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Quality control and cost management efforts in Apple's overseas supply chain has been an even greater focus for the company under Chief Executive Tim Cook, according to a new report.

Supply chain sources from the Far East indicated to DigiTimes that Apple has "adopted even stricter management over its supply chain than before," a report published on Monday reveals. The changes include more frequent inspections, greater time spent on inspections, and a renewed focus on managing costs and product quality.

All of Apple's suppliers are being "heavily evaluated," the report said, as Apple has placed particular focus on the performance of its supply chain over the last six months.

In one example, Apple reportedly discovered a fingerprint mistakenly printed on one internal component from Apple's latest MacBook lineup. Upon discovering the error, the company allegedly demanded a recheck of its entire production line to resolve the issue.

Apple's new, stricter approach is said to be a "challenge" for production line management at suppliers. Monday's report also said that it is expected to set a new threshold for companies that might attempt to enter into Apple's supply chain.

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Cook's ability to ensure Apple's supply chain runs smoothly and efficiently was known as one of his hallmarks well before he took over as CEO of Apple full-time last August. Apple co-founder Steve Jobs originally brought in Cook to make the supply chain leaner and more agile, with limited overstock of inventory.

When Cook initially took over Apple's supply chain, he cut down the number of component suppliers from 100 to 24, forcing companies to compete for Apple's business. He also shut down 10 of the 19 Apple warehouses to limit overstocking, and by September of 1998 inventory was down from a month to only six days.

Earlier this year, Cook even personally visited an iPhone production plant in Zhengzhou, China, run by Foxconn. The trip came as Apple faced media scrutiny over working conditions in its overseas supply chain.
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If they had done this sooner, would Apple have included a better camera in the NEW IPAD (ipad 3)???  they used they same camera's as the iphone 4, not even iphone 4S.   yes they used 1 1/2 year old parts.  Which is a major slight to consumers hoping for quality and up to date tech.

Maybe Apple thought that a true mobile device like the iPhone deserves the latest & greatest camera, whilst the iPad will surely be used less as a camera and therefore would justify a lower-end one?
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This is excellent news. I suspect this will one thing Apple do that their copy cat, so called competition, won't by emulating.
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Tim Cook was responsible for Apple shutting down most American manufacturing by Apple. His expertise in offshoring manufacturing is responsible for Foxconn grabbing the lions share of Apple's manufacturing work.   Suicides and a massive amount of job losses at areas prior made in western nations.

Apple's "cracking down" on supply chain management is hardly a novel idea, cut down the amount of ordering to keep inventories under check.  ie order what you think you are really going to make computers, ipads, iphones, etc.

If they had done this sooner, would Apple have included a better camera in the NEW IPAD (ipad 3)???  they used they same camera's as the iphone 4, not even iphone 4S.   yes they used 1 1/2 year old parts.  Which is a major slight to consumers hoping for quality and up to date tech.

I know Tim Cook is a decent guy, but remember his history is really a background in Worldwide Corporate Materials... ie he moved manufacturing to China.  So... its important to know who is really leading Apple at this point.   Simply put.... his priority was making things cheap and keeping them cheap. at all costs, which has included factories in china which are very questionable at best and some believe are modern equivilent of slave camps.

This is, of course, nonsense. Almost everything you say is wrong.

Tim Cook is not responsible for Apple shutting down US manufacture. Global economics and US manufacturing policies caused that. If Tim Cook was solely responsible, why don't HP, Dell, IBM, and everyone else manufacture in the US?

Suicides and massive job losses? Care to document that? Apple has created hundreds of thousands of jobs in the US.

Apple's control of inventories isn't novel? Then how do you explain Apple's incredible 75 inventory turns per year? And how do you explain that Apple's inventory turns are greater than anyone else in the industry (or most other industries, for that matter) by a large margin?

Finally, Cook joined Apple in 1998. By then, the shift from US manufacturing to manufacturing in China was well underway in most industries. More importantly, the improvements in efficiency during the Cook era are a large part of the reason that Apple's still here.

