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TPP (Trans-Pacific Partnership) Documents Leaked.

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Most of you have probably been wondering what's in the TPP, but also thinking it should be like Obama campaigned on, that being approximately like this-

 

 

  • Promise of enforceable international labor and environmental standards.
  • Promise that no future bilateral agreements “will stop the government from protecting the environment, food safety, or the health of its citizens; give greater rights to foreign investors than to U.S. investors; require the privatization of our vital public services; or prevent developing country governments from adopting humanitarian licensing policies to improve access to life-saving medications.”
  • Promise to stand firm against bilateral agreements that fail to live up to these benchmarks, with commitment to strive to achieve them in the multilateral framework. ~  http://www.citizenstrade.org/ctc/activist-resources/president-barack-obama-on-trade-issues/

But according to the leaked documents the TPP is looking quite different-

 

 

• Limit how U.S. federal and state officials could regulate foreign firms operating within U.S. boundaries, with requirements to provide them greater rights than domestic firms.

• Extend the incentives for U.S. firms to offshore investment and jobs to lower-wage countries.

• Establish a two-track legal system that gives foreign firms new rights to skirt U.S. courts and laws, directly sue the U.S. government before foreign tribunals and

• Demand compensation for financial, health, environmental, land use and other laws they claim undermine their TPP privileges.

• Allow foreign firms to demand compensation for the costs of complying with U.S. financial or environmental regulations that apply equally to domestic and foreign firms.

"We are signing away not just our democratic right to make our own laws, but also the integrity of our judicial system and its ability to function according to our Constitution and legal norms." ~ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ian-fletcher/leak-cracks-open-transpac_b_1594675.html

 

A fuller explanation here- http://www.citizen.org/documents/Leaked-TPP-Investment-Analysis.pdf

"The TPP may well be the last trade agreement that the U.S. negotiates. This is because the TPP, if completed, would have a new feature: it would be open for any other country to later join. TPP offered an opportunity to develop a new trade agreement model that could deliver the benefits of expanded trade without undermining signatory nations’ domestic public interest policies or establishing special privileges for foreign corporations. President Obama campaigned on fixing these investment rules to protect the public interest.1 Unfortunately, Public Citizen’s analysis of this text shows that the U.S. positions do not reflect the changes that candidate Obama pledged to remedy this regime’s threats."

 

"Trans-Pacific negotiations have been taking place throughout the Obama presidency. The deal is strongly supported by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the top lobbying group for American corporations. Obama's Republican opponent in the 2012 presidential elections, Mitt Romney, has urged the U.S. to finalize the deal as soon as possible."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/13/obama-trade-document-leak_n_1592593.html

 



"In early June, a tribunal at the World Bank agreed to hear a case involving similar foreign investment standards, in which El Salvador banned cyanide-based gold mining on the basis of objections from the Catholic Church and environmental activists. If the World Bank rules against El Salvador, it could overturn the nation's domestic laws at the behest of a foreign corporation."

Your thoughts?


Edited by Hands Sandon - 6/14/12 at 4:04am
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Why is Romney so fast to close this deal? What is it in for him?
 

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Why is Romney so fast to close this deal? What is it in for him?
 

Because it makes corporations write countries laws that would have to be followed, wherever they want to impose their will. That's Romney through and through. 

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Why am I not surprised. A government run by the corporations for the corporations. The USA is being sold to the lowest bidder, and it doesn't matter whether the package has a Democrat or Republican stamp on it. This is the great illusion of our times.

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Why am I not surprised. A government run by the corporations for the corporations. The USA is being sold to the lowest bidder, and it doesn't matter whether the package has a Democrat or Republican stamp on it. This is the great illusion of our times.

Where I am in the UK, the government helped get themselves elected by saying they'd cut back on the surveillance of society and now they just announced they want to give the inland revenue, police etc all of our online activity including all emails. They're going to force all internet providers to record everything. I remember not very long ago an audience all cheering and clapping at reducing these government powers. What a farce.

 

The article- 

 

The former Tory shadow home secretary David Davis accused the home secretary, Theresa May, of proposing an "incredibly intrusive'' scheme that was exactly the same as the proposal David Cameron had attacked when Labour proposed it in office.

 

May, in turn, branded the scheme's critics "conspiracy theorists", risking an even deeper breach with her own party's libertarian wing over the plan.

"This is exactly the same thing that Labour proposed in 2009. They went from a central database to this and we attacked it fiercely. In fact, David Cameron attacked it," said Davis, referring to a period when the Conservatives were campaigning against the spread of the "surveillance society".

He said serious criminals would quickly find other ways to communicate and the only people it would catch were the innocent and the incompetent.

"It's not content, but it's incredibly intrusive," Davis told BBC Radio 4's Today programme. "If they really want to do things like this – and we all accept they use data to catch criminals – get a warrant. Get a judge to sign a warrant, not the guy at the next desk, not somebody else in the same organisation."

~ http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/jun/14/online-snooping-home-office-cost

 

So David Cameron was a "conspiracy theorist".


Edited by Hands Sandon - 6/14/12 at 9:34am
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