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America's largest wireless carrier by subscribers Verizon has announced that it will be initiating shared data plans later this month, making it the first of the "big-three" U.S. telecoms to offer such a program.

Verizon announced the new "Share Everything" option on Tuesday, which includes unlimited talk, text and tiered shared data plans for both smartphones and tablets as well as data-only plans, is slated to start on June 28.

Up to ten devices can share data under the new plan with varying pricing for device type. For example, line access for a smartphone like Apple's iPhone is $40 per month while a tablet adds on $10. Mobile hotspots are also included in the Share Anything plan and can be added for an additional $20 per month.

The carrier is introducing a number of new data tiers to its existing one-line offerings, and shared data users can now select one of six levels ranging from $50 per month for 1GB of bandwidth to $100 per month for 10GB. Data overage is still in place and looks to be $15 per gigabyte across the board but users can opt to up their data plans in 2GB intervals before reaching their limit.

As an example, Verizon offers a $180 access plan that includes two smartphones at $40 each, one feature phone at $30 and 4GB worth of shared data which carries a cost of $70 per month.

Data-only customers have four tiers to work with starting at $30 per month for 4GB and topping out at $60 per month for 10GB. Mobile hotspots and tablets with mobile hotspot functionality are included in this pricing model.

The new Share Anything plan is a step in the direction of what many believe is the future of wireless in the U.S. In an early June report, AT&T chief executive Randall Stephenson said that his company was also working on rolling out a shared data plan, though that plan has been in the works for over a year.

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Verizon's new Share Anything plan outlined on the company's website. | Source: Verizon


Verizon was recently the target of a media blitz when CFO Fran Shammo said "when [customers] migrate off 3G they will have to go to data share," which caused a fracas because many thought the company would forcibly move unlimited data users to more profitable tiered pricing. The issue was quickly clarified in a Verizon statement that said only customers who choose to take carrier subsidies when upgrading to another smartphone will be forced out of out of their unlimited plans. In either case, it is clear that the telecom is pushing for tiered pricing, a trend that has become increasingly popular as wireless providers acknowledge the profitability of soaring data use.
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If the next iPhone has LTE and this sharing plan can be used with the iPad then I think I'll be jumping to Verizon.

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The ipad is supported however the pricing is a complete rip off unless you use a lot of minutes.  they charge you between 50 and 100 a month for the data plan and then $40 a month for each iphone including primary and 10 a month for each ipad.

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How is this a good thing for consumers? For me to use the same amount of minutes and data, I'd be paying $100 more a month for 2 iPhones. This is a scam. Make it $50/10GB and it'll be a fair deal. Starting at $50 for a single GB? I mean, do they think that's acceptable???
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Just as important: Telcos are killing LTE before it even becomes mainstream. And it's not even good LTE at that.
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Complete garbage. I will not buy an iPhone until it comes to T-Mobile prepaid. I only pay for the minutes I use. The most I pay is $30 a month with texts and minutes left over. I can wait for data use until I get to a location with wifi, or I can use my iPad's LTE connection, which is an additional $20 a month, but I would still be paying only $50. Why do you people pay $90,100, 150, 200 a month for service that is equal to a developing nation? 

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I have an iPhone 4 on AT&T and asked them if I would be kicked off my grandfathered data plan when I upgrade to my next iPhone and they said NO.  Since I'm considering switching to Windows Phone, I asked if that only applied to iPhones and they said it applied to any of their phones, including 4G.  So that's pretty cool of them.

 

Any of you have Sprint?  They're the best deal in town right now and I'm considering them for my next contract.

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Pricing is fukking horrible.  I have an iPhone & iPad.. to have both devices share 1GB of data would be $100 a month.  $100 fukking dollars a month for 1GB of data?!?!?!?!

 

Who gives a damn about unlimited talk & text.  I can do both of those things for free with just the data connection.

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If the next iPhone has LTE and this sharing plan can be used with the iPad then I think I'll be jumping to Verizon.

