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I really wish a 23" or 24" iMac reappears.  21.5" strikes me as too small.

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I really wish a 23" or 24" iMac reappears.  21.5" strikes me as too small.

 

Is 27" too big? Maybe with the chin… lol.gif

 

What about a smaller chin?

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post #123 of 131
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The WWDC is presumably meant to focus on software development (?)

 

Has Apple announced major hardware releases at WWDC before?

 

 

Apple did in 1998. It wasn't available for immediate sale but the original iMac made its first public appearance.
 

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Not always the most convenient, esp. when you're trying to look at a 150-page PDF/Preview document, and you want to quickly scroll from, say p. 3 to somewhere between pages 77 and 83 to do a quick browse.....

 

Lion is alright. I don't see much that is a noticeable by way of improvements other than pages scrolling in the same direction as the finger movement and some additional desktop images.

 

Apple could just as easily have done that with a 2MB update to 10.6.

Type in the page number, or System Prefs > General > Show scroll bars: Always. Easy enough.

post #125 of 131
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What's with the dorky "better/best/ultimate" monikers? What is this, Sears?

 

Very un-Apple like, if you ask me.

 

Very "merchandiser-like" actually.  The egg producers association (there must be one), is likely contemplating a "trade dress" suit against Apple even as I write.  That is Apple is "stealing" their convention:  In the egg world the smallest size of egg commonly sold is "large," which is analogous to Apple not selling any computer below the level of "better." (And, anticipating you clever types, let me cut anyone off at the pass from replying that it means "better than a Windows machine" even if that's true - the fact remains that Apple's apparently - according to this article - hooked to the tradition of subliminal market-speak.)  

 

And for olives the obsfucations and acrobatics used to avoid words like "small" or "tiny" are truly inventive....



Names, many apparently influenced by the American names, have become attached to some of these size grades. Note that a name may have a different meaning than it does in the United States, For example, in Europe there are between 121 and 140 olives in a kilogram of Colossal olives, while in the United States a kilogram of Colossal olives contains between 70 and 90 olives.

Size Number
per Kilogram
Approximate Number
per Pound
Bullets 351–380 159–172
Fine 321–350 146–158
Brilliant 291–320 132–145
Superior 261–290 118–132
Large 231–260 105–117
Extra Large 201–230 91–104
Jumbo 181–200 83–90
Extra Jumbo 161–180 74–82
Giants 141–160 65–73
Colossal 121–140 55–64
Super Colossal 111–120 50–54
Mammoth 101–110 46–50
Super Mammoth 91–100 41–45

 

And given Apple's history, from the company now selling us "resolutionary" iDevices.....the next grade above "ultimate" would, of course be "Magical."  

 

Nothing new under the sun here though.. ..as old as free markets and marketing and oxymorons.  Jumbo shrimp anyone?.

 

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In the case of Apple, the best time to buy is at release. First, this will give you the longest period of time with that iteration of the product before the next version lands. Look at it like a longer period to amortize the cost. Second, Apple has almost never discounted existing models during their life cycle. The most you can hope for is a refurbished unit which will be discounted, and those will take some time to appear. Or Black Friday deals.

 

I'd agree on a "step-upgraded" model if one is hot to trot - but I certainly have nothing against saving some bucks on Apple-backed refurbs - or taking into account seasonal promotions and other such events.  

As for brand-new form factors - and especially when accompanied with a whole new OS version number, there's often some wisdom in letting the "real-world beta test" of a release play out so that any kinks - and there have been quite a few of these over the years - get worked out.  So in that case I'd amend your window to "a month or two after release."  

For those who need to be close to, but not on, the bleeding edge, all of these are valid strategies for lowering TCO (and possible frustrations) over a several year period....  ...and given the uses most make of their digital devices, aside from status and ego needs, used Macs can be both very cost-effective and and satisfying user experiences.

I just can't seem to kill my 2005 iBook (12", 1.33GHZ PPC).  It became my (small corp) corporate book-keeper - and when the "6" key died, I bought another on eBay for $100 as a parts bed.  Instead I received another fully-working machine, so one is for the books and iTunes (without bogging my main machine down while consuming media, as I tend to have numerous productivity programs and 20 browser tabs running), and the other's migrated to the bedroom as my late night podcast watcher and light-surfing/chatting use.

So more than one optimal way to skin the OS X cats - depending on usage cases, budgets, etc.

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post #126 of 131
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If you wait for the latest and greatest, you'll end up never buying. I never advise people to wait, except maybe this week just because WWDC is next week. But other than that, buy what you need and do it now.
If there's no need for a new iMac now, sure, wait. Otherwise, read above.
They can also add .11ac to new computers now and introduce new Airports that support that at a later time.

I always prefer to buy the outgoing hardware, as it's often discounted. I just got a low-end Mac mini for $568 at Best Buy this week. Last year I picked up an iPhone 4 16gb for $150 from AT&T. If you can live with being 1 year behind the bleeding edge you can save some money.

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post #127 of 131
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That's incorrect. All generations of iPads support 802.11n at both 2.4GHz and 5GHz. 

The iPhone only supports 2.4GHz.

Oops! My bad, so big thanks for the correction.

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Why anyone would spend $1000.00 on an  Apple display is beyond me, buy you can get one if you want.

I spent $ 1800 when the ACD was EOL'd in August 2010. Well, I got it discounted, I believe for € 1100 or something. To me, it's not the costs of products that count, rather the product itself. If it's something that I cannot afford I'll simply save up for it and must understand that I cannot upgrade to the latest version every single time, but that's ok.
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I always prefer to buy the outgoing hardware, as it's often discounted. I just got a low-end Mac mini for $568 at Best Buy this week. Last year I picked up an iPhone 4 16gb for $150 from AT&T. If you can live with being 1 year behind the bleeding edge you can save some money.

That certainly works for a lot of people and is a money-wise thing to do!
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They make a version of the exact same display with a mini-display port input:

 

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MC007LL/A?fnode=MTY1NDA5OQ

 

Why anyone would spend $1000.00 on an  Apple display is beyond me, buy you can get one if you want.

OK, this may be my ignorance showing, but isn't the Mini Display Port the same plug used by Thunderbolt? So aren't the two monitors actually the same, with one being repackaged as "Thunderbolt" compatible? I know my 2011 Mac mini has a TB port that I can use my DVI monitor with (using a DVI/MDP adapter).

 

Am I nuts?

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post #129 of 131
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 but isn't the Mini Display Port the same plug used by Thunderbolt? 

It's the same connector. Computers with displayport or mini displayport can't use the thunderbolt specific display. You can supposedly plug mini displayport peripherals into a thunderbolt port although I'd want to verify a lack of obscure known bugs. You cannot plug a thunderbolt peripheral into a mini displayport port and have it work at this time. Thunderbolt is actually intel's thing. Apple mostly supplied the connector. 

post #130 of 131

God... 15 inch MacBook Pro could cost AU$3199!? (AU$ is about the same as US$). I'm guessing that would be the top-end MacBook Pro...

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God... 15 inch MacBook Pro could cost AU$3199!? (AU$ is about the same as US$). I'm guessing that would be the top-end MacBook Pro...

The exchange rate is about equal but there are differences on goods imported to Australia that likely make it more than US price. I'd say the US version would be about $400 less expensive.

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