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Samsung on Monday said although it is struggling to keep up with demand for its new Galaxy S III, it expects it will be able to provide enough stock to reach sales of 10 million total units to carriers in the month of July.

Shin Jong-kyun, Samsung's mobile communications president, said it has been "tough" for his company to meet demand, according to the Associated Press. But he believes sales of the Galaxy S III will hit 10 million less than two months after the company's flagship Android-powered device hit the market.

The Galaxy S III launched in Europe in late May and launched on all four major carriers in the U.S. last week. The handset has been met with positive reviews that praise the large 4.8-inch AMOLED display, but some of the handset's software features, like its S-Voice technology that competes with Apple's Siri, have been called disappointing.

Sales of 10 million units of the Galaxy S III would represent only those that were shipped to Samsung's carrier partners, and not the number of handset that were actually purchased by consumers. Apple, however, reports how many iPhones it sold to end users in its own quarterly earnings.

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Samsung and Apple are the two largest smartphone makers in the world, and the companies are engaged in a fierce legal battle in which each has accused the other of patent infringement. One projection from earlier this month forecast that Apple and Samsung will control 52.3 percent of smartphone sales through the year 2013.

The primary competition for Samsung's new Galaxy S III is Apple's iPhone 4S, which hit the market in late 2011. Apple is expected to respond with its next-generation iPhone later this year.
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Nice looking phone. One of the first Android phones that I'd even think about. But... My 4S is just fine thank you. However, I can see how some would like the bigger form factor. Just my opinion, offer a 4S style in ~4.5(keep the same pixel/ resolution..you know what I mean, so apps do not have to be updated Don't need the 'retina' that bad) and keep the existing 3.5 too. Not a fan of the rumored 4 inch stretch, but will need to see in person(assuming its true).
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. . . Oh, excuse me, I seem to have stumbled into the wrong website. A galaxy s 3 phone advert ?
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. . . Oh, excuse me, I seem to have stumbled into the wrong website. A galaxy s 3 phone advert ?
I'll see myself out.

You read the headline and still came in to complain? What did you expect to find in this article, Unicorns and puppies?

Wow.
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The Galaxy S III launched... on all four major carriers in the U.S. last week. 

No it didn't. My son-in-law mentioned that he pre-ordered the S3 at Verizon, tho it won't be available until the second week of July. A quick check of Sprint shows they're not available there either. At ATT they're saying the S3 is expected today. That's far from "launched at all 4 carriers last week". Factual accuracy would be a nice touch in AI articles. Just as in measurements, verify/proofread twice, publish once.

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You read the headline and still came in to complain? What did you expect to find in this article, Unicorns and puppies?
Wow.

 

I expected to find unicorns and rainbows.

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A phone that is 100% copied from the iPhone, yet it's allowed to be on the market. This is what's wrong with this country's legal system. This phone should be completely banned.
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A phone that is 100% copied from the iPhone, yet it's allowed to be on the market. This is what's wrong with this country's legal system. This phone should be completely banned.

You forgot the sarcasm tag. Some readers might think you're serious.

 

While there's a couple of features certainly influenced by Apple such as S-Voice, the Galaxy S3 looks nothing like the iPhone. It also includes some very unique functions, certainly not taken from the iPhone, particularly in the gesture control area. Nor is the OS copied from Apple. But I suppose other than looks, overall features and OS it might be considered a 100% copy.

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I still haven't seen a full review from AnandTech. I'm curious about the battery life, NAND performance, and other performance and user experience items that tend not to be spec sheet concerns of their constituent base.

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A phone that is 100% copied from the iPhone, yet it's allowed to be on the market. This is what's wrong with this country's legal system. This phone should be completely banned.

Are you being facetious? I see nothing on the HW that looks like a blatant copy from Apple.

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Are you being facetious? I see nothing on the HW that looks like a blatant copy from Apple.

 

He's completely correct. How a website for Apple enthusiasts can run articles promoting this garbage is beyond me. I'm furious.

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"Samsung expects Galaxy S III sales to reach 10M in July" 

 

Although it appears to be a good phone, I wonder how much of this is sales into the channel and not sales to the end user.

 

-RJ

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color me unsurprised...

 

Samsung hardware, certainly since the S2 has been far better than anything coming out of Apple for a long time...and at a far better price. (TCO)

 

its horrible going back to anything iphone like now....feels even more toy like.
 

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He's completely correct. How a website for Apple enthusiasts can run articles promoting this garbage is beyond me. I'm furious.

Seriously? I see nothing nothing promotional about this device in the article. it's simply relaying news about a smartphone that looks to be selling very well. That should interest iPhone users and Apple share holders. Besides the fact the title states exactly what the article is about before one clicks on it I'm amazed that anyone would want to live in a bubble of just knowing about one tech company or product.

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Meanwhile Samsung Shares are falling on the PR spin.

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I still haven't seen a full review from AnandTech. I'm curious about the battery life, NAND performance, and other performance and user experience items that tend not to be spec sheet concerns of their constituent base.
Are you being facetious? I see nothing on the HW that looks like a blatant copy from Apple.

