ITC judge invokes 'Cheech and Chong' test in Apple-Samsung case - Page 2

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Originally Posted by El Band 

 

The censorship on this board is worse than communist China.

I'm what you, El Band, would likely call an Apple fanboy, but still I do feel TS is a bit too much of an activist, rather than being an impartial "moderator."

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Originally Posted by Cpsro 
…I do feel TS is a bit too much of an activist, rather than being an impartial "moderator."

Am I supposed to like Apple less after having become a moderator on an Apple forum? 

Wow, that was one of my favorite Cheech and Chong sketches, I beleive (and I'm pulling from my drug addled memory) it was called Chekborneck, of the album Los Cochinos, famous for Sargent Stadanko, Basketball Jones, The Evelyn Woodhead Speed Reading Course and the Peter Rooter commercial (as well the Drive-In Shit where they saw the trailer for 'Buggery on the High Seas 'Fifty lashes! You ought to give him a hundred for what he did to me!) Good times, people good times...

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Originally Posted by El Band 

 

LOL Apple really does have rights to everything either square or rectangular.

Yeah, they definitely were obligated to make it with identical dimensions–exactly 7.6 inches square.

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Originally Posted by katastroff 

 

 

of course.

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil 

To add to that, since this seems to be a thread astonishingly free of anti-Apple trolls,

 

 

 

 

Guys do you know what makes those image comparisons biased? You're not even trying to look for similar or recent designs that preceded the iphone. At least whoever made them didn't try. Many of those preceded the initial iphone by 10 years or more. Some of them are closer to the Newton era. Note the old school nokias with protruding antennae and pre- Windows CE slabs (wasn't it called pen point?).

You know what would make this ITC case awesome? If Judge Pender brought in Cheech and Chong and had them test a fecal log.

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil 

 

Am I supposed to like Apple less after having become a moderator on an Apple forum? 

Maybe wear a different hat* while moderating and use your old standard (without the "moderator" tag) for passionate comments.

*hat = member name

Well members, this copycat caims again.  Getting bored really, just like my IPad which became an expensive toy for my kids.

Why you bother this much?  Without Samsung, you probably would not have been enjoying some of your beloved products which is boring and way passed by competitors in every aspects.

IMO, calling Samsung 'copycat' was one of the most stupid things to say by SJ. 

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil 

 

Am I supposed to like Apple less after having become a moderator on an Apple forum? 

I don't talk to everyone here but everyone I talk to that has been here for years and years like me has said (and I totally agree) that you have gone way far off the deep end these last weeks.  Melgross (also a moderator) used to freak out on people and cross the line once in a blue moon (we are all human after all), but he would then usually step back apologise and move on.  It's pretty clear that you're ruing the board for everyone however and everyone can see it (except perhaps you).  

You showboat and bully people around, and you clearly don't deserve to be a moderator.  I really just don't understand it because you're obviously smart and funny etc. and a few weeks ago I would have said I agree with almost everything you post, but ... As Cheech and Chong would say .... "you've changed man."  

So while you're thinking of banning me (if you even take a moment to think at all) and deleting this post so no-one knows what you did ... you might want to just own up to it and apologise, or at least lighten up and turn back into the good natured person you used to be before whomever peed in your breakfast cereal or whatever happened to make you like this. 

You'll probably take this as a personal attack for some reason, but I'm serious.  I don't dislike you at all and most people here probably don't either, but you should really, seriously take a look in the mirror.  

February 2006

April 2010

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Originally Posted by mercury99 

February 2006

 

 

 

April 2010

 

 

Got a shot of the 'interface' of your 'tablet'?

Although it's not the exact model, here's the back of this 'iPad look-a-like':

If anything, it demonstrates that Samsung could only stick a basic image viewer into that form factor at that time, whereas a few years later Apple stuck in a whole flippin' computer.

Here's what Samsung was putting out in tablet form just before the iPad came out. The Samsung Q1 Ultra:

And the specs:

Weighing in at 690g and measuring 23.9mm thick, the Q1 Ultra features a 7-inch widescreen LCD which displays graphics at a resolution of 1024×600 pixels, a Qwerty keyboard in the form of a split thumb pad, a 60GB hard drive, 1GB system memory, improved battery life of 3.5 hours and Windows Vista operating system.

Loaded with awesome Vista-ry goodness.

Check out that sexy stylus!

Myth busted.

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Originally Posted by Gazoobee 

 

I don't talk to everyone here but everyone I talk to that has been here for years and years like me has said (and I totally agree) that you have gone way far off the deep end these last weeks.  Melgross (also a moderator) used to freak out on people and cross the line once in a blue moon (we are all human after all), but he would then usually step back apologise and move on.  It's pretty clear that you're ruing the board for everyone however and everyone can see it (except perhaps you).  

 

You showboat and bully people around, and you clearly don't deserve to be a moderator.  I really just don't understand it because you're obviously smart and funny etc. and a few weeks ago I would have said I agree with almost everything you post, but ... As Cheech and Chong would say .... "you've changed man."  

