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IF Microsoft is truly honest with itself, they will realize that the consumer market is all tied up... for now at least... by Apple and Google. What neither of those competitors (include RIM here as well) have... or are going to have any time soon... is the deep reach into the backrooms of the enterprise that MS does.

Considering how blatantly Microsoft has attempted to copy the Apple Store with those Microsoft Stores, I think being honest with themselves was out of the question years ago.

The best way for Microsoft to try and compete with the iPad, is to do the things the iPad does, but better. Not throw everything but the kitchen sink into windows 8 - alas, I think it's too late for that.
post #122 of 147
thats a good point . to compete they have to go to a whole new level of specs.
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Originally Posted by Mike Fix View Post

They have the slowest photocopiers.

 

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Originally Posted by Satorical View Post

Exactly. 

 

One word: Zune.

 

Oh I don't know, I think Microsoft has a few successful brands here and there.. Have you heard of Windows? Or Xbox?

post #124 of 147

I'm sure Apple is quivering. This meme of 'X product to take on i-Product' is hilariously consistent in its results. 

post #125 of 147
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


I've seen Windows tablets with dedicated, physical Control+Alt+Delete buttons. You press the button and it's the same as that key combo.
And no one seemed to notice the problem with this being NECESSARY on a shipping device.

The combination is Home Key + Power. This is only used for enterprises and corporations that's OPTIONAL. On a consumer tablet, this is never needed.

post #126 of 147
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Originally Posted by KevinN206 View Post

On a consumer tablet, this is never needed.

Until the system freezes and you need to quit an application.
post #127 of 147
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Originally Posted by MJBauer View Post

It will have to, how else will you restart it when it locks up?
 

It has to have a Crtl, Alt, Delete key sequence.

Yeah kinda like how the iPad and iPhone never need to be forced restarting.

 

How does the iPhone & iPad restart from a lockup? 

 

Hint: Hold down Power + Home key until it restarts.

post #128 of 147
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Until the system freezes and you need to quit an application.

The combination is for Windows 8 with Intel processor. The combination is not intended to "force a restart". It exposes six options: Lock, Switch User, Sign out, Task Manager, Accessibility, and Power. The quickest way to unfreeze the system is to force a system restart. All tablets & phones these days have this built-in at the hardware level.

post #129 of 147
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Originally Posted by KevinN206 View Post

The combination is for Windows 8 with Intel processor. The combination is not intended to "force a restart". It exposes six options: Lock, Switch User, Sign out, Task Manager, Accessibility, and Power. The quickest way to unfreeze the system is to force a system restart. All tablets & phones these days have this built-in at the hardware level.

Why would I want to do that when there's a feature built into the OS on the device designed so I don't have to do that?
post #130 of 147
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The combination is for Windows 8 with Intel processor. The combination is not intended to "force a restart". It exposes six options: Lock, Switch User, Sign out, Task Manager, Accessibility, and Power. The quickest way to unfreeze the system is to force a system restart. All tablets & phones these days have this built-in at the hardware level.

Windows 8-RT have a hardware reset. When you throw the damn thing across the room the accelerometer senses the frustration and restarts the device and wipes all the memory.

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post #131 of 147
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Windows 8-RT have a hardware reset. When you throw the damn thing across the room the accelerometer senses the frustration and restarts the device and wipes all the memory.

Are we sure you don't have to open up the tablets, remove and then reseat the battery, and while you're in there reseat the RAM, HDD drive, CPU, GPU, the ports daughter board, etc. because only Apple hates their customers enough to actually make items that can't be replaced by DIYers¡

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post #132 of 147
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Originally Posted by JerrySwitched26 View Post

 

 

That is one horrible UI.  Nothing but similar looking blocks, and LOTS of wasted screen space.  

 

I wonder if it can be configured to be better though?  Is this just the "Stock" arrangement, color scheme, etc?

You can customize the home screen (start screen) by YOUR preferences. When you first create an account, you are asked to choose:

 

1. Background (theme) color

2. Background style

 

Again, it makes no sense to judge this based on SOMEONE'S else settings. Once you set it up to your life, then you'll see it makes a lot of sense. Do you realize that the iPad home screen can hold 25 icons at any given time? The Windows 8 home screen can hold about 40! You are right, that's a lot of wasted space!

 

And since it supports multiple accounts, your spouse can have his/her own sets of apps. Or someone borrowing it to use the Internet can log into a "guest" account for web browsing without access to your personal stuff (emails, calendars, etc...).

post #133 of 147
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Originally Posted by OldMacGuy View Post

It will come with viruses preloaded, and a BSOD as its default desktop wallpaper, no doubt. But, it will certainly be a wond'rous thing for the Apple haters to behold.


It seems to be even better thing for Microsoft haters around here...

post #134 of 147
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Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

I'm not really feeling those huge tiles on the screen, not to mention the disgusting colors which might cause seizures in certain people. The tablet might be useful for bulimic people though and they should definitely check it out.

 

Since I'm not a retard, I'm not in pre school, and I also have good taste, I will regretfully have to pass on this tablet, as I am obviously not part of their intended demographic.

What you said is pretty much the same as some shallow Apple-hater saying something like "Since I'm not gay, I will regretfully have to pass on this Apple product"... which would be just as lame, shallow and tasteless as what you said up there...

post #135 of 147
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Originally Posted by Macky the Macky View Post

Now THAT would be what Ballmer will claim it will do... What they ship will be a wholly lesser product. Remember, MS always ships beta products. Remember the high failure rate of the early Xboxes?? Remember the blue screen of death, or the red ring of death? Remember the Zune and the Kin?

