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With the WWDC keynote now just five days away, a list of alleged part numbers provided to AppleInsider suggests Apple may be preparing to revamp nearly its entire Mac lineup.

A total of 27 new parts are on the list, and 14 of them appear to be new Mac hardware, while the remaining 13 parts are listed as "standalone kits." All of the part numbers also reportedly appear in Apple's reseller system.

A total of 14 new Mac models arriving next week would mean that Apple may upgrade an uncharacteristically large number of its computers at once. At present, a total of 20 different Mac models, not including build-to-order options, are listed in Apple's store among its five product lineups: MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, Mac mini, iMac and Mac Pro.

None of Apple's lineup has yet to be upgraded to Intel's latest-generation Ivy Bridge processors. Suitable ultra-low voltage Ivy Bridge chips for the MacBook Air debuted last week, while chips that could be used in the MacBook Pro lineup launched in late April.

The purported parts show new Macs allegedly headed for sale in Australia. The person who provided the picture indicated that Apple appears to be sending a reasonable amount of stock to resellers in that country in time for a launch next week.

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AppleInsider was also provided with Australian Good and Service Tax numbers for each of the part numbers listed in the inventory. With this 10% tax, the following prices have been extracted, allowing for educated guesses on what each part number could be:

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Apple is expected to update the 15-inch MacBook Pros first, before the 13- and 17-inch models are upgraded with thinner designs and higher resolution displays. Apple also offers the MacBook Air in two sizes of 11 and 13 inches, and the iMac with screens of 21.5 and 27 inches. Priced at $119 Australian, the "K31" hardware is likely either an AirPort Express or a new, cheaper AirPort Extreme.

The three parts identified as "K5BPLUS" are believed to be new Mac Pro desktops. Inventory of the Mac Pro has become diminished ahead of next week's Worldwide Developers Conference, and recent rumors suggested the desktop would receive a refresh, despite the fact that officials at Apple were reportedly questioning the future of the professional desktop lineup.

The parts list provided to AppleInsider also includes a number of other parts, labeled both "better" and "best" for various model options. They are known as "J11," "J13," "J30," J31," and "D2."

Another part listed has just a single model, identified as "best." It is identified as "K31." Not listed among the original parts list provided were technical specifications for the new Macs, or prices.

Specifically rumored to receive updates at next week's WWDC keynote on Monday are the MacBook Pro, which is expected to feature a thinner and lighter design similar to the MacBook Air along with a new higher resolution display, as well as the all-in-one iMac desktop, which is also said to receive an upgraded display.

Apple is expected to unveil new products at its WWDC 2012 keynote, which will be held at 10 a.m. Pacific next Monday, June 11. AppleInsider will have full, live coverage of the event, as well as the rest of WWDC.
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omg! i hope this is true..... I have been waiting for a new Mac Pro for over a year now....

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If a couple of the pictures I've seen of box labels are to be believed, they won't have 802.11ac yet. If so, it looks like I'll be waiting until next year to upgrade my iMac. I hope the wireless keyboard and Magic Trackpad are upgraded with Bluetooth 4.0 as well. My Magic Trackpad is a little battery hungry, as I usually have to replace the batteries in about 2-3 weeks of mild use. 

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omg! i hope this is true..... I have been waiting for a new Mac Pro for over a year now....

The Mac Pro part numbers here match up with the 9to5 Mac Pro numbers.  Corroborating evidence? 

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The WWDC is presumably meant to focus on software development (?)

 

Has Apple announced major hardware releases at WWDC before?

 

 

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    The WWDC is presumably meant to focus on software development (?)

     

    Has Apple announced major hardware releases at WWDC before?

     

     

 

Thats a myth. People were shocked when there was NO hardware announcement last year.

With Apple pulling out of Macworld, I expect that WWDC will become an increasingly important venue for hardware announcements - and lets face it, without the developers Apple hardware would be just another shiny computer. OSX and the whole Apple Grid is what really distinguishes Apple from its competitors.

 


(Source: http://www.quora.com/Apple-World-Wide-Developer-Conference-WWDC/What-hardware-has-Apple-announced-at-WWDC)

 

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All I know is, I'm going to be REALLY disappointed if Apple doesn't introduce a new/redesigned Mac Pro on Monday (after all these recent rumors). Oh well, it's too late now, my hopes are up.
 


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Looking at the part numbers and the start of the prices, compared to the current prices on the AU store, the new iMac part numbers are:

 

MD101X/A J30 Better -> 21.5 iMac 

MD102X/A J30 Best   -> 21.5 iMac

MD103X/A J31 Better -> 27 iMac

MD104X/A J31 Best   -> 27 iMac

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Thats a myth. People were shocked when there was NO hardware announcement last year.