$110 for unlimited talk/text plus 10GBs of data between iPhone and iPad is pretty good.
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Pricing is fukking horrible.  I have an iPhone & iPad.. to have both devices share 1GB of data would be $100 a month.  $100 fukking dollars a month for 1GB of data?!?!?!?!

Who gives a damn about unlimited talk & text.  I can do both of those things for free with just the data connection.

Huh? 1GB is $50, for $100 you get 10GBs and for an additional $10 you can add your iPad.
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$110 for unlimited talk/text plus 10GBs of data between iPhone and iPad is pretty good.

Where do you get that?

 

10GB of data $100 + iPhone $40 + iPad $10 or $150.00/mo.

 

Add another iPhone add another $40.00 (per device) or $30.00 for feature phone.

 

Then there are the taxes and fees?  What's that?  $10, $15 or $20 more?

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Where do you get that?

10GB of data $100 + iPhone $40 + iPad $10 or $150.00/mo.

Add another iPhone add another $40.00 (per device) or $30.00 for feature phone.

Then there are the taxes and fees?  What's that?  $10, $15 or $20 more?

The first iPhone is included any additional smartphone is $40. Right now I'm paying just under $200 for 2 smartphones and we're sharing 1400 mins, under this plan I'd pay $140, a savings of $60 a month.

Edit: I was mistaken. It is $40 per iPhone/smartphone. It'd still be $20 cheaper for me per month.
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Verizon related topic /

I have had FiOS since the day it was available and it has always been flawless. About six weeks ago it started failing for several hours at a time. THis happens several times a day. We have had a new ONT and a new modem all to no avail. I recently read on June 17th they are doubling the speeds. Forgive me for suspecting a connection here. Today it's gone down three times so far. I look forward to the speed increases and appreciate there is probably a lot of hardware to swap out but it would be really nice if Verizon admitted they are replacing masses of hardware and give us all a months rebate for the month from hell. Not to mention wasting their own technician's time trouble shooting and exchanging hardware.
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Pricing is fukking horrible.  I have an iPhone & iPad.. to have both devices share 1GB of data would be $100 a month.  $100 fukking dollars a month for 1GB of data?!?!?!?!

 

Who gives a damn about unlimited talk & text.  I can do both of those things for free with just the data connection.

I agree. Most of us know we can get by without a cell phone plan. The cell companies force us to take one then gives us less data for MORE money. If people pay it they will charge it. Right now I'm on my iPad, 1gb for 20 bucks and I just make calls on that through Skype when I'm out. Ditched my cell phone and saved myself 80-100 bucks a month. These new pricing plans are just a rip off as well as the old one unless you have unlimited data.

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Walmart has a cheap everything plan 45 bucks a month after you buy the phone..Sir Richards Virgin has a all everything plan. Verizon can kiss my ass and take their crap else wear. Time to boycott Verizon
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The ipad is supported however the pricing is a complete rip off unless you use a lot of minutes.  they charge you between 50 and 100 a month for the data plan and then $40 a month for each iphone including primary and 10 a month for each ipad.

Or save $10/month (and $129 on the purchase) and get a WiFi iPad and use the included hot spot feature on the iPhone.
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I agree. Most of us know we can get by without a cell phone plan. The cell companies force us to take one then gives us less data for MORE money. If people pay it they will charge it. Right now I'm on my iPad, 1gb for 20 bucks and I just make calls on that through Skype when I'm out. Ditched my cell phone and saved myself 80-100 bucks a month. These new pricing plans are just a rip off as well as the old one unless you have unlimited data.

They are forcing unlimited talk & text - When they ADMIT that these are the two of the three services that use is declining! Ugh. They really missed an opportunity. Then again, they are basically setting it up that if you want a subsidized upgrade? This is what you're getting.
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Walmart has a cheap everything plan 45 bucks a month after you buy the phone..Sir Richards Virgin has a all everything plan. Verizon can kiss my ass and take their crap else wear. Time to boycott Verizon

I am considering that, too. Virgin have LTE yet?
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$110 for unlimited talk/text plus 10GBs of data between iPhone and iPad is pretty good.