 

Remember, "I'm sorry Dave, I can't do that?"


Just so, remember every new Apple generation having issues with screens, graphics, HDD motion sensors, optical drives, overheating, signal reception..? In a dynamic market like this, when sometimes being first is being best, this is normal, unfortunately. For me, it is much more interesting how is MS going to rectify problem once it emerges. Nokia did great job with Lumia 900 wifi problem, but then, in their position, Nokia hasn't got much choice but to suck-up to anyone they can. MS probably doesn't have to go that far, not to mention Apple who can simply say "you're holding it wrong"/

post #136 of 147
And all those fun Vista launch parties. Now that was an OS to remember.
post #137 of 147

I am so laughing my butt off.  Since day one Microsoft has yet to truly do anything that could even remotely be mistaken for innovation.  They've been a copy cat since day one.  Or buy someone and destroy the market (remember Netscape/IE wars?). 

 

Have you ever seen them go out on a limb and create something nobody else has?

 

I can't help but wonder if their days are finally numbered.  I'd rather use iWork or OpenOffice over MS Office and I avoid using Windows machines like the plague.  Their browser is and has been nothing but a constant headache for web developers like myself, and the number of backdoors in all their software quite frankly give me the creeps.

 

Oh well.... if you want to torture yourself be their customer.

 

I think another poster had a great name.... ZunePad..... I wonder if it will also "squirt" like the Zune did...supposedly (never bought one... yuck).

 

Steve Ballmer.... Bill Gates..... despite your Billions you'll never be cool, and your ideas are LAME.  Great marketing has carried you far but I think the road is coming to an end.

post #138 of 147

It will be the first tablet computer to come preloaded with your choice of over 3,256,473 viruses..... I mean Apps.  Will also come with the new face plant app that hears (and sometimes accidentally takes pictures) toilet flushes and automatically posts that you just went to the potty.

post #139 of 147
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Originally Posted by Zaphodsplanet View Post

I am so laughing my butt off.  Since day one Microsoft has yet to truly do anything that could even remotely be mistaken for innovation.  They've been a copy cat since day one.  Or buy someone and destroy the market (remember Netscape/IE wars?). 

Have you ever seen them go out on a limb and create something nobody else has?

That's not entirely fair. Microsoft's innovations have, perhaps, been somewhat limited given the size of the company and the money they've invested in research, but it's not true to say they've done nothing new. Kinect was actually a decent change from what came before. Surface wasn't bad, although they didn't find reasonable applications for it.

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Just so, remember every new Apple generation having issues with screens, graphics, HDD motion sensors, optical drives, overheating, signal reception..? In a dynamic market like this, when sometimes being first is being best, this is normal, unfortunately. For me, it is much more interesting how is MS going to rectify problem once it emerges. Nokia did great job with Lumia 900 wifi problem, but then, in their position, Nokia hasn't got much choice but to suck-up to anyone they can. MS probably doesn't have to go that far, not to mention Apple who can simply say "you're holding it wrong"/

Every new Apple generation had issues? That's nonsense. Oh, yes, every consumer device manufactured by the millions has an occasional problem, but that's what warranties are for. But your post suggests significant problems with every new Apple product - and that's just nonsense.
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post #140 of 147
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Originally Posted by drblank View Post

The problem is that the OS sucks.  Get a clue Microsoft.  

I don't know whether their OS sucks or not, but at least it's a quite different approach than Apple's.  If they had directly copied Apple, like almost everyone else has, we'd be complaining about that.   Frankly, I hope they come out with something that does work well even though the chances of me buying it are very close to zero.   You need strong competition to work against Apple's sometimes arrogant attitude.    

post #141 of 147

Please God, let them call it the "ZuneTab" and boast that is the iPad killer.

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It's a bit dated, but I still get a kick out of this Windows/OS X comparison..

 

 

Can't wait to see Window's tablet "innovations", their other "original" products having done so well.


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post #143 of 147
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Originally Posted by Zaphodsplanet View Post

I can't help but wonder if their days are finally numbered.  I'd rather use iWork or OpenOffice over MS Office and I avoid using Windows machines like the plague.
iWork? Really? It's a nice effort by apple but is only really comparable to the free version of office in terms of features. So yeah apple may beat a product Microsoft gives away for free.
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Steve Ballmer.... Bill Gates..... despite your Billions you'll never be cool, and your ideas are LAME.  Great marketing has carried you far but I think the road is coming to an end.  This is getting as bad as listing to Obama try to make excuses for being an idiot and thinking his Marxist ideas are actually good ones that work.
Now that's just not true. When have Microsoft ever made a good advert?
post #144 of 147
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Originally Posted by timgriff84 View Post

Now that's just not true. When have Microsoft ever made a good advert?

I liked the Windows 7 House Party set. Those were almost as good as the "Martinettis' Performa" series.
post #145 of 147
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Originally Posted by kotatsu View Post

 

 

Oh I don't know, I think Microsoft has a few successful brands here and there.. Have you heard of Windows? Or Xbox?

I'm pretty sure the Xbox division has yet to make a profit after all these years.  You left out the most important franchise:  Microsoft Office.

post #146 of 147

Microsoft blazes new trails once again...

 

post #147 of 147
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Originally Posted by richsadams View Post

Microsoft blazes new trails once again...

Steve's looking down and cracking up.

Particularly at Ballmer's "intersection" quip.
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