Anand had a review of the S3 up last week, but since he was moving he couldn't do a couple of the tests he would have liked in the graphics and sound areas. Testing equipment packed away still.

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"Samsung expects Galaxy S III sales to reach 10M in July" 

 

Although it appears to be a good phone, I wonder how much of this is sales into the channel and not sales to the end user.

 

-RJ


Unlike Apple, Samsung doesn't usually deliver its phones directly to end users -- most Samsung phones are delivered to a sales partner (who presumably pays Samsung the corresponding wholesale price up-front), and from there they will eventually make their way to an end user.  However, if a device has a large base of pent-up demand, then its initial shipments may not have a chance to spend very much time in the partner's warehouse before being sent on to the customer.

 

So, very likely, 100% of this 10 million-unit delivery is going into the sales channel.  But it's also quite likely that a large chunk of that delivery will then make it directly into customers' hands.

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Meanwhile Samsung Shares are falling on the PR spin.

I saw that. Analysts supposedly taking the news as evidence that Samsung might not be able to meet the high demand. You'd expect that kind of analyst spin with a new iPhone, but I'm pretty surprised that Samsung's market presence is getting the same kind of "overwhelming demand" stories now. this is a first for them I think.

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No it didn't. My son-in-law mentioned that he pre-ordered the S3 at Verizon, tho it won't be available until the second week of July. A quick check of Sprint shows they're not available there either. At ATT they're saying the S3 is expected today. That's far from "launched at all 4 carriers last week". Factual accuracy would be a nice touch in AI articles. Just as in measurements, verify/proofread twice, publish once.

AT&T customers that pre-ordered got our phones last week. Due to demand though, some pre-orders were delayed until today. Sprint also got phones to their pre-orders last week.

Verizon is the only carrier waiting until mid-July to start sending out phones and that is because of their new shared data plan initiative.

And point in fact, the S3 did technically launch on the 20th in NYC for the North American market. This included all major US carriers.

So yes, a little factual accuracy from people complaining about factual accuracy would be nice.
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"Samsung expects Galaxy S III sales to reach 10M in July" 

Although it appears to be a good phone, I wonder how much of this is sales into the channel and not sales to the end user.

-RJ
Considering the delays for those that pre-ordered in the US, I'd say every one of those units has sold. It pissed a lot of us off at at&t when we had to wait an extra 5 days to get the S3 we pre-ordered weeks ago. Qualcomm is having a tough time meeting Samsungs demands as well.

Samsung is expected to sell over 50 million smartphones this quarter, dwarfing Apple.
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AT&T customers that pre-ordered got our phones last week. Due to demand though, some pre-orders were delayed until today. Sprint also got phones to their pre-orders last week.
Verizon is the only carrier waiting until mid-July to start sending out phones and that is because of their new shared data plan initiative.
And point in fact, the S3 did technically launch on the 20th in NYC for the North American market. This included all major US carriers.
So yes, a little factual accuracy from people complaining about factual accuracy would be nice.

I know of quite a few people on vzw that are getting it simply because of the new data plans. Pre-ordering allows them to keep their unlimited data.
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A phone that is 100% copied from the iPhone, yet it's allowed to be on the market. This is what's wrong with this country's legal system. This phone should be completely banned.

 

 

As far as I know, Apple is not attempting to ban the S III in any jurisdiction.  Maybe it cannot be banned under any county's legal system?

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"Samsung expects Galaxy S III sales to reach 10M in July" 

Although it appears to be a good phone, I wonder how much of this is sales into the channel and not sales to the end user.

-RJ

In addition, you need to factor in a lot of the orders being preorders. Verizon, for example, is taking preorders until mid-July and will ship them all at once.

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Unlike Apple, Samsung doesn't usually deliver its phones directly to end users -- most Samsung phones are delivered to a sales partner (who presumably pays Samsung the corresponding wholesale price up-front), and from there they will eventually make their way to an end user.  However, if a device has a large base of pent-up demand, then its initial shipments may not have a chance to spend very much time in the partner's warehouse before being sent on to the customer.

So, very likely, 100% of this 10 million-unit delivery is going into the sales channel.  But it's also quite likely that a large chunk of that delivery will then make it directly into customers' hands.

I think you're confused. What makes you think that Apple usually delivers its phones directly to end users? Sure, that's an option and some percentage is undoubtedly going that way, but most iPhones are sold via carriers, just like everyone else.
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"Samsung expects Galaxy S III sales to reach 10M in July" 

 

Although it appears to be a good phone, I wonder how much of this is sales into the channel and not sales to the end user.

 

-RJ

 

 

100% according to the article:  

 

it will be able to provide enough stock to reach sales of 10 million total units to carriers in the month of July.

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As far as I know, Apple is not attempting to ban the S III in any jurisdiction.  Maybe it cannot be banned under any county's legal system?

Yes they were attempting to block sales before they ever started in the US. They just weren't successful.  IIRC they still have plans to include the S3 in their legal attacks. 

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Yes they were attempting to block sales before they ever started in the US. They just weren't successful.  IIRC they still have plans to include the S3 in their legal attacks. 

