Confirmed: Obama WAS a member of the Socialist New Party - Page 6

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I'd love to MJ. I've been trying for the past several min. However since the " upgrade " of this site sometimes it won't let me post if I'm quoting the previous post.

:rolleyes:

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So do you think that if these allegations about Obama being tied to a socialist party are true would it be an awful thing and why?

Yes it probably is true. The only thing I find awful are what he's doing. Whatever it is that motivates that is probably irrelevant. Is he a "closet socialist?" Probably. Certainly his rhetoric appears to indicate this. As I said in the other thread, ultimately he's a statist who is primarily a political opportunist willing to use both socialist and fascist approaches to gain and retain his power to reshape the US in his own Utopian vision. Are there threads of communism and socialism, anti-capitalism (and fascism) in all of this? Yes. Of course.

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Also is this party still in operation?

I have no idea, nor do I care.

Wel what do you think took me so long so why roll your eyes?

Well I'm glad you answered. Thank you.

I just don't think he's out to turn this country into a socialist state like some have said.

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Wel what do you think took me so long so why roll your eyes?

Posting other things.

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Well I'm glad you answered. Thank you.

Of course. I answered a similar question for you in another (similar) thread. So...we haven't really gotten very far. I've given you my opinion about Obama. Whoop-di-do.

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I just don't think he's out to turn this country into a socialist state like some have said.

I do. The evidence seems to be with me on this.

No really I'm serious I was having difficulty. What would it profit me to lie about this?

As to your opinion and mine I suppose that will never change.

But hypothetically what if 4 years from now the country was doing great?

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It's just another case of you trying to cloud the issue SDW. You brought up 8 cents a gallon like that was their profit because of their tax. It sounds really small doesn't it?  But as we all know that's misleading as they have quite a large profit. You can go over this as many times as you want. But it's simply not going to change. I'll admit however given the way you tend to think perhaps that's the only way you can see it.

There you go again...inferring hidden meaning where none was intended.  You might have taken my post to mean that the oil companies only make 8 cents a gallon because of taxes.  But that was not my intended meaning.  I know that, because I didn't write "because of taxes." I merely was stating the widely reported number as COMPARED to taxes.  I also noted that I wasn't certain of the accuracy of said number, because the the data comes from the oil companies themselves.  I then followed up and said that even if the reported data point on profit was three times higher (24 cents a gallon), it would still be far less than the total federal and state taxes per gallon.  The reason I did this was to illustrate the absurdity of a government that profits more from private corporations (in taxes) than the companies who actually explore, extract, refine and transport said goods.  If there was anything implied, it was the question of whether or not you find that above morally acceptable.   So, how about it?