screen occupying 90+% of the front area with the rest of the space left for camera, speaker, and proximity sensor and nothing else.

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I cry foul, that is just too tall.

From a usability perspective it probably would have been better the way it was, but from a marketing perspective they had to make it bigger. Once they decided that it was going to be bigger, they had the challenge of figuring out how to make it not suck for all involved, both end user and developer.

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Inspiration for the new iphone: 

 

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and of course:

 

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esp. that last one is going to come in very handy to apple after iphone's 5 release.

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If this is not a fake, then it would make the most idiotic design decision ever.

We don't want a bigger phone, we want a bigger screen.

So instead just of making bezels thinner they enlarged the whole thing. Absurd! 

 

Also the new design will not help much reducing screen to body % area.

iPhone 4s is already one of the worst in this department:

 

 

 

3z9eX-640x441.png

 

 

"'We' don't want a bigger phone, 'we' want a bigger screen."  Do you have a frog in your pocket?

 

Why is enlarging the "entire" phone absurd?  Are you suggesting any phone larger than the iPhone is absurd?

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Also the new design will not help much reducing screen to body % area.

 

 

 

I think you mean "reducing screen size as a percentage of body area," but if you watch the video, you can clearly see that this is exactly what they've done.  

 

The bottom and the top parts are both smaller that the current generation phones and those that went before them.  The screen is taller, but the phone is not as much taller overall as the increase in screen height would normally make it.  So the area of the screen relative to the front face should be bigger.  

 

I think the possibility that this is "fake" is so small at this point it's almost negligible, I do think this is an ugly design though and not nearly as good as the current one.  It's clear that most of the changes they've made are changes that help Apple and their manufacturing partners, not the end user.  This design looks to me like it will be easier and cheaper to manufacture as well as repair, when if you asked users they would ask for things like making it lighter, smaller, waterproof, drop-proof, scratch-proof etc. instead.  

 

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This is a bit off topic, but unless the mythical iTV is something really special, I think 2012 will probably go down as the year Apple "jumped the Shark" in product design.  It's not that this new iPhone is really that awful, but it's sorta awful and definitely not as good as last years design IMO.  And this is all just my opinion of course, and I'm no Jony Ive, but I have been to Industrial Design school and worked as a designer so at least in my own head I believe I know what I'm talking about to some degree. 

 

Another good indicator of a company that is losing it's focus is bad advertising.  The adverts often become stale and unexciting before the products start to be and this year's Apple ads are all boring, poorly executed and totally derivative if you ask me.  Beginning of the end, sky is falling etc. etc. 

 

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It would have been FAR better to reduce/eliminate the "home" button and/or the top part than extend the actual phone body to accommodate the screen size.

 

It looks to me like the did reduce both areas as much as they can.  

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"'We' don't want a bigger phone, 'we' want a bigger screen."  Do you have a frog in your pocket?

 

Why is enlarging the "entire" phone absurd?  Are you suggesting any phone larger than the iPhone is absurd?

 

Yes, that was exactly my point. With this design iPhone will be taller than Galaxy shovel-phones with substantially less screen area. What a shame. Just cannot stand it.

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Ok. It's 16:9 format now. A bit taller. Calm down people.

 

You were only the 2nd post.   Who exactly were you trying to calm down?   

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but how will our delicate thumbs reach the top corners???!?!?!?!?!??!!

 

Lucky for me, I've got manly thumbs.   

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but how will our delicate thumbs reach the top corners???!?!?!?!?!??!!


Grow bigger hands! XD
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"'We' don't want a bigger phone, 'we' want a bigger screen."  Do you have a frog in your pocket?

 

Why is enlarging the "entire" phone absurd?  Are you suggesting any phone larger than the iPhone is absurd?


No.  I believe that the suggest is that you can accomplish a larger screen without greatly increasing the size of the phone.  Sadly it appears that Apple has chosen to expand both the size of the screen and the phone. 

 

Look at most iPhones.  You unnecessarily have almost a full inch of wasted top and bottom space that could be screen.

 

Look at the INSANELY nice iPhone 5 mockups that were coming out before the 4S based off (false) info from case manufacturers.

That is the design they should be moving towards not the monstrosity that he been leaked (if true)

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Inspiration for the new iphone: 

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and of course:

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esp. that last one is going to come in very handy to apple after iphone's 5 release.


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Sure they have. Best way to find the people who are leaking and fire/sue them.

 

Everyone did notice the 3D barcode on the back of the glass panel, right (~36 sec. mark)? I'm quite certain it corresponds to a unique vendor, maybe even that guy over there sitting by the Future Cola machine, with the gray shirt and Air Jordans. Yea, him right there...

 

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Any examples?

 

Think Different...  Didn't they report on a product leaked or something?  While I don't know what happen to the leaker, Apple did go after Think Secret and the end resolution, the egomaniac Nick Ciarelli had to shut down his Think Different website!

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Everyone did notice the 3D barcode on the back of the glass panel, right? 

 

Exactly! I mentioned that over on 9to5, and someone was able to pull a partial scan from it.

 

Here's what they got:

 

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The first time, I got "661A08" and this meant nothing to me.  So then I tried again and got "421937043049614292006909454760952410" which is also meaningless to me.  I'm no expert on QR codes, but maybe someone here could decipher whether these numbers are garbage or if they are actually useful.

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