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post #81 of 89
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Originally Posted by macarena View Post

Most (or should I say all) of the posters here are missing one important factor.

 

Apple might not have Maps as good as what Google has - it might not have StreetView coverage for as many cities worldwide as Google has - but that is besides the point. The point is, can Apple provide a solution that is many times better than the current Maps application on the iPhone? The answer to that is a resounding YES.

 

Maps on the iPhone is pathetic. There are no turn by turn directions. There is no Street View. There is no traffic capability. There is very basic functionality to do Geotagging, etc - you can at best bookmark locations on your device - cannot make your locations publicly available. Even simple functionality like getting GPS coordinates of any location is ridiculously complex in the current Maps app.

 

This is the low hurdle that Apple needs to cross - so obviously it is guaranteed that Apple will cross that hurdle easily. As for the Maps data itself, Open Street Map is for the most part a money issue, not a technology issue. With the support of Apple, it is very likely that OSM can improve the quality and accuracy of the maps tremendously.

 

Google is trying to steal Apple's thunder by announcing 3D Maps on June 6th - but really this does not matter. Apple is in a no loss situation here - whatever they come up with will be better than the current Maps app.

 

The only way for Google to steal Apple's thunder would be to launch a full blown version of Maps for iOS - with all the features that Android has. If Google does that, Apple's launch will be muted - because no one would want a version from Apple that has lesser features and lesser accuracy than the Google version. But even if this happens, it is a win-win for Apple's customers - and therefore for Apple itself!

 

"Maps simply needs to be "good enough" although the solution will far surpass that standard." - MacBook Pro

 

In all seriousness, have you ever used an iPhone?

  • Maps does have turn-by-turn directions, are you referring to dynamic routing (which the Apple iPhone does not have)
  • Maps does have Street View, in fact, the implementation is so elegant I expect the user interface to remain substantially the same
  • Maps does provide traffic information which appears to be exactly the same data as Google Maps on Android-based smartphones
  • Maps can share your location via email, SMS/MMS or Tweet for those who want to broadcast or narrowcast their location to friends or family that capability is provided in the "Find Friends" app

 

I do agree that the bar is set fairly low though.  Maps doesn't need to compete with Google Maps on Android, any new version of Maps need only compete with the current version of Maps.

post #82 of 89
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

1) Can Apple just license Street View from Google?
2) I've hear that their C3 mapping system can mimic what Street View does but I can't see it. Can someone explain how?
3) Possibility that Apple has had unmarked vehicles doing their own Street View mapping for a couple years now?

 

According to the WSJ (or was it the NYT) Google delaying the launch of Street View (as well as not offering turn-by-turn navigation) was one of the main reasons Apple started looking at their own mapping solution in the first place. I really can't see Google licensing Street View after Apple drops Google Maps.

post #83 of 89
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Originally Posted by pt123 View Post

Google maps not only have street view, but it also provides driving, transit and biking routes on their maps. Very nice.

 

Maps isn't Google Maps.  Substantial and significant components of the Maps data and infrastructure are provided by Google but the user interface is provided by Apple.  

post #84 of 89
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

1) Can Apple just license Street View from Google?
2) I've hear that their C3 mapping system can mimic what Street View does but I can't see it. Can someone explain how?
3) Possibility that Apple has had unmarked vehicles doing their own Street View mapping for a couple years now?

 

 

  1.  Although possible this is not likely especially since Apple will likely continue to use Navteq data as used by C3 Technologies originally or use their own solution.
  2. C3 Technologies solution captures as many as 100 images of a single object from different angles with resolutions as high as 10 cm.  A 3D reconstruction is generated from a volume data set of one million LIDAR (Light Detection And Ranging) scans per second.  The digital photography is overlayed on the 3D urban terrain map resulting from the LIDAR scanning.    The street level view can be generated in the same manner as any other view.  In areas without high resolution scanning satellite maps can be stretched over a digital elevation model for a sculpted landscape view.  
  3. After significantly more research I was able to discover that the C3 Technologies street views are actually provided by Navteq although Apple may have their own project.
post #85 of 89

I can not believe I am about to write this, however, if you look at Bing Maps it is far better than google maps, especially when you look at the 3D satellite images, you can spin 360 degrees around an object and see it perfectly well. The only way you can do this with google is to go to google earth, and it only shows 3D from a south facing view and it very poor image qualify compare to what Bing is showing these days. If Apple does there on thing and we all agree google maps suck and M$ has not original ideas Apple will definitely be better.

post #86 of 89
I agree, Bing maps are pretty good. The more choice the better I say.
post #87 of 89
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Originally Posted by aBeliefSystem View Post

I agree, Bing maps are pretty good. The more choice the better I say.

Even Microsoft is dropping Bing maps for their upcoming WinMo8 in favor of Navteq/Nokia mapping.

http://venturebeat.com/2012/06/20/goodbye-bing-maps-windows-phone-8-will-use-nokia-maps-instead/

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post #88 of 89
Interesting they're dropping Bing Maps. I know that Apple has the tendency to kill things but it seems MS does this way more often; could that be because they don't stand behind their products?
post #89 of 89
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Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post

Interesting they're dropping Bing Maps. I know that Apple has the tendency to kill things but it seems MS does this way more often; could that be because they don't stand behind their products?

Because they probably think that something better is always going to come along, and maintaining a service that is rarely used is a waste of resources.

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