It is extremely juvenile and uninformed to blame one person for the state of US manufacturing.
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I love to see this emphasis. Apple is locking and loading to build products at a much higher scale.   This is very hard and costly to replicate  

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This is excellent news. I suspect this will one thing Apple do that their copy cat, so called competition, won't by emulating.


non-news,  it's kind of sad. Tim Cook takes over leading Apple and then...


No New Mac Pro's

Not much news on desktop computers, leading many professionals to backlash and Apple doing damage control.

 

Rush to "streamline" foreign component procuring.   Yes, the new Apple is akin to global supply chain management.  Hmmm.... you think Apple with squeeze a few extra cents per share a year from this exciting development?  Yes JRagosta, apple can turn over inventory 75 times a year, ie do the modern fast  manufacture and sell. It means the products are in demand. yay. thats a positive.  doesn't mean there isn't a massive cost to apple's manufacturing virtually everything in China.   Remember, with the hundred thousand of jobs in the US Apple has... at least a million have been made elsewhere.  Mark my thoughts, in the next decade Apple's great innovation will be supply chain downsizing.  ie Apple moving to use robots for manufacturing instead of people for "quality control".  Of course robots don't commit suicide or riot when mistreated.... well until AI comes and makes them go Skynet. (Terminator)

 

Hmm, does anyone expect Apple's next exciting announcement to be quarterly TPS reports?

 

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I remember in the past when Steve Jobs would announce a new product and then would say, "it will be available in 2-3 months." This was for pretty much every Apple product they came out with. Now they come out with something new and say it's available today and have stockpiles of them. That's the work of Tim Cook.

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Innovation and operational excellence are not mutually exclusive.  Apple has been the most successful corporation over the past 5-10 years because it excels in both areas.  Keep up the good work.

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non-news,  it's kind of sad. Tim Cook takes over leading Apple and then...


No New Mac Pro's

Not much news on desktop computers, leading many professionals to backlash and Apple doing damage control.

 

Rush to "streamline" foreign component procuring.   Yes, the new Apple is akin to global supply chain management.  Hmmm.... you think Apple with squeeze a few extra cents per share a year from this exciting development?  Yes JRagosta, apple can turn over inventory 75 times a year, ie do the modern fast  manufacture and sell. It means the products are in demand. yay. thats a positive.  doesn't mean there isn't a massive cost to apple's manufacturing virtually everything in China.   Remember, with the hundred thousand of jobs in the US Apple has... at least a million have been made elsewhere.  Mark my thoughts, in the next decade Apple's great innovation will be supply chain downsizing.  ie Apple moving to use robots for manufacturing instead of people for "quality control".  Of course robots don't commit suicide or riot when mistreated.... well until AI comes and makes the world go Skynet.

 

Hmm, does anyone expect Apple's next exciting announcement to be quarterly TPS reports?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy3rjQGc6lA

 

Yes, because when SJ was around the Mac Pro was definitely the focus of the company, right? You don't have a shred of evidence that it wouldnt be the exact same scenario today with anyone else in charge. If it was SJ you would be bashing him as well. What a pathetic troll. As for your last line, most sane, objective, normal people without an axe to grind against Apple found last week's announcements extremely exciting and impressive. 

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the last 2  lines were jokes, if you had a sense of humor you would get that.
 

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Tim Cook was responsible for Apple shutting down most American manufacturing by Apple. His expertise in offshoring manufacturing is responsible for Foxconn grabbing the lions share of Apple's manufacturing work.   Suicides and a massive amount of job losses at areas prior made in western nations.

 

Apple's "cracking down" on supply chain management is hardly a novel idea, cut down the amount of ordering to keep inventories under check.  ie order what you think you are really going to make computers, ipads, iphones, etc.

 

If they had done this sooner, would Apple have included a better camera in the NEW IPAD (ipad 3)???  they used they same camera's as the iphone 4, not even iphone 4S.   yes they used 1 1/2 year old parts.  Which is a major slight to consumers hoping for quality and up to date tech.

 

I know Tim Cook is a decent guy, but remember his history is really a background in Worldwide Corporate Materials... ie he moved manufacturing to China.  So... its important to know who is really leading Apple at this point.   Simply put.... his priority was making things cheap and keeping them cheap. at all costs, which has included factories in china which are very questionable at best and some believe are modern equivilent of slave camps.