You guys are getting hosed if you think that's a good price. I pay a lot less than that, and I get unlimited data, tethering, and long distance too.

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You guys are getting hosed if you think that's a good price. I pay a lot less than that, and I get unlimited data, tethering, and long distance too.


If this true and you aren't just blowing smoke, then give us all the details so we can all save.

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Data is data, I am sick of them separating the data based upon usage type or device.  Just charge us $50 a month for 5GB and be done with this crap.  What does it matter if it's talk, text, facebook, music, or tethered to something using talk, text, facebook or music?  It's all the same!  For that matter they should charge us depending upon geography too... oh your in NYC? Data is worth more there....  we're gonna dock you 2GB for every 1GB you use.  Oh you in Vermont now?  Time to recalculate!

 

Someone is rolling in money at the telecoms....

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Correction. First it's $40 smartphone fee then you pay $100 for 10gb before taxes a month. That's BS. I have an iPhone 4 and early upgrade is available in December. I will wait til my contract is very close to ending and get the newest iPhone on Sprint. It may be slower. But I'd rather have slower unlimited data than lightning fast expensive limited data. They can keep that!
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Verizon screwed Apple out of a lot of sales as many people are going to upgrade now just to keep their unlimited plan
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$110 for unlimited talk/text plus 10GBs of data between iPhone and iPad is pretty good.

Yes $110 for 1 user is a decent price, but when you add phone it sucks. For example, our family plan has 4 iPhones and two of them have tethering. We pay about 240 with taxes. With Verizon's pricing we would pay about 280 with taxes. So I can't see the value. I hope people voice their displeasure with Verizon about this. Although, even if they start at a lower price point they will eventually increase it.
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If this true and you aren't just blowing smoke, then give us all the details so we can all save.

Sure, if you want to move here, you can get access to our more extensive Netflix selection too.

 

http://www.mts.ca/mts/personal/wireless/wireless+plans/iphone+plans/unlimited+plus+plan+for+iphone

 

 

Unlimited Plus Plan
 
$69.99 a month, bundled
Unlimited Data in Manitoba
300MB of Canada Wide Data Usage
Unlimited Messaging (SMS/MMS)
350 Weekday Minutes
6pm Evening & Weekend Clock
Unlimited Wi-Fi
Unlimited Tethered Usage in Manitoba
Unlimited local and long distance calling in Manitoba to and from all MTS Wireless customers.
 
 

"Evening and weekend clock" means unlimited phone minutes after 6pm and all all weekend. I work nights and sleep  during the day, so in my case that means literally unlimited minutes. There are roaming charges for use outside of the province, but were talking about a 250,000 sq mi area, so that really only happens when I'm on vacation.

 

 

SaskTel, and other provincial providers have similar rates.

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SolipsismX wrote:

"If the next iPhone has LTE and this sharing plan can be used with the iPad then I think I'll be jumping to Verizon."

 

 

First of all, do some research in your area before switching to Verizon. I hear their data services are fine in some areas like NYC. However down here in south florida they suck. I purchased my new iPad with Verizon service, excited by the promised data speeds. Can't say I'm impressed with them. I can't get a decent connection anywhere I need it (downtown Miami, airport area, Doral, etc.) When I do get a connection it's either blazing fast (extremely rare) or dial-up slow (almost always). There's no in-between.

 

While AT&T can't match Verizon's LTE speeds in areas where they don't yet offer that service, their ubiquitous 3G/4G is an order of magnitude faster anywhere Verizon's LTE drops off. Totally regret getting the Verizon model iPad.

 

Aside from this, what on earth tempts you to switch to Verizon just after they announce this total dick move? They're basically admitting that people need voice and text services less than ever, so in response they're going to force you to switch to a shared service (useless if you don't need a family plan) that bundles an unlimited amount of what you don't need (voice and text) with a dramatically reduced amount of what you need most (data) at a much higher price.

 

I would not switch to Verizon if they offered me an iPhone free of charge.

