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post #41 of 46
6/13/12 at 12:30pm
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Originally Posted by bryanyc1 View Post

Have you seen the display?  I'm betting not.  I saw it today and its drop dead, and this from a guy who only uses matte screens like on my 2010 macbook pro.  If you see the screen, thats it.  They got that right.

I read the screen is 75% less reflective than current glossy screens. I very much dislike glossy screens, therefore I bought the 30'' ACD when it was EOL-ed. Would you say the new MBP is way less reflective than the latest iPad? If so, I might just buy that laptop, as I don't like the reflectiveness on the iPad, in spite of the fact it being such a fantastic device.
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That's what I want to hear! I love my matte display on my old MacBook Pro. Does the new display, even as glossy, still reflect as little light as a matte finish, as I've read? That would be fantastic. I love my new iPad, but I don't like the way I can use it as a mirror.

Hmm, I'm not alone here. Thank god zuncx (sp?) hasn't posted.
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post #42 of 46
6/13/12 at 12:54pm

Popped into Westfield in London today to have a play on the new Retina MacBook Pro. Unfortunately, there were none on show!

 

I asked an assistant when they would be expecting a demo unit and I was told early next week. Very surprised by that. I m,ay have to check out Regents Street store...

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post #43 of 46
6/13/12 at 4:06pm
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Originally Posted by s.metcalf View Post

Since I'm in no particular rush, I've resolved to wait until Apple completes its next-generation portable lineup by adding 13" and 17" models and then I'll get a 13" retina MBP.  This is bound to happen, it's just that Apple has a history of releasing the 15" first and following with other models as it did with the original PowerBook G4s and MacBook Pros.  They do this for clever (albeit frustrating) marketing reasons.

I don't think Apple will redesign the 17" MacBook Pro at all. They've even eliminated the 17" MacBook Pro from the Online Store. I believe it's not even available at any Apple Store either, though I don't know what they'll do with the leftover stock (sell to third party sellers?).

The reason I believe they introduce the 15" MacBook Pros first is because they don't sell as many of them (though the new Retina MBP are shipping in 3-4 weeks now), and they want more time to build up stock before introducing the higher volume selling 13" MacBook Pros. I suppose it could be for marketing reasons, because the 15" MacBook Pros have always been the "top of the line" MacBook Pros, even though they cost up to twice as much.

Especially the New Retina MacBook Pros are near twice the cost of the respective "Better" and "Best" models. (87% more for the Best over the 13" MBP, and 83% more for the Better over the 13" MBP). I bet the BTO Retina "Best" model costs more than twice the cost than the BTO 13" MBP. With a quick check – the new Retina "Best" with the same RAM and Storage amount is 2.37 times (137%) more expensive than the 13" "Best", (although it's HDD vs SSD).
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post #44 of 46
6/14/12 at 5:53pm
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Originally Posted by gatortpk View Post

The reason I believe they introduce the 15" MacBook Pros first is because they don't sell as many of them (though the new Retina MBP are shipping in 3-4 weeks now), and they want more time to build up stock before introducing the higher volume selling 13" MacBook Pros.

Actually, there is no real data on the percentage sold by size. There was one rumor a while back which indicated that the split was something like 50% 13", 47% 15", and 3% 17". (personally, I'd be surprised if the 17" was really that low, but I don't have any other data). So the volume of 13" and 15" is roughly equal.
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post #45 of 46
6/17/12 at 8:25pm
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The reason I believe they introduce the 15" MacBook Pros first is because they don't sell as many of them

 

I could be wrong, but in this particular case I'm guessing it has more to do with the size of battery it takes to drive one of these displays for a reasonable number of hours.

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post #46 of 46
6/17/12 at 8:37pm
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I could be wrong, but in this particular case I'm guessing it has more to do with the size of battery it takes to drive one of these displays for a reasonable number of hours.

It's speculation at this point but I think the answer is a combination of many factors. The 15" at 5 million pixels requires a certain level of GPU power and battery size that require a certain size chassis for all these components and their cooling without feeling like they are taking a step backward.

The 13" MBP has historically had an iGPU which i'm not sure would be effective for this display for playing back Full HD video. Then there is the battery size, as you note, which needs to be large enough to keep the usability as good. If that means the device has to be thicker than the current model does it make sense at this point? We've seen the iPad increase in thickness and weight for the Retina Display.

I think it's possible that diseconomy of scale could be a reason but I think it's less significant than the other technical reasons.

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