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iPhone 5 will put Samsung's Galaxy S III to shame, says Foxconn CEO

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Chief Executive Officer Terry Gou of Hon Hai Precision Industry Co., otherwise known as Apple device manufacturer Foxconn, told customers on Monday to disregard Samsung's recently-released Galaxy S III smartphone and wait for the upcoming iPhone 5 instead.

The CEO's bold statement came during Hon Hai's annual stockholder's meeting where Gou mentioned a number of strategies that will allow the company to "beat" Samsung within the next three to five years, reports Focus Taiwan.

Apple's iPhone was only mentioned in passing with Gou saying that "the new model will put Samsung?s Galaxy III to shame," with the main thrust of the message being Foxconn's ambition to overtake Samsung in seemingly every electronics market the South Korean company competes.

To that end Gou noted a strategic alliance with Japanese electronics manufacturer Sharp which will mate cutting-edge technology with Foxconn's prodigious production capacity to yield a product that is three years ahead of anything Samsung can muster. It was revealed in March that Foxconn became Sharp's single largest shareholder after it purchased a 10 percent stake in the Japanese company for $808 million to boost demand for products coming out of the 10th-generation LCD plant in Sakai. That particular factory makes 60-inch and 80-inch class LCD panels and happens to have an exclusive deal with American firm Corning to use its Gorilla Glass in large format applications.

Foxconn will begin operating the Sakai factory on July 1 and the Taiwanese company is said to be in talks to buy more Sharp shares though no official statement has been made regarding the purchase. Gou said that he invested in the Sakai plant with his own money so as not to affect Hon Hai's stock and plans to list the Japanese factory on the Taiwan stock exchange within three years.

The Foxconn and Sharp collaboration fueled speculation that the companies were looking to vie for orders of Apple's rumored HDTV but the claims have yet to be validated.

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According to the China Times, it is Gou's lifetime goal to defeat Samsung, a company that he says has "a track record of snitching on its competitors." The chief executive is referring to the whistleblower role taken by Samsung in the European Commission's 2010 flat-panel price fixing investigation of four Taiwanese companies.

"I respect the Japanese and especially like their execution and communication styles," Gou said. "Unlike the Koreans, they will not hit you from behind."

Gou has been known to be quite outspoken and in May supposedly let slip that Foxconn was prepping its factories for an Apple television order but the report was later denied by the company's PR department.
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Didn't know Foxconnalready had complete and working iPhone 5's to be able to compare against the S3? Or he was jst talking out of his ass. I think it's he later one.
But this guy would say anything negative abot Samsung, regardless if it is true or not.
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Didn't know Foxconnalready had complete and working iPhone 5's to be able to compare against the S3? Or he was jst talking out of his ass. I think it's he later one.
But this guy would say anything negative abot Samsung, regardless if it is true or not.

and why do you think that's the later one? because you are a hater and shouldn't be here (if you were normal)?

samsung=mafia. burn them all.
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and why do you think that's the later one? because you are a hater and shouldn't be here (if you were normal)?
samsung=mafia. burn them all.

Ahh you dont like Samsung? This means you are going to burn all your Apple products containing SAMSUNG components. 

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The iPhone 5 launch (and availability) is at the most probably 3 months away. Apple will likely require millions of handsets on launch date, so it is quite possible that hardware production has already started, and the software install will happen closer to launch date.

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Ahh you dont like Samsung? This means you are going to burn all your Apple products containing SAMSUNG components

 

I can't speak for the OP but this doesn't follow at all.  

 

If I don't want to buy an American car because it's shite, it doesn't necessarily follow that I will only buy a car that doesn't even use parts from the USA.  It's about the design and manufacture of the car/phone.  

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Wow, companies producing the iphone are saying that you should wait for the iphone.

 

LOL

 

Maybe that LOL should bew 120px and bolded.
 

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I can't speak for the OP but this doesn't follow at all.  