 

Sorry I have to disagree with the notion that WWDC as a software conference is a myth. That is in fact what the conference is about. The Keynote morphed into a hardware focus especially after the iPhone was launched which has felt off to much of the conference attendees for ages. They felt, and still feel that the keynote should be launching the conference not pandering to hardware hungry media. And given that Apple pulled the iPhone hardware launch from WWDC last year it is very possible that they feel the same way. Add to this the notion of being forced into a set schedule (a major reason why they pulled from MacWorld) and it is plausible that WWDC is going back to the intended full focus on software. Especially now that the media blogs every little thing that happens so they don't need a big event to get the word out. Tim Cook farts at lunch and by tea time everyone knows it happens, how bad it smelled etc. Look at what happens over an alleged box label or a part number. 

 

That said, I don't doubt that Apple isn't about to do something with their hardware and probably soon since the Back to School promo typically starts about this time of year. But I disagree with the notion that it will be AT WWDC or more than about 5-10 minutes of the keynote and probably at the very end. The bulk of that will likely be iOS 6 since there's been no preview to give out 3/4 of the details like with Mountain Lion. Then they will shed a little more light on Mountain Lion with a "and to support this" quick general view of the upcoming hardware changes which will put up on the site and in stores perhaps that same day (likely I would say, at least for online)


Edited by charlituna - 6/6/12 at 6:55am

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I'm hoping the 1st three are mini models.

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If a couple of the pictures I've seen of box labels are to be believed, they won't have 802.11ac yet. If so, it looks like I'll be waiting until next year to upgrade my iMac. I hope the wireless keyboard and Magic Trackpad are upgraded with Bluetooth 4.0 as well. My Magic Trackpad is a little battery hungry, as I usually have to replace the batteries in about 2-3 weeks of mild use. 

Assuming that 802.11n is what they have, with any luck the 802.11ac HW is included but the drivers aren't there because Apple won't have their AirPort routers ready. Is that really the best case scenario?

Apple has been one of the first companies to release a high-end consumer routers after a new wireless tech is ready. I hope they do again because there routers are woefully outdated. Well, all consumer routers are. We have so many WiFi capable devices in our homes that our routers are becoming a network bottleneck.

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I want a golden goose.

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I can't wait for Standalone Kit!!!

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Sorry I have to disagree with the notion that WWDC as a software conference is a myth. That is in fact what the conference is about. 

I was referring to the fact that no hardware has been announced at the WWDC is a myth.

The WWDC is a DEVELOPERS conference, and as such should focus on ... well .. development.

 

There is a tie in between hardware and software though. While there focus should be on software, it needs to run on hardware - often new hardware with new capabilities. So, the tie in with hardware announcement is almost a requirement.

 

The question is - should it be "pre-announcements" or "release".

 

If it "pre-announcement" it will tank the sales of existing gear while people wait for the new stuff (based on news - rather than rumour).

If it is "release" it will divert the attention away from software and development.

 

Tough call for Apple - and understandable if there is an initial media focus on hardware release (and don't we all like seeing something shiny and new anyway?). If something is pre-announced, we all want it now. Human nature make us lousy at waiting patiently.

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 My Magic Trackpad is a little battery hungry, as I usually have to replace the batteries in about 2-3 weeks of mild use. 

Why aren't you using the rechargeable batteries that Apple sells?  Or purchase Eneloop batteries which are about the equivalent of Apple's.

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If a couple of the pictures I've seen of box labels are to be believed, they won't have 802.11ac yet. If so, it looks like I'll be waiting until next year to upgrade my iMac. I hope the wireless keyboard and Magic Trackpad are upgraded with Bluetooth 4.0 as well. My Magic Trackpad is a little battery hungry, as I usually have to replace the batteries in about 2-3 weeks of mild use. 

I was finding the same thing with my Magic Trackpad. I like a full size (as in all keys - including navigation and keypad) keyboard, so use a USB keyboard, but for the Trackpad, I bought a Mobee Powerbar (http://www.mobeetechnology.com/the-power-bar.html). Not sure where they ship from, but it arrived within days of ordering.

 

It screws into the same slot as the batteries, and lets you charge of USB. Since I use a tethered keyboard, I daisy chain off that while I am at my desk, but unplug the Trackpad and take it with me as required. The BT connection runs while its charging, so no loss of function - its just not quite as aesthetically pleasing.

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Assuming that 802.11n is what they have, with any luck the 802.11ac HW is included but the drivers aren't there because Apple won't have their AirPort routers ready. Is that really the best case scenario?
Apple has been one of the first companies to release a high-end consumer routers after a new wireless tech is ready. I hope they do again because there routers are woefully outdated. Well, all consumer routers are. We have so many WiFi capable devices in our homes that our routers are becoming a network bottleneck.