 

So much horse-shit in your post, all of it being entirely your imagination, or childish statements which have been thoroughly disproven. Your 'insight' into 'who is leading Apple' at this point is of no use to anyone. Slave camps? Grow the **** up and learn a thing or two before spouting non-stop drivel. 

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non-news,  it's kind of sad. Tim Cook takes over leading Apple and then...


No New Mac Pro's
Not much news on desktop computers, leading many professionals to backlash and Apple doing damage control.


Huh? You are either incredibly naive or ignorant.
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Tim Cook was responsible for Apple shutting down most American manufacturing by Apple. His expertise in offshoring manufacturing is responsible for Foxconn grabbing the lions share of Apple's manufacturing work.   Suicides and a massive amount of job losses at areas prior made in western nations.

 

Please provide references for this claim.

 

Of course, you will not be able to because it is a complete crock.

 

Nice troll.

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…shutting down most American manufacturing… …Suicides… …job losses… …better camera… …slight to consumers… …making things cheap and keeping them cheap at all costs… …slave camps.

And yet you continue to buy Apple products.

How hilarious.

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Some background on Robotic Manufacturing to come, which will hurt human job rates.   no joke, its reality. Even articles on Apple moving towards it.   So if you think it is science fiction, it's reality.  and yes bombastic, but it did get your attention.  The human toll on the move towards robotic manufacturing will lead to ethical crisis in many places.  It isn't far fetched to think some more suicides, lower birthrates, call for population control and more could occur from it.  Just hoping for some intelligent debate, but ill leave this my last post in this topic as some think this is trolling.

 

 

http://seekingalpha.com/article/658711-apple-s-revolutionary-move-into-robotic-manufacturing

 

http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-57400957-264/the-robots-are-coming-better-get-used-to-it/
 

http://www.everything-robotic.com/2012/06/companies-transitioning-from-industrial.html

 

http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/apple-wants-robots-to-make-your-next-iphone.html/

 

http://blogs.computerworld.com/macintosh/20523/wwdc-2012-apples-iphone-and-irobot-supply-chain

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/03/china-factory-robots_n_1566566.html

 

If people don't think that manufacturing by robots will harm humanity in some ways, it is sad.  yes it can bring down price... but at a huge human cost.

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We bought a brand new iMac a few months ago, and it had a HAND PRINT on the glass! Underneath the plastic that you remove from the glass! We never contacted Apple about it, but it's good to see that Apple is cracking down on huge quality control oversights like this.
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Some background on Robotic Manufacturing to come, which will hurt human job rates. no joke, its reality.

A reality that won't be the case for about 50 years, minimum. I'd love extra robot assembly to happen, but it won't be happening for a good long while.
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Because it is. Your other post, at least.
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If people don't think that manufacturing by robots will harm humanity in some ways, it is sad.  yes it can bring down price… but at a huge human cost.

I see no problem with humanity being freed up to perform tasks requisite of a sentient mind rather than the crap that a robot can do.

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This is, of course, nonsense. Almost everything you say is wrong.
Tim Cook is not responsible for Apple shutting down US manufacture. Global economics and US manufacturing policies caused that. If Tim Cook was solely responsible, why don't HP, Dell, IBM, and everyone else manufacture in the US?
Suicides and massive job losses? Care to document that? Apple has created hundreds of thousands of jobs in the US.
Apple's control of inventories isn't novel? Then how do you explain Apple's incredible 75 inventory turns per year? And how do you explain that Apple's inventory turns are greater than anyone else in the industry (or most other industries, for that matter) by a large margin?
Finally, Cook joined Apple in 1998. By then, the shift from US manufacturing to manufacturing in China was well underway in most industries. More importantly, the improvements in efficiency during the Cook era are a large part of the reason that Apple's still here.
It is extremely juvenile and uninformed to blame one person for the state of US manufacturing.

 

 

Tim Cook is the one responsible for shutting down Apple's own manufacturing operations. Apple might have had to do it do it to stay competitive, but that is another matter all together. Further, one of the main reasons Apple did away with its own factories is for accounting purposes. If Apple owns the factories it has to claim unsold inventory at the factory in its books that negatively affects its earning. Since Apple doesn't own the factories, it doesn't have to do this.