 

If I don't want to buy an American car because it's shite, it doesn't necessarily follow that I will only buy a car that doesn't even use parts from the USA.  It's about the design and manufacture of the car/phone.  

Of course it follows perfectly. He obviously has a hatred for Samsung, like so many in this forum, so it would stand to reason that he would not buy a Samsung product or any product using Samsung components.

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Didn't know Foxconnalready had complete and working iPhone 5's to be able to compare against the S3? Or he was jst talking out of his ass. I think it's he later one.
But this guy would say anything negative abot Samsung, regardless if it is true or not.

He also could be speaking on Apple's behalf issuing some FUD to blunt Samsung's sales. 

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"I respect the Japanese and especially like their execution and communication styles," Gou said. "Unlike the Koreans, they will not hit you from behind."

 

 

Nothing like a little casual racism to tell us who the enemy is.

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He also could be speaking on Apple's behalf issuing some FUD to blunt Samsung's sales. 

Exactly.

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Of course it follows perfectly. He obviously has a hatred for Samsung, like so many in this forum, so it would stand to reason that he would not buy a Samsung product or any product using Samsung components.

 

No, he/she just said "Samsung=mafia" and "burn them all" (presumably burn the products, or burn the people).   

 

It was a childish and insulting thing to say but it doesn't seem to me that it implies that he shouldn't be using an iPhone or would purposely not use a product that had Samsung chips in it.  Personally, I hate Google, but that doesn't mean I'm going to not use Safari just because Apple made a deal with (my) hated Google for search.  

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Not a fair comparison anyway. It’s apples and oranges. The New iPhone (5? 6?) should be compared to the 2013 Galaxy S IV Vision2Evolution. Which hasn’t been announced yet, but THAT is the phone that will attempt to clone the New iPhone. It’s just not fair to compare to a Samsung phone that’s still trying to be an iPhone 4.

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He also could be speaking on Apple's behalf issuing some FUD to blunt Samsung's sales. 

 I don't recall ever seeing Apple or any other company associated with then tring to hurt sales of competiting products by promoting Apple vaporware before. Would this a first? 

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To that end Gou noted a strategic alliance with Japanese electronics manufacturer Sharp which will mate cutting-edge technology with Foxconn's prodigious production capacity to yield a product that is three years ahead of anything Samsung can muster. 

 

Three years ahead. In what way? The new iPhone will still come with iOS 6 which already puts the phone behind at least a year when compared to the competition. Currently iOS is falling behind to the tightly packed ICS if we talk strictly about software point of view. God knows what will happen when Google will unveil Jelly Bean. And WP8 to come, I hope Apple make some substantial changes in UI of iOS 7. 

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No, he/she just said "Samsung=mafia" and "burn them all" (presumably burn the products, or burn the people).   

 

It was a childish and insulting thing to say but it doesn't seem to me that it implies that he shouldn't be using an iPhone or would purposely not use a product that had Samsung chips in it.  Personally, I hate Google, but that doesn't mean I'm going to not use Safari just because Apple made a deal with (my) hated Google for search.  

I stand by what I said, if someone proclaims a hatred for something so much then they should stand by what they say and don't use the products, or parts of. This site doesn't work like that though...posters in here want to make big outlandish statements and not back them up.


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Three years ahead. In what way? The new iPhone will still come with iOS 6 which already puts the phone behind at least a year when compared to the competition. Currently iOS is falling behind to the tightly packed ICS if we talk strictly about software point of view. God knows what will happen when Google will unveil Jelly Bean. And WP8 to come, I hope Apple make some substantial changes in UI of iOS 7. 

omg.. lol.  thanks for that.

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BREAKING NEWS: NEW PHONE WILL BE SUBJECTIVELY BETTER THAN LESS NEW PHONE. NEWS AT 8. 

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Three years ahead. In what way? The new iPhone will still come with iOS 6 which already puts the phone behind at least a year when compared to the competition. Currently iOS is falling behind to the tightly packed ICS if we talk strictly about software point of view. God knows what will happen when Google will unveil Jelly Bean. And WP8 to come, I hope Apple make some substantial changes in UI of iOS 7. 

