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With AirPlay, Bluetooth, wifi, and 4G, aside from charging the thing, there's no reason to ever plug it in.

 

You're willing to wait hours to copy stuff to a 64GB device over 802.11n?

 

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If inductive charging is included, then there you go ... Completely wireless.

 

That's such a gimmick, though. It's not wireless at all; you have to put it in exactly the right place. You may as well just plug it in.

 

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…but there will be adapters for permanent home and car use.

 

Absolutely. $10-29, I'd imagine. Apple's being the high end, third parties' being the low-end.

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A new video has surfaced of the alleged next-generation iPhone, featuring a side-by-side comparison of an iPhone 4S and a backplate identical to a part seen in previously leaked photos.
The video from wireless parts company ETrade Supply (via CydiaBlog) gives a highly detailed look at what appears to be an aluminum backplate first seen in May, lending further evidence that the part may be legitimate.

 

And which bar did this come from. What's the fav menu item. I hope it's something with shrimp

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Just bought a small harddrive with USB 3.0 and noticed the different style connector i had never seen before. But the image of the smaller hole for the dock connector on this leaked part came to mind and wouldnt it make sense that the new connector is just a small USB 3.0 type connector? That would make a lot more sense then to switch to another unique design and now that it seems most Macs will have USB 3.0 it would be a sensible move.

 

The size seems about right.

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Still looks either fake or disguised to me.

 

Lack of the required FCC etc info is the biggest clue that a back plate is fake. They never remember to put that stuff or they leave it off cause folks don't like having it on there. But Apple is legally required to have that data on there so it will be there on official plates

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…wouldn't it make sense that the new connector is just a small USB 3.0 type connector? That would make a lot more sense then to switch to another unique design and now that it seems most Macs will have USB 3.0 it would be a sensible move.

 

And remove audio, video, and controls? I don't think so.


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Lack of the required FCC etc info is the biggest clue that a back plate is fake. They never remember to put that stuff or they leave it off cause folks don't like having it on there. But Apple is legally required to have that data on there so it will be there on official plates

 

It's not going to be on prototypes… 

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Maybe on the iPhone 6 they'll go to inductive charging and bluetooth data transfer. No need for any connector port in that case.

 

Inductive charging isn't really ready for prime time and why would they need bluetooth when you already have wifi syncing in the mix. 

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I'm curious why you say this and why everyone is assuming that it's micro-USB.  

What's the EU requirement-- Mini or Micro. 

 

Apple might have been working on a smaller DC but that doesn't mean that they decided to go with it. Perhaps like the 7 inch iPad they tested it and felt that it wasn't ideal and are going for a simple power port and wifi syncing as THE way to go. 

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What's the EU requirement-- Mini or Micro. 

 

Micro, but Apple has an exception.

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At the bottom, there are two more holes on one grill than on the other, due to the headphone jack. This lack of symmetry is jarring on an Apple device. It looks unbalanced. Jobs would fix that by removing the two extra holes.

 

I don't care for the two-texture back either, or 16:9. I would vastly prefer a slightly larger display with the same pixel count, say 3.8" or 3.9", and the current 3:2 ratio, in a marginally wider, but not taller, handset. I think it would be more comfortable all around. The portrait mode keyboard was always slightly too narrow. I feel the 16:9 display is a quick-fix cave-in to Android phones with huge screens. They wanted the display size to start with a 4. The only upside to the 16:9 display is for videos, and that's not a huge benefit, really.

 

The connector change is fine if an adapter is included free of charge (or very cheap), with no loss of functionality. If not, then it's a show stopper.

 

The dark color, looks bluish, is odd. The color itself is OK but by being dark it doesn't look as distinctive as the current design. Most handsets are dark.
 

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They've used the same 30-pin connector for a decade. Think about that! A decade in consumer technology for 3 device categories. I think the change is long over due and welcome it with open arms.

 

Why not to just get rid of it in favor of pure wireless interface? Inductive charging, air play, BT play. The phone jack is obsolete too.

This would also make it easier for waterproof design.

But instead Apple is stuck with the new connector for another decade.

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You're willing to wait hours to copy stuff to a 64GB device over 802.11n?

