Originally Posted by oneaburns
1) Who said anything about a gen 1 ATV? I said the "existing" ATV, i.e., gen 3.
The point is that anything you stick in there will be outdated in a few years. If Apple had created what you suggest in 2010 with the latest aTV at the time (the original) then 2 years later it would be very outdated today.
2) Yes, a large hard drive (SSD is too pricey.) You would have to have one if you are going to function as a DVR. You're saying everything should be streamed and that's a whole different argument.
The point is the whole DVR mindset is outdated to begin with.
3) You don't understand how multiple tuners work. It does not require multiple coax cables (although it can in some applications.) There would be ONE coax going to the TV, that's it. No set top box. Inside the TV would be multiple tuners so you can record several shows while watching one live.
You don't understand how set top boxes and tuners work. The tuners are now in silicon of most current cable STBs running DOCSIS not discrete devices anymore. In other words it's typically part of the DOCSIS chipset.
To handle everything without STBs you need to have Cablecard support for cable (and FiOS), DishPro for DiSH, SWM for DirectTV (plus sat receivers for both + smart card readers for decryption), IPTV protocol support for UVerse IPTV, etc. To cover JUST the US market is a mess. The how many coax line was me being excessively snarky although you do need 3-4 if you want to support DiSH, OTA and Cable at the same time. Which oddly I had for a while for foreign channels and sports.
If I had kept up with that nonsense I'd have both DiSH and DirectTV because DiSH has a US exclusive on some foreign packages and DirectTV has an exclusive on NFL Sunday Ticket.
Just having a basic QAM tuner isn't enough to handle any of the cases with any sort of encryption. Not to mention all the rules (and licensing) associated with implementing DVR capability (copy once, copy many, etc).
Cablecard is pretty much crap because of the way CableLabs designed it but you need it to implement what you want. You really think Apple wants to stick a piece of crap in their TV? Ain't happening. Ask TiVO how great that experience was.
4) No, it's not a home server. Now you're just talking in circles and you're missing the point. 95% of people are not ready to give up cable/sat in part bc there is no alternative. My idea is...well just go back and read my first post.
It is a home media server if you're going to lump all that crap into a TV...just a limited one. Your idea captures media, stores large quantities of it and replays it for multiple devices on the network. Exactly what do you think a home media server does?
If 95% of folks can't give up cable/sat and you can't get one device to handle a reasonable subset of cable/sat that doesn't suck (or possibly at all) then your idea is pretty much DOA.