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post #81 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:30pm
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Originally Posted by Macky the Macky View Post

Hmmm... USB 2.0, certainly not the latest in tech.

From the released specs the window 8 pro version has USB 3, USB 2 is for RT.

 

 

 

Surface for Windows RT

Surface for Windows 8 Pro

OS

Windows RT

Windows 8 Pro

Light(1)

676 g

903 g

Thin(2)

9.3 mm

13.5 mm

Clear

10.6" ClearType HD Display

10.6" ClearType Full HD Display

Energized

31.5 W-h

42 W-h

Connected

microSD, USB 2.0, Micro HD Video,

 2x2 MIMO antennae

microSDXC, USB 3.0,
Mini DisplayPort Video,
2x2 MIMO antennae

Productive

Office '15' Apps, Touch Cover, Type

 Cover

Touch Cover, Type Cover,
Pen with Palm Block

Practical

VaporMg Case & Stand

VaporMg Case & Stand

Configurable

32 GB, 64 GB

64 GB, 128 GB

(1, 2 ) Actual size and weight of the device may vary due to configuration and manufacturing process

 

cf. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/microsoft-announces-surface-family-pcs-233100776.html

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post #82 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:31pm
They don't put much effort in their product design because they just don' t love their products.
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post #83 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:31pm
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Originally Posted by Alfiejr View Post

hey, Jay, tell me you're not an MS astroturf PR contract guy?


No, I'm actually typing this on a Macbook Pro. A 2006 one but a Pro nonetheless. My 4S is inches away.

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post #84 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:31pm

I'm pissing my pants! LOL!

You are crazy!!!!

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post #85 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:32pm
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Originally Posted by asdasd View Post

A USB cable is a very good idea. You know, printing etc.

How is that better then air print??? This IS a portable device. Why tie it down with cables? Why have to go to the room where the printer is located and plug it in? 

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post #86 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:32pm

They aren't competing with Apple so much as their very own OEMs. 

 

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post #87 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:32pm
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Originally Posted by Fayt View Post

Looks great actually.  Not sure why some people here are bashing it.  Does it look similar to an iPad?  Sure.  But it's a very different machine software-wise, and from the looks of it, it'll be much more capable as a laptop replacement with the versatility of a tablet.  That sounds good from where I'm at.

 

 

"From the looks of it..."

 

Exactly... so far all we have are looks.

 

If I was a betting man I'd put odds that this thing will only be, at best, half of what Ballmer is promising. Maybe one day it will be as promised but by then the rest of the crowd will have surpassed it.

 

Ballmer is promising the moon in order to delay some of the iPad orders. I'd venture to say that those who wait will be sadly disappointed.

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post #88 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:32pm

Depending on the specs such as RAM and video chipset, I might have to get this for my wife.

 

This is closer to what I want from a tablet -- a true replacement for the laptop for my professional needs with an optional keyboard, plus I can use it casually in tablet form for web surfing and movies. I would love to see Apple release a tablet-based Mac that I can throw Xcode on. A thinner laptop (e.g. next-generation MacBook Pro) is not exactly what I am looking for. I want to see a tablet that can serve as a true replacement for the laptop.


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post #89 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:32pm
Except for the fact that it runs Windows and not OS X or iOS. That's kinda important.
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post #90 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:33pm
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Originally Posted by Macky the Macky View Post

Hmmm... USB 2.0, certainly not the latest in tech. That is so like MS to do it only partially right. "VaporMag," is this a hint of something that will also not ever make it to market? The product only weights 1.5 pounds... it that before the batteries are included, or is this a desk unit?

 

What level of USB does the new iPad have?

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post #91 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:33pm
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Originally Posted by neiltc13 View Post

 

This is the "Pro" model with the tactile keyboard. Easily a replacement for my MacBook Air. It has an i5 Processor and runs both metro and desktop apps, so I can use it as both a laptop and tablet. Best part is, no syncing, ever.

 

I guess it depends on your requirements but I don't get why anyone would do that? You can buy similar portable keyboards for the iPad. If you want to go Windows wouldn't an Ultrabook be a better option.

 

I just don't buy into the argument that millions of people will replace their laptop with a tablet. I think they have different uses. I use my iPad primarily as an entertainment device whereas my laptop is for work. If I had to chose one or the other I would stick with the laptop but I think most Apple fans will probably buy both.

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post #92 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:34pm
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Originally Posted by Jay Mars View Post

 

Sounds awesome here. Barring poor reviews, I'd easily consider this over the new iPads and MacBooks.

Hey, Jay... I bet you work for Microsoft and are trying to balance the negative comments on this this lame. non-existent, product!

 

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post #93 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:34pm

Price is going to be critical.

 

The keyboard is slick, but nothing we can't get on an iPad

 

I think overall it's a nice package...at $500 tops.

 

Also, this seems to be the very definition of Tim Cook's explanation of compromise when you try to merge a tablet and "PC". Not a negative, but certainly a fact.