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Some background on Robotic Manufacturing to come, which will hurt human job rates.   no joke, its reality. Even articles on Apple moving towards it.   So if you think it is science fiction, it's reality.  and yes bombastic, but it did get your attention.  The human toll on the move towards robotic manufacturing will lead to ethical crisis in many places.  It isn't far fetched to think some more suicides, lower birthrates, call for population control and more could occur from it.  Just hoping for some intelligent debate, but ill leave this my last post in this topic as some think this is trolling

It's ironic that all this push toward fewer hours for employees hurts employees trying to save money. It's not like they can have a 2nd job whilst living on the Foxconn grounds. At least not easily. It's also ironic that those outside China pushing for higher wages for Chinese workers — providing they work at Foxconn on an Apple related assembly line — are helping kill the jobs of the Foxconn worker. At some point these robots will be more cost effective than many of the employees and even if takes years to do every additional human cost for Foxconn and Apple could push them to invest more in robots that would have otherwise gone to people who need a job.

Unfortunately there really is no other way around this. At some point the cost of doing business in China, if a great deal of manual labour is needed, will be too high. I think India will be the next stage followed by varied African nations. Speaking of Africa, it's amazing that people are upset with people willing to work for Foxcoon on their own accord and yet there is a world of people that truly are in dire need of civil rights and basic liberties that are getting ignored. Perhaps they are too un-relatable for us to think about that we only empathise with those that are doing monotonous jobs we, at least, feel we at least feel we've done at some point in our lives.


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Tim Cook is the one responsible for shutting down Apple's own manufacturing operations. Apple might have had to do it do it to stay competitive, but that is another matter all together.

That's a pretty naive statement. If Apple had no choice but to do it, why attack Tim Cook?
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Further, one of the main reasons Apple did away with its own factories is for accounting purposes. If Apple owns the factories it has to claim unsold inventory at the factory in its books that negatively affects its earning. Since Apple doesn't own the factories, it doesn't have to do this.

Sorry, but no one has ever established that. In fact, Tim Cook has specifically stated otherwise - he stated that Apple's manufacturing strategy is based on flexibility and fast response times.
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...lower birthrates, call for population control and more could occur from it...

Oh no, what a horrible idea. I say we double down and shoot for 14 billion.

On a more serious note, the single most undeniable and direct correlation to lowered birth rates is political, educational and economic empowerment of women.

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Tim got upset after he got some sub-standard french fries at the Foxconn cafeteria.

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Oh joy! We have some neo-Luddites among us here.

 

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On a more serious note, the single most undeniable and direct correlation to lowered birth rates is political, educational and economic empowerment of women.

 

Link(s)?

 

From what I've seen it appears that as areas (nations, regions, etc.) begin to prosper economically and become less dependent upon sustenance farming and wealth begins to accumulate birth rates begin to drop.

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Originally Posted by mitchelljd View Post

Some background on Robotic Manufacturing to come, which will hurt human job rates. no joke, its reality.
 
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A reality that won't be the case for about 50 years, minimum. I'd love extra robot assembly to happen, but it won't be happening for a good long while.
 

 

Robotic manufacturing is here already.  Circuit boards have been stuffed with components and soldered robotically for at least 10 years.  CNCing the aluminum bodies of the ipad/mac etc is also essentially a robotic process.  Currently only the final assembly is done by humans.  With design changes even this can be done robotically.

 

Is it going to hurt human job rates?  No doubt it is, but I for one accept this as inevitable so I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.  The age of machines is nigh!!

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Robotic manufacturing is here already.  Circuit boards have been stuffed with components and soldered robotically for at least 10 years.  CNCing the aluminum bodies of the ipad/mac etc is also essentially a robotic process.  Currently only the final assembly is done by humans.  With design changes even this can be done robotically.

 

Is it going to hurt human job rates?  No doubt it is, but I for one accept this as inevitable so I'm not going to lose any sleep over it.  The age of machines is nigh!!

 

Right, but this isn't really anything new at all (nor is the hand-wringing over it). Greater capital investment (tools and machinery) and greater productivity that comes from it is the pathway to greater prosperity.