 

Anyone know what the "standalone kits" are or have any guesses?  The only thing that come to mind are upgrades to the existing Mac Pros, but Thunderbolt upgrades don't make any sense and there are too many to be just graphic cards aren't there?  

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omg! i hope this is true..... I have been waiting for a new Mac Pro for over a year now....

If you wait for the latest and greatest, you'll end up never buying. I never advise people to wait, except maybe this week just because WWDC is next week. But other than that, buy what you need and do it now.
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If a couple of the pictures I've seen of box labels are to be believed, they won't have 802.11ac yet. If so, it looks like I'll be waiting until next year to upgrade my iMac. I hope the wireless keyboard and Magic Trackpad are upgraded with Bluetooth 4.0 as well. My Magic Trackpad is a little battery hungry, as I usually have to replace the batteries in about 2-3 weeks of mild use. 

If there's no need for a new iMac now, sure, wait. Otherwise, read above.

They can also add .11ac to new computers now and introduce new Airports that support that at a later time.
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Given that they have to cover Mountain Lion and iOS 6 in the keynote (and potentially a forthcoming Apple TV API and App Store), it seems unlikely that they'd have time for this many hardware announcements. The fact that there's so many probably means they're mostly spec bumps rather than redesigns and will be updated quietly without an announcement either tomorrow or after WWDC. I'm setting expectations to LOW.

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If you wait for the latest and greatest, you'll end up never buying. I never advise people to wait, except maybe this week just because WWDC is next week. But other than that, buy what you need and do it now.
If there's no need for a new iMac now, sure, wait. Otherwise, read above.
They can also add .11ac to new computers now and introduce new Airports that support that at a later time.

 

sorry, but we are talking about a $4000 workstation here. waiting for the lastest for a year is not a big deal. had i spent $4000 12 months ago and new ones come out Monday, I would be pretty upset. mac minis and iMac i agree, buy when you need.

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The Keynote morphed into a hardware focus especially after the iPhone was launched which has felt off to much of the conference attendees for ages.


The Mac Pro came out at WWDC the year before the first iPhone.

 

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And given that Apple pulled the iPhone hardware launch from WWDC last year it is very possible that they feel the same way.

 

Though I do agree with you. It should be fully about software.

 

The B2S promotion won't start until mid-June, however.

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Looking at the prices in the right column, I'm gonna call BS on the Mac Pro part numbers.  I'm guessing that the digits we see are the thousands, and $2xxx and $3xxx are too much to be anything but the Mac Pro.  This would mean two off-the-shelf models, anything else is a build-to-order choice.

 

K31 is less than $1000 AUS, so I'm guessing Mac Mini.

 

The Jxx's are obviously MacBooks, I'm speculating:

J11/J13 are 11" and 13" MacBook Airs, to be called plain "MacBook"s now, two models each - they'll start under $1000 in the US but in Australia they'll start just over $1000

J30/J31 are 15" and 17" MacBook Pros, of course redesigned to be thinner and look more like the Airs - priced from the mid $1xxx to the low $2xxx

 

This leaves K5B as three models of iMac.

 

Still struggling to figure out why so many "standalone kits"... all I can think is that they're doing something really off the wall and want to debut their own accessories a la smart cover.

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If you wait for the latest and greatest, you'll end up never buying. I never advise people to wait, except maybe this week just because WWDC is next week. But other than that, buy what you need and do it now.

 

I agree 100%. I just ordered a new Mac Pro this morning. I can't wait for it to arrive.

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Why aren't you using the rechargeable batteries that Apple sells?  Or purchase Eneloop batteries which are about the equivalent of Apple's.

 

Yes.  I use apple's wireless peripherals on all my computers and see a lot more of them in my daily work and it should be more like a month or more before you change batteries if you are using the re-chargeables or any good batteries.  

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I agree 100%. I just ordered a new Mac Pro this morning. I can't wait for it to arrive.

 

And what will you do when the new one comes out next week? Why would you buy two year old tech?

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And what will you do when the new one comes out next week? Why would you buy two year old tech?

Not just two year old tech, but two year ago priced two year old tech.  Apple is still charging the price you would have paid if you bought it in 2010.  At least they could drop the price after a while if they aren't going to refresh as I'm sure the component prices have dropped dramatically.  Apple is probably making a killing off people who bought Mac Pro's this year.

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The MC97x (D2) numbers are most likely iMacs.  The Late-2011 Education-only i3 model is MC978 and I can't find an instance where the first digit is split between different product families (as opposed to different sized models within a family).

We have the first digit of the prices in the shot, and it looks like we're talking AU$2,000-2,999 for the 'better' and AU$3,000-3,999 for the 'best'.  Current prices for the 27" are AU$1,949 and AU$2,299 so to add an extra AU$1,000ish to these prices something spectacular must be coming - Retina iMac?