 

Why? The UI of iOS is very functional and understood my tens of millions of users. If they had somehow made a terrible interaction metaphor that people couldn't understand, maybe they would need to go back to the drawing-board, but why surprise and confuse your customers just to have something "new"? This is where Microsoft annoy me because in every major release things get moved around, renamed and reordered. If the original design is strong enough, it can evolve instead of being thrown away, forcing your users to relearn what they already knew how to do. Look at the evolution from MacOS to OS X Lion and then look at Windows 1.0 through Windows 8. Both have gone through significant cosmetic changes as graphics capabilities evolved, but the essential desktop metaphor and usage has been more consistent throughout the Apple lineage.

 

So, given your strong views on user interface and user interaction design, please give us the top five ways you might fix the UI of iOS 7 without alienating and confusing Apple's long-time users.

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I guess he's really been making those workers sweat. Hell, we might get twice as many suicides out of this iphone run, right? And then Apple can improve technology even further through the development of cutting edge patent litigation techniques. Go Apple!

 

To be honest, I don't care how many people die, as long as I get my Apple devices. Suicides are a completely natural thing and suicide statistics that are below most national averages are a wonderful thing, they should be celebrated.

 

So, to address your first point about suicides, who gives a shit, really? Yawn. You should go hold a demonstration somewhere, do something useful instead of trolling an Apple forum. Maybe the proven liar, Mike Daisey can have you as a guest on his show sometime. 

 

And to address your second point, Apple sues because other talentless and no innovation companies constantly copies Apple's trendsetting and industry leading designs. Only a moron wouldn't sue somebody else who was ripping off their products.

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BREAKING NEWS: NEW PHONE WILL BE SUBJECTIVELY BETTER THAN LESS NEW PHONE. NEWS AT 8. 

 

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Not a fair comparison anyway. It’s apples and oranges. The New iPhone (5? 6?) should be compared to the 2013 Galaxy S IV Vision2Evolution. Which hasn’t been announced yet, but THAT is the phone that will attempt to clone the New iPhone. It’s just not fair to compare to a Samsung phone that’s still trying to be an iPhone 4.
Interesting that you say 'clone' considering how much iOs6 is 'cloning' from Android. Hell, iOS5 cloned notification center, or at least the 'look and feel' of it.

Throwing stones in a glass house isn't a good idea. By the way, I own an iP4 and amtyping this on my iPad2. Notice the missing letters in a lot of my words? That is the issue I have with the iDevice keyboard, not to mention Apple predictive word algorith sucks big donkey di....

I don't drink the kool-aid, but I do buy some Apple products that Ifeel are superior to the competition. But the iPhone ain't one of them.
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"I respect the Japanese and especially like their execution and communication styles," Gou said. "Unlike the Koreans, they will not hit you from behind."
 

 

This comment seems particularly astute.

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Ahh you dont like Samsung? This means you are going to burn all your Apple products containing SAMSUNG components. 

 

The reason I personally don't like Samsung COMPLETED PRODUCTS is that, based on my experience, they seem to specialise in planned obsolescence, with almost none of the many products I've bought from them lasting more than a few years.

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The reason I personally don't like Samsung COMPLETED PRODUCTS is that, based on my experience, they seem to specialise in planned obsolescence, with almost none of the many products I've bought from them lasting more than a few years.

You could say the same thing regarding the iPad 1 though as iOS6 is not supported on it and it was only released a couple years ago. Personally the only completed products I would buy from Samsung are their monitors, I just bought one of the business grade monitors for my desk at work and it's quite nice,

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You could say the same thing regarding the iPad 1 though as iOS6 is not supported on it and it was only released a couple years ago. Personally the only completed products I would buy from Samsung are their monitors, I just bought one of the business grade monitors for my desk at work and it's quite nice,

 

I got given a Plasma when I bought this house, so far it's good, it's only a 42" so use it in the spare room.