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On a more serious note, the single most undeniable and direct correlation to lowered birth rates is political, educational and economic empowerment of women.

Then I'd say we need a lot more of that.

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Some background on Robotic Manufacturing to come, which will hurt human job rates.   no joke, its reality. Even articles on Apple moving towards it.   So if you think it is science fiction, it's reality.  and yes bombastic, but it did get your attention.  The human toll on the move towards robotic manufacturing will lead to ethical crisis in many places.  It isn't far fetched to think some more suicides, lower birthrates, call for population control and more could occur from it.  Just hoping for some intelligent debate, but ill leave this my last post in this topic as some think this is trolling.

Thanks for the links, I really hope Apple do this. To be able to get an iMac for half the current price (for example) would just be amazing.

I don't believe they will be able to go fully automated just yet, but that's not what's necessary anyway. All they need is to go 10% automated, then 15% the next year, 20% the next... it will be great. Because of course they will approach it from both sides: as the robots get better, Jonny Ive will also be designing things that are easier for a robot to build, with fewer small parts etc.
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Yes, because when SJ was around the Mac Pro was definitely the focus of the company, right? You don't have a shred of evidence that it wouldnt be the exact same scenario today with anyone else in charge. If it was SJ you would be bashing him as well. What a pathetic troll. As for your last line, most sane, objective, normal people without an axe to grind against Apple found last week's announcements extremely exciting and impressive. 

In support of Slurpy...

 

Please consider that a new product takes months (if not years) of planning. Cutting a product takes a short time but if there's no replacement in the pipeline, the decision to cut must be taken well in advance of the actual cut. It is likely that it was SJ's plan to cut both MacBook Pro 17" and Mac Pro. The fact that there is even talk now of a Mac Pro being released some time next year, I'm guessing, indicates that TC is reversing a SJ direction.

 

TC's first real decision at Apple is likely to (already) have been the reinstatement of a next gen. Mac Pro.

 

Of course, the lack of proper support from Intel in the availability of next gen. multi-processor X-bridge CPUs also plays into this but, IMHO, if there were a redesigned Mac Pro already in the pipeline awaiting CPUs from Intel, we would have seen a "Sandy Bridge" placeholder offering now and not the non-event "upgrade" that we got.

 

Aside and slightly off topic...

I'm sad that a new MBP 17" is not going to be available. I'm hoping that a new 15" MBP plus two chained Thunderbolt displays may make up for the lost screen real-estate (I'm on a 17" MBP + 30" external ATM). I see a lot of professionals very concerned that SJ's no compromise "get it working and get it out the door" attitude may slide and Apple may return to the old (pre SJ) "if we just wait another cycle, we could have a better XXX" may return. Waiting for Intel's Ivy Bridge to become available for a new Mac Pro may be a symptom of this feared syndrome, or it might just be that TC had a lot of reinstating/shuffling to do to get an new Mac Pro into the pipeline.

 

Either way GL TC... we're rooting for you.

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Tim Cook was responsible for Apple shutting down most American manufacturing by Apple. His expertise in offshoring manufacturing is responsible for Foxconn grabbing the lions share of Apple's manufacturing work.   Suicides and a massive amount of job losses at areas prior made in western nations.

 

Apple's "cracking down" on supply chain management is hardly a novel idea, cut down the amount of ordering to keep inventories under check.  ie order what you think you are really going to make computers, ipads, iphones, etc.

 

If they had done this sooner, would Apple have included a better camera in the NEW IPAD (ipad 3)???  they used they same camera's as the iphone 4, not even iphone 4S.   yes they used 1 1/2 year old parts.  Which is a major slight to consumers hoping for quality and up to date tech.

 

I know Tim Cook is a decent guy, but remember his history is really a background in Worldwide Corporate Materials... ie he moved manufacturing to China.  So... its important to know who is really leading Apple at this point.   Simply put.... his priority was making things cheap and keeping them cheap. at all costs, which has included factories in china which are very questionable at best and some believe are modern equivilent of slave camps.

Smartest thing Apple ever did.

 

What was your point?

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Smartest thing Apple ever did.

 

What was your point?