 

Unlike you, very few folks are copying 60 GB of stuff back and forth on a regular basis. Perhaps that one initial load up but then after that it's typically more like 3-4 GB at a time. Perhaps 10 GB if they are loading up on movies before a big trip. But even then they have no real issue with doing it while they are asleep and nothing else is really dancing around the wifi connection. 

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Why not to just get rid of it in favor of pure wireless interface?

 

Because it's too slow for file transfers and charging is a gimmick right now.


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Perhaps 10 GB if they are loading up on movies before a big trip.

 

That's the point. Then you're waiting for ten gigs. The waiting is the point.

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It's not going to be on prototypes… 

 

But this isn't being fronted as a prototype. They want us to believe it's the real thing. The implication being that the iPhone whatever they call it is already in production and either this was smuggled out of the production line or it's a repair part. 

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This is the ugliest piece of SH1T I have ever seen.

 

With a world class design team you people must be high on crack to think Apple would ever release such an ugly atrocity!!!

 

That "leak" looks like vomit puked out twice then pi$$ed on and sh1tted on by multiple animals. Horrible and i cannot even find the words to describe how ugly that thing is.

 

Put down the crack pipe, and just THINK for a moment. Only the first iPhone was two-tone color in the back and even then they didnt go for tri-color disgrace!!!

 

Geez i wish I knew where you people lived or could be found because I have a bridge I own in new york that I want to sell you!!!!! Its located right next to where I keep my unicorn!

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But this isn't being fronted as a prototype. They want us to believe it's the real thing. The implication being that the iPhone whatever they call it is already in production and either this was smuggled out of the production line or it's a repair part. 

 

It's months from being released. It's not in production yet. It's a prototype. If they're saying it's a final piece, they're idiots or liars. lol.gif

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At the bottom, there are two more holes on one grill than on the other, due to the headphone jack. This lack of symmetry is jarring on an Apple device. It looks unbalanced. Jobs would fix that by removing the two extra holes.

 

I'd be more concerned about the big ass holes around the microphone and speaker. That's just asking for liquid to get in there. So either they are going to say screw it to charging for liquid and 'damage' will only be shattered glass, they are going back to the whole 'if the dot in the headphones etc is changed you are screwed' or they aren't going to make it impossible for techs to quickly get inside the phones. The first seems too generous even for Apple, the second is a lawsuit waiting to happen (and it will) and the third would require them to make those already too short appointments longer to give the techs time to actually open the phones up since they can't just slide the back off anymore. 

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It's months from being released. It's not in production yet. It's a prototype. If they're saying it's a final piece, they're idiots or liars. lol.gif

 

So you know the release date, you must if you KNOW that it's months from being released. So why are you being stingy with the info. 

 

And even if it isn't turning up until the fall like last year given the sales that happen at a launch it is not out of the question that Apple might have started production on the components so they have time to assemble enough for a major launch sweep like the iPad. Unless you work for Apple and specifically in production logistics you can't say yes or no to the notion. That there is logic to that kind of notion is what they are playing on to make folks believe this is real

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The only thing that looks suspicious is that the verbiage underneath where it says "iPhone" on the back is not there.  Apple usually has Designed by Apple in California Assembled in China on one line and then the Model number, FCC number and some other stuff printed underneath the iPhone labeling.  Just an observation.

To me, it could be a prototype.

I also have my doubts about this video. If it is a prototype, why advertise it as an iPhone? A blank case or one with just mystery part number makes more sense.

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I'd be more concerned about the big ass holes around the microphone and speaker. That's just asking for liquid to get in there. So either they are going to say screw it to charging for liquid and 'damage' will only be shattered glass, they are going back to the whole 'if the dot in the headphones etc is changed you are screwed' or they aren't going to make it impossible for techs to quickly get inside the phones. The first seems too generous even for Apple, the second is a lawsuit waiting to happen (and it will) and the third would require them to make those already too short appointments longer to give the techs time to actually open the phones up since they can't just slide the back off anymore. 

 

I'd say those are for the screws, so they wouldn't actually be holes on the finished product.

 

Apple might be working on water resistant designs. I recall something about that posted on AI a few months ago. They should be, anyway. That would be a real improvement for real people.

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Because it's too slow for file transfers and charging is a gimmick right now.