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Nothing like a little casual racism to tell us who the enemy is.

 

Do the smallest amount of research and you'll discover that Korea and racism are two very frequently combined words. After living there for a year, and observing individuals buying non-Korean goods getting audited for doing so (among many, many other unusual things) you can't help but be given pause.

 

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Of course it follows perfectly. He obviously has a hatred for Samsung, like so many in this forum, so it would stand to reason that he would not buy a Samsung product or any product using Samsung components.

 

Quite frankly, Fredaroony, this is one of the more ridiculous statements that you seem to like to repeat frequently. Business is so intertwined internationally these days that if anybody was to follow this principal then nothing would be purchased. But don't worry. Samsung has worked hard at given themselves a reputation for stabbing their own customers in the back. I'm sure Apple and many other companies have taken note, and are taking steps to do exactly as you said.

 

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This site doesn't work like that though...posters in here want to make big outlandish statements and not back them up.

 

This site doesn't work like that at all, as can be proven by your decision to continue hanging around like a bad smell despite this claimed 'injustice'.

 

We rarely see you posting positively about stuff (even from the rival companies) and generally just see you having your little outbursts over Apple.

 

And no intelligent individual would fall for your secondary troll bait of actually devoting time to collect fact or figures in an attempt to convince you of anything. You'll never be convinced, regardless of what argument is put forward, so don't expect us to waste time on you.

 

When will you be getting a life, and go and do something positive with your own?

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...why surprise and confuse your customers just to have something "new"? This is where Microsoft annoy me because in every major release things get moved around, renamed and reordered.

 

If the original design is strong enough, it can evolve instead of being thrown away...

neolos,

well said. I have the same experience as you. Every time I have to use a new version of Windows, the first thing I do is figure out how to reconfigure the UI back into "Classic" mode aka Windows 2000.  Until that happens, I feel completely disoriented and its completely unusable.   The New UI is no better in most cases. Just change for the sake of change and not well thought out.

 

I have seen iOS is "stale" arguments before.  They say,  switch to the Windows Phone UI, or redesigned Android 3.x UI, no I mean 4.0, no I mean 5.0, give it a try.  Same with Windows.. try to new XP UI.  Its much better, no I mean Vista UI, no I mean 7 UI, no I mean 8.  Really, its completely redesigned and gonna be better this time.  we promise, its very very cool and will blow your mind.    

 

  I have to laugh each time.  No thanks. I like what I have now with OS X and iOS.  They are both well designed from the start.  Tweaks and merging proven UI together are welcome. No need to redesign. If you are redesigning the UI often it says a lot about the designers and architects who created the UI in the first place.

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I love how aggressive and confident he is.  And,  I'm glad Apple has him in its corner.  My respect for Foxconn has grown over the years as I've followed Apple and as I've seen the importance of strategic manufacturing relationships  

 

The upcoming iTV and the Sharp relationship are going to bring a world of hurt to Samsung  

 

Let me just add, off topic, how fuckin* ugly I think the Galaxy S III is.  Just for the record   

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I stand by what I said, if someone proclaims a hatred for something so much then stand by what they say and don't use the products, or parts of. This site doesn't work like that though...posters in here want to make big outlandish statements and not back them up.

They are two separate companies. You probably know this already though.

 

You're one of the worst posters on this forum.

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This guy is known for making false statements. He is totally pro-Japanese and anti-Korea. Even though I am Apple fanboy, I don't believe everything he says.

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Why? The UI of iOS is very functional and understood my tens of millions of users. If they had somehow made a terrible interaction metaphor that people couldn't understand, maybe they would need to go back to the drawing-board, but why surprise and confuse your customers just to have something "new"? 

 

So, given your strong views on user interface and user interaction design, please give us the top five ways you might fix the UI of iOS 7 without alienating and confusing Apple's long-time users.