 

I suspect his point might have been that humanity is clearly much worse off because of all these great, relatively inexpensive products Apple has provided us and that thousands of Chinese people are now gainfully employed making them for us instead of toiling away in near poverty in fields just to live.


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If people think that manufacturing in China blindly is good it is sad.  There are countless extra disadvantages to doing so. From macro economic to decisions made on human rights, moving manufacturing to China has lowered costs, but at the same time it has hurt the western world economy, working class and more.


Sorry, i love the products, but i do believe that the US and Canada would be better off if a proportional amount of products were manufactured and assembled here instead of China.  Diversity is great, why not hope for a better future?

 

The home of Tiananmen square, tibet and countless other tragedies is hardly somewhere i love getting products from.
 

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I suspect his point might have been that humanity is clearly much worse off because of all these great, relatively inexpensive products Apple has provided us and that thousands of Chinese people are now gainfully employed making them for us instead of toiling away in near poverty in fields just to live.

Things should work out fine for a few more years. When we start to see fist fights in the Chinese Parliament like Japan and Korea, that is when we will know the Chinese people have become part of the civilized world, but by then manufacturers will have long since moved to greener pastures in some other impoverished third world region.

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The home of Tiananmen square, tibet and countless other tragedies is hardly somewhere i love getting products from.

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If people think that manufacturing in China blindly is good it is sad.

 

I don't think anyone is doing it blindly.

 

 

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There are countless extra disadvantages to doing so. From macro economic to decisions made on human rights, moving manufacturing to China has lowered costs, but at the same time it has hurt the western world economy, working class and more.

 

And there are many advantages. Not the least of which is that hundreds of thousands or millions of Chinese people are being pulled out of poverty by being given the opportunity to work on these products. There is no evidence whatsoever that this has "hurt the western world economy"...you're just making that up.

 

 

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Sorry, i love the products, but i do believe that the US and Canada would be better off if a proportional amount of products were manufactured and assembled here instead of China.  Diversity is great, why not hope for a better future?

 

You can believe that if you want. It doesn't make it so.

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If people don't think that manufacturing by robots will harm humanity in some ways, it is sad.  yes it can bring down price... but at a huge human cost.

 

Based solely on your unassailable opinions, I think we should all remove our wooden shoes and throw them at the robots so as to prevent technological progress...hey...it worked so well for the Dutch in the 15th century!

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Sorry, i love the products, but i do believe that the US and Canada would be better off if a proportional amount of products were manufactured and assembled here instead of China.  Diversity is great, why not hope for a better future?

And the United Kingdom would be better off if a proportional amount of products were manufactured and assembled here instead of China. As would Germany, Russia, India, Ireland, France, Mexico, Australia, New Zealand... But why do something that is incredibly more expensive and less flexible? 

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We bought a brand new iMac a few months ago, and it had a HAND PRINT on the glass! Underneath the plastic that you remove from the glass! We never contacted Apple about it, but it's good to see that Apple is cracking down on huge quality control oversights like this.

You should have taken it to the Apple Store, they would have replaced it for you.

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We bought a brand new iMac a few months ago, and it had a HAND PRINT on the glass! Underneath the plastic that you remove from the glass! We never contacted Apple about it, but it's good to see that Apple is cracking down on huge quality control oversights like this.

 

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You should have taken it to the Apple Store, they would have replaced it for you.

I think he meant on the outside of the glass. It just looks tacky as you are opening your new machine but Windex should fix it. I have what I think you were implying, a hand print on the inside of the glass of my high end kitchen microwave door. You can only see it when the tea kettle steams up the glass. Very aggravating though. If he had the hand print on the inside of the glass he would have to replace it. You couldn't look at that all day, it would drive you crazy.

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From what I've seen it appears that as areas (nations, regions, etc.) begin to prosper economically and become less dependent upon sustenance farming and wealth begins to accumulate birth rates begin to drop.

Historically, that has been true. However, that doesn't mean that it will be true in the future.

Even within developed countries, certain ethnic and religious groups are growing at significant rates even while the population as a whole is stagnant or declining. This will, of course, lead to a change in the ethnic or religious makeup of these countries in the future - as more fundamentalist groups tend to grow while non-fundamentalist groups do not.
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