 

 

That's the point. Then you're waiting for ten gigs. The waiting is the point.

 

I think you are overstating the speed problem a bit.  I have a 64GB iPhone and a 32GB iPad and they both sync wirelessly and back up wirelessly to the cloud without any problems.  

 

In theory there might be an issue, but in practice, at least for me, and using two devices with lots of storage there isn't any speed problem at all.  When it comes to syncing a new movie or TV show or throwing a new album on the phone, it isn't actually syncing the whole storage area anyway so it's even faster in those situations.  

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This is the ugliest piece of SH1T I have ever seen.

 

With a world class design team you people must be high on crack to think Apple would ever release such an ugly atrocity!!!

 

That "leak" looks like vomit puked out twice then pi$$ed on and sh1tted on by multiple animals. Horrible and i cannot even find the words to describe how ugly that thing is.

 

Put down the crack pipe, and just THINK for a moment. Only the first iPhone was two-tone color in the back and even then they didnt go for tri-color disgrace!!!

 

Geez i wish I knew where you people lived or could be found because I have a bridge I own in new york that I want to sell you!!!!! Its located right next to where I keep my unicorn!

 

Stop pulling punches. Tell us how you really think. :)

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This is the ugliest piece of SH1T I have ever seen.

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Geez i wish I knew where you people lived or could be found because I have a bridge I own in new york that I want to sell you!!!!! Its located right next to where I keep my unicorn!

 

I think you are exaggerating, but what's on the video is definitely a step down in elegance and simplicity from the iPhone 4 and 4S. Maybe two steps.

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What's the EU requirement-- Mini or Micro. 

 

Apple might have been working on a smaller DC but that doesn't mean that they decided to go with it. Perhaps like the 7 inch iPad they tested it and felt that it wasn't ideal and are going for a simple power port and wifi syncing as THE way to go. 

 

The European requirement is for charging adapters, not for the device.

In other words as long as they have the USB cable and it plugs into the wall block with a USB of the required size, what connects to the device and the port on the device is irrelevant.  

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So you know the release date, you must if you KNOW that it's months from being released. So why are you being stingy with the info. 

 

Wait, do you think it's coming out at WWDC?

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How does Apple deal with 30 pins? Make it 60 pins so it can be reversible?

Just use two pins to determine the orientation and re-route the signals appropriately. 

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Just bought a small harddrive with USB 3.0 and noticed the different style connector i had never seen before. But the image of the smaller hole for the dock connector on this leaked part came to mind and wouldnt it make sense that the new connector is just a small USB 3.0 type connector? That would make a lot more sense then to switch to another unique design and now that it seems most Macs will have USB 3.0 it would be a sensible move.

 

The size seems about right.

 

Switching to USB anything of any size from the 30 pin connector means dropping tons of significant features and throwing out all the devices that currently connect to the iOS devices.  Whereas switching to a smaller version of the same connector merely requires an adapter and everything works fine. Which would you chose? 

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This is the ugliest piece of SH1T I have ever seen.

With a world class design team you people must be high on crack to think Apple would ever release such an ugly atrocity!!!

That "leak" looks like vomit puked out twice then pi$$ed on and sh1tted on by multiple animals. Horrible and i cannot even find the words to describe how ugly that thing is.

I disagree. It's clean and simple - and by eliminating the glass on the back, it reduces breakage by 50% and allows the device to be thinner.

I really don't see what all the complaining is about.
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post #108 of 143
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At the bottom, there are two more holes on one grill than on the other, due to the headphone jack. This lack of symmetry is jarring on an Apple device. It looks unbalanced. Jobs would fix that by removing the two extra holes.

 

I don't care for the two-texture back either, or 16:9. I would vastly prefer a slightly larger display with the same pixel count, say 3.8" or 3.9", and the current 3:2 ratio, in a marginally wider, but not taller, handset. I think it would be more comfortable all around. The portrait mode keyboard was always slightly too narrow. I feel the 16:9 display is a quick-fix cave-in to Android phones with huge screens. They wanted the display size to start with a 4. The only upside to the 16:9 display is for videos, and that's not a huge benefit, really.

 

The connector change is fine if an adapter is included free of charge (or very cheap), with no loss of functionality. If not, then it's a show stopper.

