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Apple partner Corning on Monday announced its new Willow Glass, an ultra-slim glass that is also flexible, allowing for companies to make devices with new shapes.

Corning's new Willow Glass was unveiled at the Display Week tradeshow in Boston, Mass., put on by the Society for Information Display. The company said the new material could "revolutionize the shape and form" of next-gen electronic devices.

"Corning Gorilla Glass will enable thin, light and cost-efficient applications including today's slim displays and smart surfaces of the future," the company said. "The thinness, strength, and flexibility of the glass has the potential to enable displays to be 'wrapped' around a device or structure."

The new Willow Glass can withstand temperatures up to 500 degrees Celsius, and will enable manufacturers to pursue high-temperature roll-to-roll processes, similar to how newsprint is made.

Corning's Gorilla Glass will support thinner backplanes and color filters for both OLED and LCD displays. It can be used in smartphones, tablets and notebook computers.

"Corning Willow Glass provides the substrate performance to maintain device quality in a thin and light form factor,? said Dr. Dipak Chowdhury, division vice president and Willow Glass program director. "Currently manufacturing in a sheet-to-sheet process, we expect Corning Willow Glass to eventually allow customers to switch to high-throughput, efficient roll-to-roll processing, a long-awaited industry milestone."

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Last month, one report claimed that Apple had shown interest in flexible OLED displays from Samsung. Those kinds of displays, combined with Corning's new Willow Glass, would allow electronics makers to create touchscreen devices with more unique curved surfaces.

Earlier this year at the Consumer Electronics Show, Corning announced its Gorilla Glass 2, which is just 0.8 millimeters thick and can withstand 121 pounds of pressure. Even though the new Gorilla Glass is up to 20 percent thinner than its predecessor, it maintains the same levels of strength and durability.

Apple doesn't typically publicly name its component suppliers, but for years the company was presumed to be using Corning's Gorilla Glass for products like the iPhone and iPad. But earlier this year, Apple confirmed that Corning is indeed a supplier, and Gorilla Glass built in Kentucky is found on its portable devices.
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Moore's Law applied to glass?!?

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When are we going to see flexible iPhone from Apple? Likely never :( 

They won't be able to make the Home button flexible.

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When are we going to see flexible iPhone from Apple? Likely never 1frown.gif 
They won't be able to make the Home button flexible.

A flexible display allows vendors to make curved surfaces but you still have the guts of the device not being bendable.

On top of that, why would you need an iPhone that bends? I can't think of a case that would give the user an advantage.

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On top of that, why would you need an iPhone that bends? I can't think of a case that would give the user an advantage.

 

Tactile feedback. So when the screen shows a sack of rice, a soft plastic cup with pudding inside, a breast, or any fabric, you can touch it and have the same thing happen to your phone as would the real object when you interact with it.

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Moore's Law applied to glass?!?

 

No. It's called the age of Material Science Engineering and EE has nothing to do with it.

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I'm not too into the glass being bendable on an iPhone/iPad screen.  I like the rigid feel of glass.  If it bends as I push my finger on it, it will give it that plasticky feeling.  Leave that stuff to Android products please.

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This sounds good for a potential Apple headset.

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Moore's Law applied to glass?!?
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No. It's called the age of Material Science Engineering and EE has nothing to do with it.

Carroll's Law?
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I'm not too into the glass being bendable on an iPhone/iPad screen.  I like the rigid feel of glass.  If it bends as I push my finger on it, it will give it that plasticky feeling.  Leave that stuff to Android products please.

Devices you can strap on your wrist/arm or leg (pilot board). Use it as a facemask for all-round augmented reality display. Get in your car, unwrap it slightly, mount it above your dash and it becomes the viewscreen/customizable HUD in your car. Could lead to a whole new type of device/experience.

I, for one, welcome our new flexible overlords.
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When are we going to see flexible iPhone from Apple? Likely never :( 

They won't be able to make the Home button flexible.

who says they will keep the home button. 