 

I really would rather see MSFT do a proper mobile ecosystem between phone and tablet, and not worry so much about windows desktop integration.

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post #94 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:34pm
I don't get these events where you show something off with no price or release date. And what about all the Windows tablets/Ultrabooks Intel showed off a couple weeks ago? With this announcement it's like MS is giving a vote of no confidence to all the OEM's.
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post #95 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:35pm

can anyone tell me what this does better then an ipad or android tablet, or even the BB playbook,   MS late to the dance with nothing new to offer. 

 

Really I there goes 20 minutes of my life ill never get-back.. Ha Ha Ha,   

 

Some press conference, no idea of cost, no idea of when you can buy, no battery life, any 3g or lte

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post #96 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:36pm
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Hey, Jay... I bet you work for Microsoft and are trying to balance the negative comments on this this lame. non-existent, product!

 

I'm grateful for Balmer as CEO... He's done more harm to Microsoft than Apple could ever overtly or covertly produce. Love him!


Just think it's getting a raw deal from fanboys. But this is APPLEinsider so it's to be expected.

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post #97 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:37pm
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Originally Posted by Shaun, UK View Post

 

Not the most flattering photo I bet. Honestly you would think they would get some professional photos done to show on the presentation. I hope it looks better in the flesh.

It's not the photo.  The thing is ugly !!

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post #98 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:37pm
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Originally Posted by Jay Mars View Post

Sounds awesome here. Barring poor reviews, I'd easily consider this over the new iPads and MacBooks.

Remember, this is a Windows Machine. It doesn't run stable UNIX (Darwin) like iPhones, iPod Touches, iPads, and every Mac. iOS and OS X really do have good reviews.

Windows, somehow, doesn't crash very often, but they're not very many Applications for it. (I'm obviously referring to the new Window 8 ARM version, and I don't think there are very many apps for Windows 8 x86 tablets either.)

I like the fact that thousands of Apps are created everyday for my devices, and a new OS comes every year.
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post #99 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:38pm
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Originally Posted by neiltc13 View Post

439

 

This is the "Pro" model with the tactile keyboard. Easily a replacement for my MacBook Air. It has an i5 Processor and runs both metro and desktop apps, so I can use it as both a laptop and tablet. Best part is, no syncing, ever.

same price, less battery, less memory, more fragile, worse keyboard, worse mouse, worse ecosystem (so far), more heat, smaller screen, no OSX and i could go on and on. so the air is better.

 

and the iPad is also better as a tablet.

 

this is the galaxy note of the tablets (compromises). it's up to you to choose, but it will sell.

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post #100 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:38pm
Looks to me as if MS has come out with the single-best tablet out there!

Actually they have come out with two single-best tablets out there.

Way to go MS… Way to commit to a single vision!

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post #101 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:39pm

This Windows tablet is sleek in design and makes the iPad and MacBook Air obsolete. The keyboard is just innovative. The magnetic connector is way ahead of the iPad.

This could have been an Apple product.

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post #102 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:39pm

I wonder if it's possible to install a decent operating system on it...

 

You know, like OS X, albeit a bit 'hackintoshy' and rather naughty in doing so...

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post #103 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:39pm
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Originally Posted by Sensi View Post

From the released specs the window 8 pro version has USB 3, USB 2 is for RT.

 

 

 

Surface for Windows RT

Surface for Windows 8 Pro

OS

Windows RT

Windows 8 Pro

Light(1)

676 g

903 g

Thin(2)

9.3 mm

13.5 mm

Clear

10.6" ClearType HD Display

10.6" ClearType Full HD Display

Energized

31.5 W-h

42 W-h

Connected

microSD, USB 2.0, Micro HD Video,

 2x2 MIMO antennae

microSDXC, USB 3.0,
Mini DisplayPort Video,
2x2 MIMO antennae

Productive

Office '15' Apps, Touch Cover, Type

 Cover

Touch Cover, Type Cover,
Pen with Palm Block

Practical

VaporMg Case & Stand

VaporMg Case & Stand

Configurable

32 GB, 64 GB

64 GB, 128 GB

(1, 2 ) Actual size and weight of the device may vary due to configuration and manufacturing process

 

cf. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/microsoft-announces-surface-family-pcs-233100776.html

they forgot to say, the RT use 18 gig for the OS,, and the Pro uses 40 gig

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post #104 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:40pm
Yeah. It's a tablet on training wheels....
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post #105 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:40pm
It started late, a device failed, there was some odd comments and demos, confusing OS and HW offerings, it gave a complete FU to all other vendors that plan to use Win8, and a lack of info on price and availability.


Conclusion: All is right with the world.


But in all fairness there is a lot I like about the devices shown.

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post #106 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:41pm

how long to boot this thin is there an f8 to safe mode 

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post #107 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:42pm
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Originally Posted by peter236 View Post

This Windows tablet is sleek in design and makes the iPad and MacBook Air obsolete. The keyboard is just innovative. The magnetic connector is way ahead of the iPad.

This could have been an Apple product.

You mean THIS?