 

The dark color, looks bluish, is odd. The color itself is OK but by being dark it doesn't look as distinctive as the current design. Most handsets are dark.
 

I wish we could quit with the "Jobs would" blah blab blah.  We don't know what Steve did or would do.  We don't know how involved in the new iPhone design Steve was.  The rumors claim he was very involved but we'll never know for sure.

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I disagree. It's clean and simple - and by eliminating the glass on the back, it reduces breakage by 50% and allows the device to be thinner.
I really don't see what all the complaining is about.


What's clean about it?  If the entire back plate was aluminum/metal maybe but the two-toned back is not clean.  Of course I'm not convinced this is legit...

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Just use two pins to determine the orientation and re-route the signals appropriately. 
That's a possibility but I think a single orientation cable is the simplest method.

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Unlike you, very few folks are copying 60 GB of stuff back and forth on a regular basis. Perhaps that one initial load up but then after that it's typically more like 3-4 GB at a time. Perhaps 10 GB if they are loading up on movies before a big trip. But even then they have no real issue with doing it while they are asleep and nothing else is really dancing around the wifi connection. 
It doesn't matter how oftenm you do it but to only have wireless options is not a sound idea. Even now I use a cable to move videos to my iPad because even a GB takes too long for my tastes.

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I disagree. It's clean and simple - and by eliminating the glass on the back, it reduces breakage by 50% and allows the device to be thinner.
I really don't see what all the complaining is about.

 

It is ugly because it is longer and reminds a tv remote. It will only fit deeper pockets.

And according to the leaked front panel parts it still has a huge bezel and a tiny screen compared to the entire panel area.

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…it still has a huge bezel and a tiny screen compared to the entire panel area.

 

Without the bezel, you'd complain it registers taps you didn't mean. And no, the screen is no longer tiny compared to the panel area… 

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Lack of the required FCC etc info is the biggest clue that a back plate is fake. They never remember to put that stuff or they leave it off cause folks don't like having it on there. But Apple is legally required to have that data on there so it will be there on official plates


Right... someone goes to extraordinary lengths to produce a dead perfect physical 'fake' of a backplate, then 'forgets' some labeling because they're idiots.

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At the bottom, there are two more holes on one grill than on the other, due to the headphone jack. This lack of symmetry is jarring on an Apple device. It looks unbalanced. Jobs would fix that by removing the two extra holes.

 


 

Good lord. You actually stare at the bottom of a device and get upset because its 'unbalanced'? Seriously?

Stare at the top of a 4S then and go into a tizzy about the fact that the top is asymmetrical.

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People should stop whining about a the smaller connector. We'd all be stuck with 8-track if technology didn't move forward. It has to change sometime and the current connector looks like a Soviet Union era connector. There will certainly be an adapter available likely in the box and at low cost otherwise.

My grandparents have an 8 track player in the garage that I used to listen to the tapes my father sent back from the Vietnam war and it uses the same RCA connections that my record player used in the 80's and my receivers use today.

 

Connections aren't "technology" and there are more valid reasons to keep them around especially when there's no technical reason to get rid of them and tons of devices and peripherals by the same company still using them.

 

 

In response to the person claiming that I must be whining about VGA ports on my computer I suppose I need to point out the obvious difference between an iDevice and a desktop computer: I don't lug my computer around and plug it into cars, take it to the beach, lug it around to parties and play music and videos off it at a party. If I did, however, it'd take one adapter. I wouldn't need a different cable everywhere I went like I will now for my iPhone and  a different cable for my iPod (and everyone around me who wants to use my peripherals will have to have one or the other or both)!

 

That said, it's becoming increasingly more difficult to reprogram my BMW's ECM since RS-232 ports on laptops are prehistoric. Same issue with updating the firmware on my receiver. I think you guys are either too young or too caught up in the computer industry's incessant demand for consumers to upgrade. In consumer electronics a "decade" is not long at all and certainly not for ports. Very few ports have changed in the past forty years of computing and none changed in consumer electronics until industry started force-feeding rapid changes a la HDMI to thwart piracy.

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My grandparents have an 8 track player in the garage that I used to listen to the tapes my father sent back from the Vietnam war and it uses the same RCA connections that my record player used in the 80's and my receivers use today.