 

So while you're thinking of banning me (if you even take a moment to think at all) and deleting this post so no-one knows what you did ... you might want to just own up to it and apologise, or at least lighten up and turn back into the good natured person you used to be before whomever peed in your breakfast cereal or whatever happened to make you like this. 

 

You'll probably take this as a personal attack for some reason, but I'm serious.  I don't dislike you at all and most people here probably don't either, but you should really, seriously take a look in the mirror.  

Gazoobee,

Everybody I know and talk to, including the guy who delivered our TV a couple of months ago, say that TS is an awesome guy who deserves a medal for self-restraint in not dealing with every single one of the attention-lacking, parent-love deficit fools that come here daily for their dose of personal worth.

Bugger.

It looks like my infinity friends cancel out your infinity friends.

Keep on moderating just the way you do, TS.

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Originally Posted by GTR 

 

Gazoobee,

 

Everybody I know and talk to, including the guy who delivered our TV a couple of months ago, say that TS is a awesome guy who deserves a medal for self-restraint in not dealing with every single one of the attention-lacking, parent-love deficit fools that come here daily for their dose of personal worth.

 

Bugger.

 

It looks like my infinity friends cancel out your infinity friends.

 

Keep on moderating just the way you do, TS.

"Keep on moderating just the way you do, TS."  Agreed.

I don't care to read posts by those who consistently post misinformation in order to distract from the discussion or denigrate Apple or Apple supporters.

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Originally Posted by MacBook Pro 

 

"Keep on moderating just the way you do, TS."  Agreed.

 

I don't care to read posts by those who consistently post misinformation in order to distract from the discussion or denigrate Apple or Apple supporters.

Hear, hear.

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Originally Posted by MacBook Pro 

denigrate Apple or Apple supporters.

Most of the denigration that occurs in this forum is leveled at those who say anything that suggests Apple might not be perfect in action, thought or deed.

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Originally Posted by jragosta 


You mis-spelled "Most of the denigration that occurs in this forum is leveled at those who fabricate complete lies and spend countless hours spreading FUD".

...and smell funny, too. ;-)

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Originally Posted by Gazoobee 
I don't talk to everyone here but everyone I talk to that has been here for years and years like me has said (and I totally agree) that you have gone way far off the deep end these last weeks.  Melgross (also a moderator) used to freak out on people and cross the line once in a blue moon (we are all human after all), but he would then usually step back apologise and move on.  It's pretty clear that you're ruing the board for everyone however and everyone can see it (except perhaps you).  

 

You showboat and bully people around, and you clearly don't deserve to be a moderator.  I really just don't understand it because you're obviously smart and funny etc. and a few weeks ago I would have said I agree with almost everything you post, but ... As Cheech and Chong would say .... "you've changed man."  

 

So while you're thinking of banning me (if you even take a moment to think at all) and deleting this post so no-one knows what you did ... you might want to just own up to it and apologise, or at least lighten up and turn back into the good natured person you used to be before whomever peed in your breakfast cereal or whatever happened to make you like this. 

 

You'll probably take this as a personal attack for some reason, but I'm serious.  I don't dislike you at all and most people here probably don't either, but you should really, seriously take a look in the mirror.  

It's clear you don't understand me, nor the things for which I stand, so I'll be happy to repeat them.

Moderation and personal beliefs, for me, only cross paths when I'm dealing with anti-Apple trolls. This is an Apple forum, and as such we're all going to have something of an Apple bias, I'd think. At the very least, an interest in the company, for better or for worse, and a desire to talk about it.

If you come on here for the sole purpose of demeaning or diminishing Apple, or spreading FUD about the company, well, we're gonna have a problem. There're plenty of anti-Apple forums out there, and there's no real reason for that kind of talk here (or lies anywhere, really), even if there weren't. So, if it's a blatant troll, I (and I'm sure others) will simply rebut their posts, pointing out the fallacies along the way, and go about our business. If they stick around doing the same thing, well, we'll get more forceful until eventually they're banned after becoming too much of a nuisance. But we (and when I say 'we', I mean users in general) generally poke a bit of fun with it as we do it.

There's nothing wrong with that, I don't think. Who's more foolish? The 'fool' that spends his time on a forum about a company or product he enjoys, or the fool who comes on the forum of a company or product he hates just to say bad things/lie about them?

Now. Me. I sort of don't allow the forum rules to apply to me. Meaning you can pretty much insult me or demean me all you want, and I'm totally cool with that (and a bunch of people who just had their hearts jump into their throats are settling back down now that they've realized I'm not a "bad cop on the loose"). Not gonna report you or delete your posts or ban you. That's disgusting behavior. Because of my position, people have the right to talk about me in whatever way they wish, I figure, you know? 