 

http://photos.appleinsider.com/12.06.18-Surface-2.jpg

 

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post #108 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:42pm

Zune? No. It's not brown.

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post #109 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:43pm
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Originally Posted by Technarchy View Post

Price is going to be critical.

The keyboard is slick, but nothing we can't get on an iPad

I think overall it's a nice package...at $500 tops.

Also, this seems to be the very definition of Tim Cook's explanation of compromise when you try to merge a tablet and "PC". Not a negative, but certainly a fact.

I really would rather see MSFT do a proper mobile ecosystem between phone and tablet, and not worry so much about windows desktop integration.

I agree with everything here. Especially, the part with Microsoft doing a great job with a phone and a tablet, rather than try to do both on both. If they successfully did that, Apple will only make even better products. Competition is good! I wish there was more of it.
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post #110 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:43pm
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post #111 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:44pm

MS is truly visionary, no one will ever make a product like this....      NOT

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post #112 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:46pm

Is today april 1st because this has to be the biggest joke MS has ever had.. 

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post #113 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:47pm

What's with the hate! This is awesome. It's a tablet and a computer in one device. It's what Apple should have done with a special version of the 11" MacBook Air years ago as soon as iPad became a hit. Things like this and the ASUS PadFone are awesome. 

 

The Win 8 UI looks interesting, I guess. Maybe not the best, then again I haven't used it in person. But the general concept of running REAL apps on a mobile touchscreen is awesome. Also, people want to have a big touchscreen. The Galaxy Note is homerun. I predict the ASUS PadFone will sell well, also. There is another reason. Up until these devices you had to pay extra for tethering. Because you had two devices, a tablet and a computer. Or a phone, tablet, and computer. If you merge all of them, you pay one data plan. Of course I'm sure US carriers will muck this up.  But kudos to Microsoft for innovating, dare I say it. Kinect is awesome. This Surface product looks really awesome, too. Personally I'd rather see an something like the ASUS transformer powered by an Intel mobile chip that can run Windows and MacOS X and Android all one device: a phone that plugs into a tablet which clips onto a keyboard. How sweet would that be!? All your apps everywhere all the time with all your data. The cloud doesn't work so well for large files when you pay per megabyte.

 

I really wonder about battery life, though. Other than that, I think this may possibly be a dark horse that becomes successful. The x86 Surface tab in particular. I imagine businesses will greatly prefer this to having to deal with Apple and iOS.

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post #114 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:47pm
Why is MS doing hardware anyway? Do they not trust Dell, HP, Lenovo, etc to get it right? So they have to release their own hardware which basically is a competitor to all the Wintel OEM's?
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post #115 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:48pm

Its funny going to how many boards and seeing windows fan-boys, mac fan-boys, linux-fanboys than everyone else.

 

Breakdown:

Mac-Can't be better than anything Apple Produces

Windows - Finally better than Apple

Linux- F' all you (thanks linus)

Evey normal person - looks interesting have to wait and see when it comes out and compare it. I'll wait before buying an iPad 3 or this thing. 

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post #116 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:48pm

People are excited by the cover with a keyboard. I wouldn't want one, and here's why. If you fold the cover back so you can walk around with the tablet, you would be constantly pressing the keys on the back. If you take it off, then you have an extra item to carry around. I have neither problem with my iPad smart cover. I realize I'm in the minority, but I actually enjoy typing on the iPad's onscreen keyboard. If I want to do some serious typing, I bring my wireless keyboard which is a real keyboard.

 

The Surface's worst feature is that it's running Windows.

 

Microsoft seems proud that the Surface is a tablet and an ultra-thin. The problem is that they didn't hit the mark on either one. Microsoft always comes close, but they never quite get it right. The Zune was close too.

 

From the back, it's as ugly as Ballmer.

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post #117 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:50pm
I'm sorry but the people in charge of naming MS's garbage needs to be shot! Xbox; dumb but not real bad, Zune; it sounds like a 3 year old trying to say zoo with a mouth full of marshmallows. Now we have"surface". ooooOOOOooooo..... The surface of what? A polished turd? Stupid is as stupid does I guess.
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post #118 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:51pm
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This does not look like something I want to touch.

I have been generally impressed with the whole Surface table project. But this lacks a certain je ne sais quoi. And am I correct that it doesn't work with Smart Glass? That to me would be a huge fail. If you want to really push a new tech your own stuff needs to use it? And if it does use it, hype it.
Edited by charlituna - 6/18/12 at 5:57pm
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post #119 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:51pm

Just watched the promo video at http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en/us/default.aspx - looks like something dreamt up by the director for Lady Gaga's Allejandro video...

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post #120 of 506
6/18/12 at 5:52pm
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Originally Posted by neiltc13 View Post

439

 

This is the "Pro" model with the tactile keyboard. Easily a replacement for my MacBook Air. It has an i5 Processor and runs both metro and desktop apps, so I can use it as both a laptop and tablet. Best part is, no syncing, ever.

 

Go for it. LOL...

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