 

Connections aren't "technology" and there are more valid reasons to keep them around especially when there's no technical reason to get rid of them and tons of devices and peripherals by the same company still using them.

 

 

In response to the person claiming that I must be whining about VGA ports on my computer I suppose I need to point out the obvious difference between an iDevice and a desktop computer: I don't lug my computer around and plug it into cars, take it to the beach, lug it around to parties and play music and videos off it at a party. If I did, however, it'd take one adapter. I wouldn't need a different cable everywhere I went like I will now for my iPhone and  a different cable for my iPod (and everyone around me who wants to use my peripherals will have to have one or the other or both)!

 

That said, it's becoming increasingly more difficult to reprogram my BMW's ECM since RS-232 ports on laptops are prehistoric. Same issue with updating the firmware on my receiver. I think you guys are either too young or too caught up in the computer industry's incessant demand for consumers to upgrade. In consumer electronics a "decade" is not long at all and certainly not for ports. Very few ports have changed in the past forty years of computing and none changed in consumer electronics until industry started force-feeding rapid changes a la HDMI to thwart piracy.

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The connector did evolve over time, but some of it is out of sight, but the cable connector did get shortened.

Charging is the biggest remaining reason to dock.

It doesn't make sense to hard wire into the car any more in my opinion, Bluetooth systems these days are very good, cables are just another mess. Even video does very well over AirPlay.

Hopefully there will be adapters, but I'm really liking the wireless capabilities.

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Yes, boo-hoo bixxle ...
With AirPlay, Bluetooth, wifi, and 4G, aside from charging the thing, there's no reason to ever plug it in. If inductive charging is included, then there you go ... Completely wireless.
The 30-pin connector has been around for almost 10 years ... It seemed outdated and clunky to me then. It consumes too much space for such a small device and frankly is no longer needed. Yes, millions of dock connectors will be rendered useless this year by the latest products, but there will be adapters for permanant home and car use. And you can bet the after market industry will step up quickly to offer new products (with backward compatible adapters).
If you just bought a 4S and a new car specifically to dock it, too bad for you. But seriously do you remember the years before the iPhone? Every time you bought a new cell phone, you had to buy a completely new set of accessories because every manufacture had a different set of standards, sometimes even between their own models ... and you do know that all of Apple's 30-pin dock connectors are not compatible with every dock, right?
Be grateful for the decade of consistency Apple offered for their portable devices ... You realize that Apple didn't have to make the entire family of iPods, iPhones and iPads compatible wi each other at all right?
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Originally Posted by CarlosViscarra View Post

This is the ugliest piece of SH1T I have ever seen.

 

With a world class design team you people must be high on crack to think Apple would ever release such an ugly atrocity!!!

 

That "leak" looks like vomit puked out twice then pi$$ed on and sh1tted on by multiple animals. Horrible and i cannot even find the words to describe how ugly that thing is.

 

Put down the crack pipe, and just THINK for a moment. Only the first iPhone was two-tone color in the back and even then they didnt go for tri-color disgrace!!!

 

Geez i wish I knew where you people lived or could be found because I have a bridge I own in new york that I want to sell you!!!!! Its located right next to where I keep my unicorn!

Clearly you are a person or lead a company who has sold millions upon millions of phones, laptops, music players and the like.  That being said, how would you design the next iPhone and have you submitted your designs to Apple for approval?  What would username CarlosViscarra do?  It seems that's what we should all be doing on here.

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Lack of the required FCC etc info is the biggest clue that a back plate is fake. They never remember to put that stuff or they leave it off cause folks don't like having it on there. But Apple is legally required to have that data on there so it will be there on official plates

 

So, why would FCC information be placed on a prototype for a "world phone" that doesn't even have FCC approval yet?  We have seen this case from two sources now, so I think it's the real deal.

 

Regarding the case's material, didn't I read on here that liquid metal would satisfy the antenna concerns, while offering the phone more durability?  Why is everyone assuming this casing is aluminum?

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The most obvious reason to me that they didn't name the iPhone 5th gen iPhone 5 is that they are waiting to use the iPhone 4g name. That's the biggest selling feature, and they can use that name. Why not? Wouldn't that be the most marketable?

 

Anyway, after that, they would just go to iPhone.

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