 

that said I agree that a flexible iPhone seems very unlikely. But Apple might still use these parts of the displays are crisp with great color and low battery use and the glass is shatter and scratch proof etc. and of course if the price is right

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I don't think they are going to make iPads or iPhones with a curved screen.

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A surface you control in a million ways by touch—like iOS and the systems “inspired” by iOS—works best with a perfect flat surface. Just like it’s easier to write on a desk than a jar. If a smartphone tries a curved screen as a gimmick, stay away.

 

But some special-use devices will have some new styling options thanks to this. It’s certainly impressive even if I don’t see it helping Apple much.

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Obviously we wont be seeing any bendable iPhones, but does flexible = break resistant?

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On top of that, why would you need an iPhone that bends? I can't think of a case that would give the user an advantage.

 

Tactile feedback. So when the screen shows a sack of rice, a soft plastic cup with pudding inside, a breast, or any fabric, you can touch it and have the same thing happen to your phone as would the real object when you interact with it.

So the phone is going to slap you in the face?

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No need for the iPhone hardware to slap you for that "grope".. Siri will respond just fine on her own.
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So the phone is going to slap you in the face?

I feel like I'm getting slapped in the face every time I use an Android phone.

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I feel like I'm getting slapped in the face every time I use an Android phone.

 

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Obviously we wont be seeing any bendable iPhones, but does flexible = break resistant?

 

Flexible does indeed imply "break resistant" but odds are you are thinking of the shattering effect which this would not be immune to.  

The odds are this screen is actually more likely to break (in the "screen shattering" sense) than the current iPhone screen is. The very fact that they don't mention it's shatter resistance is a sure indicator.  

 

I find it amusing myself that so many many people criticise Apple for using glass screens and bitch about the shattering thing but the minute there is mention of bendy glass, they are all like "I need five devices made of this right now and here's my list."  Stupid.  

 

Also amusing that so many people are unaware of and don't even bother to think about the difference between "flexible" and "I can fold it up like origami!"  The iPhone screen is already almost as flexible as this glass is for instance and while we have extremely bendable, even rollable OLED screens already, there are none that can actually fold and not leave a mark or have a seam.  People just see the "flexible" word and assume all their craziest science eviction dreams are about to come true.  

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Tactile feedback. So when the screen shows a sack of rice, a soft plastic cup with pudding inside, a breast, or any fabric, you can touch it and have the same thing happen to your phone as would the real object when you interact with it.

 

A breast, you say?

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Apple doesn't typically publicly name its component suppliers, but for years the company was presumed to be using Corning's Gorilla Glass for products like the iPhone and iPad. But earlier this year, Apple confirmed that Corning is indeed a supplier, and Gorilla Glass built in Kentucky is found on its portable devices.

Come on, everyone knows the entire Apple product line and their components are made in China. That's what the media says and you always trust the media.

 

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I wonder if George Costanza was the hand model for that image?

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Not sure if I care for the curved glass or even curved screen. Too many issues - such has color and image distortion, hard to use the visual keyboard (even with a slight curve). I am sure it might have some application, but I don't think phone will be the one.

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Devices you can strap on your wrist/arm or leg (pilot board). Use it as a facemask for all-round augmented reality display. Get in your car, unwrap it slightly, mount it above your dash and it becomes the viewscreen/customizable HUD in your car. Could lead to a whole new type of device/experience.
I, for one, welcome our new flexible overlords.

 

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A surface you control in a million ways by touch—like iOS and the systems “inspired” by iOS—works best with a perfect flat surface. Just like it’s easier to write on a desk than a jar. If a smartphone tries a curved screen as a gimmick, stay away.

 

But some special-use devices will have some new styling options thanks to this. It’s certainly impressive even if I don’t see it helping Apple much.

 

The military is likely to go ga-ga over some of the "in the field" possibilities.....  ...and then of course, there's "Google Glasses," meaning new opportunities for "geek chic."

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This sounds good for a potential Apple headset.

I guess you meant Apple iGlasses to compete against Google's Project Glass...