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I have an iPhone 4 on AT&T and asked them if I would be kicked off my grandfathered data plan when I upgrade to my next iPhone and they said NO.  Since I'm considering switching to Windows Phone, I asked if that only applied to iPhones and they said it applied to any of their phones, including 4G.  So that's pretty cool of them.

 

Any of you have Sprint?  They're the best deal in town right now and I'm considering them for my next contract.

 

Pricing's ok but service sucks.

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$110 for unlimited talk/text plus 10GBs of data between iPhone and iPad is pretty good.

 

No it isn't if you hardly use voice and text and don't want to rely on Verizon's shitty data services for all your mobile devices.

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Or save $10/month (and $129 on the purchase) and get a WiFi iPad and use the included hot spot feature on the iPhone.
They are forcing unlimited talk & text - When they ADMIT that these are the two of the three services that use is declining! Ugh. They really missed an opportunity. Then again, they are basically setting it up that if you want a subsidized upgrade? This is what you're getting.

 

 

Between this new pricing scheme and the real life performance of their data services (if you're not on LTE, you're at dial-up speeds) I would never dream of switching to Verizon.

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Between this new pricing scheme and the real life performance of their data services (if you're not on LTE, you're at dial-up speeds) I would never dream of switching to Verizon.

My experience has been the exact opposite.

 

I have an AT&T iPhone 4, she has a Verizon iPhone 4. I am constantly waiting for my phone to finish showing web pages/facebook updates/upload pictures. She never waits. At Disneyland last week, the majority of the time, my phone didn't even work, while hers was just fine.

 

My AT&T contract is up this month. As soon as the new iPhone comes out, I'll switch to Verizon and I can't wait.

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This new plan sucks.  My current plan is four unlimited iPhones and 700 minutes w/o text.  Cost after discounts is $190.  A new plan would be unlimited minutes and text (little or no value) and 10GB of data for the four lines to share for $240.  I will pay $50 more and get less.  So, over two years, I will pay $1200 more for service.  If I can buy new phones without subsidy, the extra cost is $450 x 4 or $1800.  Does anyone know if you can go from 3g to LTE after 6-28-12 and keep the unlimited or do we all have to use an android for the next few months?  The more I think about this, the more I think I want to just dump Verizon.  I have two other lines with unlimited LTE and am using the sim cards in iPads and my data use per month is over ten gigs each. 

 

Questions:

  1) Will Verizon let us go from the iPhone 4S to iPhone 5 (LTE) and keep our unlimited data?

  2) Will Verizon throttle us that still have unlimited data?

  3) Will Verizon allow those of us who have unlimited data to keep the unlimited data after any two year commitment is up?

  4) If you have two family plans, can you keep on old plan for one group and get one new one for the second group?

  5) Who might be a better service provider?  Hey I just want my iPhone.  I am glad it does not have any stupid carrier name stamped on it. The iPhone is mine, not Verizon's, Sprints' or AT&T's.

 

If Apple had their own telecommunications service, how many of us would dump our current provider?

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Wow - what a disappointment this "shared" plan turned out to be!

 

I have an iPhone 4S and a Verizon iPad 3. Last month I used 0.2% of the data on the iPhone since I'm almost always within range of wireless. So I'm thinking that when a shared plan is rolled out my current 2 gigs of data could also be available for my iPad, you know, SHARED. How very very different Verizon's actual plan is from my idea of how "sharing" would work me.

 

It's very clear that Verizon has engineered this with expensive, small shared data, knowing that very often someone in the plan will go over the limit. 2 gigs shared within a family is unrealistic. The kind of angst this will trigger between people sharing the data and the blame that will assigned to the guilty parties who cause overages will make this anything but "family friendly".

 

When my contract is up, I'm looking elsewhere, and am grateful Apple put both cell radios in the 4S.