 

Change in UI can increase functionality in iOS. Let's take an example. Currently in iOS to check weather a user can either hold down the home button & ask siri or pull down notification center from home screen or go to the weather app from home screen. Now because Windows Phone supports 'live tiles' so in that UI, user only needs to go to home screen to check the live weather. Android also gives the similar functionality via their live widgets.

 

It's clear that iOS's static icons UI does not help much in such cases. Especially with rumors of larger screen iPhone, they could have changed the UI by using that extra space but they didn't. In WWDC '12, it was really embarrassing when Forstall mentioned features like Facebook integration, Mail VIP folder & Phone 'reply with message' as one of the major features of iOS 6. Last year it was notification center, twitter integration etc. It felt like they were trying to catch up with Android. Come on! With WP8 to come, they really need to make significant changes in UI of iOS. The current UI feels dated. In modern age of smartphone users, not many users are going to get confused with changes in UI. Yes it could take some time to get used to it but it will be beneficial to the end user.

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Three years ahead. In what way? The new iPhone will still come with iOS 6 which already puts the phone behind at least a year when compared to the competition. Currently iOS is falling behind to the tightly packed ICS if we talk strictly about software point of view. God knows what will happen when Google will unveil Jelly Bean. And WP8 to come, I hope Apple make some substantial changes in UI of iOS 7. 

True... Android has a lot of features and customization.

So this is only meant as a silly observation. I'm not trying to start a war ;-)

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They are two separate companies. You probably know this already though.

 

You're one of the worst posters on this forum.

 

But he does stand by what he says, right? ;-)

 

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True... Android has a lot of features and customization.
So this is only meant as a silly observation. I'm not trying to start a war ;-)
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I saw someone else post that side by side image of a screen a few days, but I wasn't clear then on what it was supposed to evidence of and I'm still not. No doubt I'm missing something so could you point it out? 

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I stand by what I said, if someone proclaims a hatred for something so much then stand by what they say...
That's too funny. LOL


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This comment seems particularly astute.
Seems bigoted to me. He doesn't qualify his statement to include the word "companies" or say "with people I've worked with from..." His comment seems to refer to all the people from those countries.



PS: When did it become acceptable to call bigotry against people of another country racism?

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Let me just add, off topic, how fuckin* ugly I think the Galaxy S III is.  Just for the record   

the more reason to make it even bigger, don't you think? To show the world!   So one can pull it out of one's pants, grunting manly noises as you do so, holding it proudly such that everyone across the room knows that how big and beautiful it is. Ohhh.. pretty.  I bet you don't even bother going to watch moves at the theater any more with a screen that big..   Ahhh..   Yours is so much bigger then mine... I want want want want it. No... I NEED IT.

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Samsung = No OS. Apple, Google, MS = OS.

Samsung has been, is, and will always be a component manufacturer. Too bad Koreans simply don't know how to do OS. Even though Sammy is working hard to have their own OS, like Tizen, it is bound to fail miserably. oh well, at least Sammy is making money right now and they should be happy about it.
 

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PS: When did it become acceptable to call bigotry against people of another country racism?

When 'different race' came to mean 'anyone who isn't you', though I can't tell you when that happened.

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Three years ahead. In what way? The new iPhone will still come with iOS 6 which already puts the phone behind at least a year when compared to the competition. Currently iOS is falling behind to the tightly packed ICS if we talk strictly about software point of view. God knows what will happen when Google will unveil Jelly Bean. And WP8 to come, I hope Apple make some substantial changes in UI of iOS 7. 

 

That's quite some horse-shit you're spouting. iOS6 a 'year behind'? What competition? What the hell does tightly packed mean? God know what happens when Google will unveil jellybean? I know, it will take a year for it to get 10% marketshare of Android devices. Apple should be worried about Jellybean, why exactly? ICS has done nothing to stunt iPhone, nor will jellybean. As for WP8, it's wait an see at this point, as anything would be better than the absolutely dismal performance of WP7. You're insane. 

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