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A flexible display allows vendors to make curved surfaces but you still have the guts of the device not being bendable.
On top of that, why would you need an iPhone that bends? I can't think of a case that would give the user an advantage.

It Is a Big advantage for the user as it means a device can be more break resistant. However I have to suggest that you need to think in the way of new device that would leverage the technology.

If you are like me and are expecting the number of iOS devices to increase, materials like this just give Apple more options in design. One cool concept would be a 36" iMac with wrap around screen. Think about some of the more interesting Sci-Fi films realized recently. This of course is not an iOS device but demonstrates just one possibility.
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No. It's called the age of Material Science Engineering and EE has nothing to do with it.

 

Robot Law?!?

 

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It Is a Big advantage for the user as it means a device can be more break resistant. However I have to suggest that you need to think in the way of new device that would leverage the technology.
If you are like me and are expecting the number of iOS devices to increase, materials like this just give Apple more options in design. One cool concept would be a 36" iMac with wrap around screen. Think about some of the more interesting Sci-Fi films realized recently. This of course is not an iOS device but demonstrates just one possibility.

Oh sure, a curve ATD or iMac display was the first thing that came to mind, then glasses if they can work work to use transparent display tech (like was shown at CES), then contact lenses (let's ignore how they are powered or get data). My comment was about the device being bendable, not simply about a display that is more resilient to warping.

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Robot Law?!?

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Devices you can strap on your wrist/arm or leg (pilot board). Use it as a facemask for all-round augmented reality display. Get in your car, unwrap it slightly, mount it above your dash and it becomes the viewscreen/customizable HUD in your car. Could lead to a whole new type of device/experience.
I, for one, welcome our new flexible overlords.

Something tells me that the notion of taking it off your wrist etc is wrong. But yes they could be molded to the back side of the car window or molded into a HUD style pair of shades etc.

Or when the tech gets small enough the idea of a Tony Starck style transparent computer display or yes video phone will be closer to real

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Corning on Monday announced its new Willow Glass,
Corning's new Willow Glass
"Corning Gorilla Glass
The new Willow Glass
Corning's Gorilla Glass
"Corning Willow GlassCorning's new Willow GlassCorning announced its Gorilla Glass 2,
Even though the new Gorilla Glass is up to 20 percent thinner
Corning's Gorilla GlassCorning is indeed a supplier, and Gorilla Glass

Is it Willow Glass or Gorilla Glass?
Or is Willow Glass simply a type of Gorilla Glass?

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On top of that, why would you need an iPhone that bends? I can't think of a case that would give the user an advantage.

Obviously, for making calls around corners...

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Oh sure, a curve ATD or iMac display was the first thing that came to mind, then glasses if they can work work to use transparent display tech (like was shown at CES), then contact lenses (let's ignore how they are powered or get data). My comment was about the device being bendable, not simply about a display that is more resilient to warping.

The first law of robotics is: you do not talk about robot law!

 

Wild West Law?!?

 

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Wild West Law?!?

 

Cole's Law?!

 

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Air bag glass / touch screen eventually becoming the norm for iDevices to protect them from display damage.

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Cole's Law?

Jude Law? (Gotta keep it on androids)

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Robot Law?!?

 

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That should be an animated gif with the eyes moving around...

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Personally I find the iPhone 4S kinda rigid, especially when I have to hide it in my anus.

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Yes AppleInsider has complete idiots writing copy for them. Apparently the staff at AppleInsider has caught on to the concept of an editor, if that doesn't float their boat maybe peer review before publishing.

Thankfully when things like this come out you have the whole WWW to get to the bottom of things.
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Corning on Monday announced its new Willow Glass,

Corning's new Willow Glass

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The new Willow Glass

Corning's Gorilla Glass

"Corning Willow GlassCorning's new Willow GlassCorning announced its Gorilla Glass 2,
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Corning's Gorilla GlassCorning is indeed a supplier, and Gorilla Glass
Is it Willow Glass or Gorilla Glass?

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Jude Law? (Gotta keep it on androids)
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Not to pull the train off the tracks but what movie is that from?
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