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This new plan sucks.  My current plan is four unlimited iPhones and 700 minutes w/o text.  Cost after discounts is $190.  A new plan would be unlimited minutes and text (little or no value) and 10GB of data for the four lines to share for $240.  I will pay $50 more and get less.  So, over two years, I will pay $1200 more for service.  If I can buy new phones without subsidy, the extra cost is $450 x 4 or $1800.  Does anyone know if you can go from 3g to LTE after 6-28-12 and keep the unlimited or do we all have to use an android for the next few months?  The more I think about this, the more I think I want to just dump Verizon.  I have two other lines with unlimited LTE and am using the sim cards in iPads and my data use per month is over ten gigs each. 

 

Questions:

  1) Will Verizon let us go from the iPhone 4S to iPhone 5 (LTE) and keep our unlimited data?

  2) Will Verizon throttle us that still have unlimited data?

  3) Will Verizon allow those of us who have unlimited data to keep the unlimited data after any two year commitment is up?

  4) If you have two family plans, can you keep on old plan for one group and get one new one for the second group?

  5) Who might be a better service provider?  Hey I just want my iPhone.  I am glad it does not have any stupid carrier name stamped on it. The iPhone is mine, not Verizon's, Sprints' or AT&T's.

 

If Apple had their own telecommunications service, how many of us would dump our current provider?

1) Yes. -- IF you pay the full, non-subsidized price for the new iPhone.

2) I am sure. They haven't said that "top 5%" rule is gone. Though in reality, they throttle towers, so it may or may not affect you.

3) Yes. -- The only time you give it up is when you want to get a subsidized phone.

4) Who knows. Logic says "Why not? (following the rules above) but who knows.

5) Part of me is thinking seriously about going to Virgin. Even with the new iPhone, if it is LTE, they won't be, but $60/month for two iPhones, might be worth it.

Virgin  $60/month times 24 months = $1,440. Add in the $650 for each 16 GB iPhone ($1,300) TOTAL: $2,740 over 24 months.

Verizon  $150/month times 24 months (4GB shared) = $3,600. Add in the $200 for each 16 GB iPhone ($400) TOTAL: $4,000 over 24 months. That is $1,260 MORE THAN Virgin!!!

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I sure hope ATT is taking notes of this debacle for when they announce their shared plan.
 

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I sure hope ATT is taking notes of this debacle for when they announce their shared plan.

Yep. They're making absolutely certain not to repeat the same mistakes Verizon is making…

…by charging $5 more for each part of the service.

Adding a tablet is $15. Smartphones are $45. Et cetera. lol.gif

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1) Yes. -- IF you pay the full, non-subsidized price for the new iPhone.

2) I am sure. They haven't said that "top 5%" rule is gone. Though in reality, they throttle towers, so it may or may not affect you.

3) Yes. -- The only time you give it up is when you want to get a subsidized phone.

4) Who knows. Logic says "Why not? (following the rules above) but who knows.

5) Part of me is thinking seriously about going to Virgin. Even with the new iPhone, if it is LTE, they won't be, but $60/month for two iPhones, might be worth it.

Virgin  $60/month times 24 months = $1,440. Add in the $650 for each 16 GB iPhone ($1,300) TOTAL: $2,740 over 24 months.

Verizon  $150/month times 24 months (4GB shared) = $3,600. Add in the $200 for each 16 GB iPhone ($400) TOTAL: $4,000 over 24 months. That is $1,260 MORE THAN Virgin!!!

 

Thanks for the input. I said the hell with it and ported my numbers to AT&T. I could not justify paying a bunch of $ to Verizon. I am an iPhone user and who provides me the best service and price gets my money.
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My experience has been the exact opposite.

 

I have an AT&T iPhone 4, she has a Verizon iPhone 4. I am constantly waiting for my phone to finish showing web pages/facebook updates/upload pictures. She never waits. At Disneyland last week, the majority of the time, my phone didn't even work, while hers was just fine.

 

My AT&T contract is up this month. As soon as the new iPhone comes out, I'll switch to Verizon and I can't wait.

 

Sounds like you're in California. Everything I wrote was specific to south florida, but with the caveat that everyone should research relative service quality from both providers in their respective areas.

 

As I mentioned in NYC, perhaps also on the west cosat, Verizon is better. Not good, just better in comparison because ATT sucks so bad in those places.

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