Now, if it's a wall of obscenities, I'd probably mention it to someone. No one wants to see just a wall of obscenities. But banning someone because they spoke ill of you as a moderator or you yourself (when you just happen to have moderator power)? I see that as grounds for instant, permanent banning. For ME. And they'd be reinstated, of course.

amoled/Tune/angler/MHD/iBanned/El Band was banned for being a troll. His five other accounts were banned for continuing the trolling, plus reregistering, which we don't allow. Pure and simple.

Now, impartiality. I love Apple. So sue me. I'm not going to be at my most impartial when discussing Apple, because that's not me. I'm not going to pretend I'm something I'm not if I have an opinion on a matter. I will, however, read, research, and discuss other opinions (and a fully anti-Apple side) with a sense of detachment and a mind open to their positions, if said position is presented politely and intelligently. Absolutely. If I'm wrong, I want to be corrected. If it's not a question of being wrong, it's a chance to improve my opinion. We all know trolling when we see it, and we know what isn't polite or intelligent.

 You'd see me be incredibly impartial talking about virtually everything that isn't Apple, particularly politics, but there's not much action in the AppleOutsider forum, and I don't go to PoliticalOutsider. You guys ever been there? They're sort of mean over there! 

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Originally Posted by bmason1270 
Really? Banned for that?

Banned for having six accounts. We don't allow multiple sign-ups. 

Banned also for being an anti-Apple troll in every account. We welcome all opinions, but you know exactly where the line is.

Please read the above for why that would be foolishness of the highest degree.

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Originally Posted by bmason1270 
You never stated the reason for his ban was multiple accounts. At face value it appeared that it was based on his statement, which was not inflammatory in the least.

I thought the listing of his previously banned aliases (and his corroboration thereof) was explanation enough. I apologize.

I don't have any issue with TS and his posts. He can be a bit blunt sometimes but who here isn't.

He and I seldom agree, at least in the public forum, but we've always respectfully disagreed. There's one or two here who seem unable to do that, and those are just as disruptive to the forum as any of the Android fans IMHO. There's room here for opposing viewpoints if it's done truthfully and without name-calling and other personal attacks. I agree with some forum memebers who feel there's too many new sign-ups who are here to mock Apple fans and nothing else. I wouldn't have too much patience with them either. Unfortunately, based on my experience at other forums, it's almost impossible to keep them from reappearing under a new name. Even blocking an IP addy doesn't keep a determined user out. 

I think TS does an admirable job considering what he has to deal with.

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Originally Posted by bmason1270 
But in all honesty, since your all so full of yourselves my post is wasted cause you don't/won't see it in yourselves.

Wait, all of us? I don't think the servers could handle that.

Pause while I pretend to realize that's the snarkiness he was talking about.

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Originally Posted by bmason1270 
A "moderator" would reply to my message, if at all with an objective statement along the lines of, "we do our best to promote on topic, civil discussion. In general, as moderators, we do our best to model the behavior that we expect of our forum members. As such we do our best to minimize pointless flame wars when we can and we do our best to remain objective/impartial when trying to either dissolve a flame war ourselves or avoiding one in the first place. We recognize that people will have varying opinions and those are supported and encouraged.

But your post was wasted because we're full of ourselves. I didn't figure you'd want an actual answer. Would you have accepted that answer had I (or anyone else) said the same?

If you'll notice, I did say as much earlier in the thread.

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Originally Posted by bmason1270 
You still continue to prove why you are a terrible moderator.

*ahem* "We recognize that people will have varying opinions and those are supported and encouraged."

Now come on. A perfectly good thread, derailed for 30 posts by a troll on his sixth account. You're doing exactly what he wants. Let's drop it. You want to further inform me of my inadequacies, I welcome PMs.

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Originally Posted by bmason1270 
And yes, had you shown any semblance of answering that way I would have accepted the answer. Why the eff do you think I wrote it?

 

You'll want to read this post again, then.

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Originally Posted by GTR 

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Keep on moderating just the way you do, TS.

This ^

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Originally Posted by hill60 

Hey look it's a new Mac Mini:-

 

http://www.engadget.com/photos/samsung-chromebox-2012-review/#5051182

 

Samsung imitating, nah I just don't see it.

 

LOL

Good swap meet quality LOL and no its not a rectangle to the kids that said this, its a square.  And further more, it had the same dimensions and bottom, but cheap ass swap meet silver plastic. 

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Originally Posted by El Band 

 

You left out Amoled. It's fun terrorizing you with the truth.

Truth? More like ridiculous sophisms. 

Are you guys kidding me? Apple didn't invent either the USB or multipin connectors used by the Samsung phone. Using commodity interconnects is a good idea, and ought not be considered patentable. Imagine if every other device in your home had proprietary connectors...
 

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Originally Posted by GTR 

 

Nice try, but that's a photo frame, you schmuck!

 

And it's off.

 

[snip]

 

Myth busted.

Apple only claimed Samsung "slavishly copied" .. their design patents... Not technical patents. Where was Apple's photoframe in 2006?

Clearly "prior art" here. If somebody copied the design, it is Apple.

Thus Apple stole their design for the iPad from Samsung.

Myth busted.

We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas.
~ Steve Jobs