 

I would guess at the MC414 (K31) being a Mini on the grounds that it's the only item that will come in at less than AU$1,000 and the position of the $ symbol suggests it has one digit fewer than the other prices.

 

The J30, J31, J11 and J13 smell a bit like 11" and 13" Airs and 13" and 15" Pros if you take the firsts digit to code for model and the second for size.  Only reservation here would be that the top 13" Air is currently AU$1,799 while the pricing suggests it will hit over AU$2,000.  Could 'best' be Retina display and 'better' regular display to justify those prices?

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At least they could drop the price after a while if they aren't going to refresh as I'm sure the component prices have dropped dramatically.  Apple is probably making a killing off people who bought Mac Pro's this year.

 

Not really. Intel doesn't drop Xeon prices ever, so Apple doesn't drop any prices ever.

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post #29 of 131

The MD4[XX]FE/A appear to correspond to current MD3[XX]FE/A iPad Smart Covers

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FE/A and ZM/A suffix's are accessories.

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Looks like the 15" MBP will be the only redesigned product with everything else simply getting a spec bump.

 

I was hoping for a redesigned iMac with an edge to edge screen and no chin.

 

Seems like we're stuck with silver Macs for evermore.
 

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I'm sure you are doing the right thing but remember not to whine about how the new Mac Pro is more powerful, has beter hardware features and costs less than the model you just purchased and can't wait to get. I might not wait a year, but I could certainly wait a few weeks or a month to get the best available technology in a computer I might own and use for 5 years.

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Not really. Intel doesn't drop Xeon prices ever, so Apple doesn't drop any prices ever.

Yes they do. The cpu in the hex core model dropped over 40% in retail pricing. When it came out, that page listed it at $1000 or so, but retailer charged up to $1100. That is also the correct part for the single package hex core model. The 12 core uses different packages.

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Not just two year old tech, but two year ago priced two year old tech.  Apple is still charging the price you would have paid if you bought it in 2010.  At least they could drop the price after a while if they aren't going to refresh as I'm sure the component prices have dropped dramatically.  Apple is probably making a killing off people who bought Mac Pro's this year.

The others do this too. If you look at Dell the new ones are similar in price to those that are on their way out. As soon as you attach the name workstation to something, this behavior kicks in. It annoys me too though.

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 Why would you buy two year old tech?

because it runs Snow Leopard :D He should've waited for clearance pricing from B+H or Adorama. B+H clearanced 2009 machines for less than Apple charges today in their refurb section.

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I agree 100%. I just ordered a new Mac Pro this morning. I can't wait for it to arrive.


If I had done that, the last thing I would have done is advertise the fact publicly.

 

 

If you were being sarcastic - kudos.

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What's with the dorky "better/best/ultimate" monikers? What is this, Sears?

 

Very un-Apple like, if you ask me.

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If you wait for the latest and greatest, you'll end up never buying. I never advise people to wait, except maybe this week just because WWDC is next week. But other than that, buy what you need and do it now.
If there's no need for a new iMac now, sure, wait. Otherwise, read above.
They can also add .11ac to new computers now and introduce new Airports that support that at a later time.
In the case of Apple, the best time to buy is at release. First, this will give you the longest period of time with that iteration of the product before the next version lands. Look at it like a longer period to amortize the cost. Second, Apple has almost never discounted existing models during their life cycle. The most you can hope for is a refurbished unit which will be discounted, and those will take some time to appear. Or Black Friday deals.
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Any word on a MBP 13" update?

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Very un-Apple like, if you ask me.


They have always done this. I guess Apple has never been very Apple-like.


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I too am frustrated that the new 5th Generation Gigabit Wi-Fi is not going to be on Apple products this year. 

 

Why do you think you know this at all?

 

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We now have 2 5G routers; Netgear & Buffalo.  The 5G Wi-Fi hype is present.  Now is the time Apple should begin releasing 5G products!

 

What is "5G"? 802.11ac? It's a given that Apple will be releasing them.

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No 15" MBA!?

 

That would be a HUGE disappointment if true.

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If a couple of the pictures I've seen of box labels are to be believed, they won't have 802.11ac yet. If so, it looks like I'll be waiting until next year to upgrade my iMac. I hope the wireless keyboard and Magic Trackpad are upgraded with Bluetooth 4.0 as well. My Magic Trackpad is a little battery hungry, as I usually have to replace the batteries in about 2-3 weeks of mild use. 

This makes no sense at all. An iMac should be wired to a switch, using WiFi for a desktop is so backwards as to defy description.

As to keyboards I'm hoping something happens there also. The current keyboards are a bit pathetic.
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