Likely you are correct.  There are so many Apple lawsuits that it is hard to keep track.

 

How about HTC?  Is Apple trying to ban the HTC One X?

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AT&T customers that pre-ordered got our phones last week. Due to demand though, some pre-orders were delayed until today. Sprint also got phones to their pre-orders last week.
Verizon is the only carrier waiting until mid-July to start sending out phones and that is because of their new shared data plan initiative.
And point in fact, the S3 did technically launch on the 20th in NYC for the North American market. This included all major US carriers.
So yes, a little factual accuracy from people complaining about factual accuracy would be nice.

Thanks for clarifying who launched and who didn't. I wasn't aware that some number of ATT phones shipped last week. Still not launched on all four mobile carrier's since you can't buy one at Verizon. I stand corrected on ATT and Sprint.

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Considering the delays for those that pre-ordered in the US, I'd say every one of those units has sold. It pissed a lot of us off at at&t when we had to wait an extra 5 days to get the S3 we pre-ordered weeks ago. Qualcomm is having a tough time meeting Samsungs demands as well.
Samsung is expected to sell over 50 million smartphones this quarter, dwarfing Apple.

 

I don't think Apple will get above 32 million in sales for this quarter that is ending and less than that for the next quarter. Anything lower than 32 million for this quarter will send the shares tumbling.

 

As much as I know that Apple will sell 50 million iPhones in the holiday quarter, I think that the surge in Samsung's sales outside of the holiday quarter will be enough to make Apple up its game. Not sure how, but Apple will change its game plan... that is unless they are banking on the next revision of the iPhone being so popular that it will carry Apple through the next 2 years.

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I know of quite a few people on vzw that are getting it simply because of the new data plans. Pre-ordering allows them to keep their unlimited data.

That's exactly what I am doing.  I can sell it and them use the money to buy any other phone off contract to keep unlimited data.

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We are repeatedly told by Apple that their one size fits all iPhone strategy is best because it makes things easier for developers. But Android developers don't seem to have a problem adjusting their app's for the multiitude of different sized Android phones. Last time I checked the number of Android app's was not that far behind the number of iOS app's. I hope the success of phones like the S3 will make Apple look again at this policy. I don't think we need a multitude of iPhone sizes - just 2 would do: 3.5" and 4.5" or something along those lines. I think that would satisfy most people.

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color me unsurprised...

Samsung hardware, certainly since the S2 has been far better than anything coming out of Apple for a long time...and at a far better price. (TCO)

its horrible going back to anything iphone like now....feels even more toy like.

 

Oh here we go with more crap like this.

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We are repeatedly told by Apple that their one size fits all iPhone strategy is best because it makes things easier for developers. But Android developers don't seem to have a problem adjusting their app's for the multiitude of different sized Android phones. Last time I checked the number of Android app's was not that far behind the number of iOS app's. I hope the success of phones like the S3 will make Apple look again at this policy. I don't think we need a multitude of iPhone sizes - just 2 would do: 3.5" and 4.5" or something along those lines. I think that would satisfy most people.

Resizing objects on a screen is not an issue with android. How do you make an app more usefull on a 4.8“ display compared to a 3.5 inch display with android? You don’t, that’s the problem, you just resize to fit the screen.

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color me unsurprised...

 

Samsung hardware, certainly since the S2 has been far better than anything coming out of Apple for a long time...and at a far better price. (TCO)

 

its horrible going back to anything iphone like now....feels even more toy like.
 


How is plastic phone better than aluminum and glass? Have you used Samsung TV's remote controls? That's how the phone feels. You should look into HTC ONE X and apply that logic there.

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We are repeatedly told by Apple that their one size fits all iPhone strategy is best because it makes things easier for developers. But Android developers don't seem to have a problem adjusting their app's for the multiitude of different sized Android phones. Last time I checked the number of Android app's was not that far behind the number of iOS app's. I hope the success of phones like the S3 will make Apple look again at this policy. I don't think we need a multitude of iPhone sizes - just 2 would do: 3.5" and 4.5" or something along those lines. I think that would satisfy most people.


The best part is when you get an app that looks like Android 2.2 on a 4.0 OS device. Looks like you have a different phone. That's the problem with Android OS, Google changed the looks so many times all apps look different. The fitting is not an issue, looking like a complete, polished product -- is.

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"Samsung expects Galaxy S III sales to reach 10M in July" 

 

Although it appears to be a good phone, I wonder how much of this is sales into the channel and not sales to the end user.

 

-RJ

 

You can not push 10million units in a month into a retail channel if no one is buying it. Carriers have been taking pre-orders, they have an idea of what they need at this point.

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"Samsung expects Galaxy S III sales to reach 10M in July" 

 

Although it appears to be a good phone, I wonder how much of this is sales into the channel and not sales to the end user.

 

-RJ


Do you believe Samsung will overproduce 5-10M phones and simply write down the costs?

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How is plastic phone better than aluminum and glass? Have you used Samsung TV's remote controls? That's how the phone feels. You should look into HTC ONE X and apply that logic there.


"Aluminum" and glass? Aluminum?

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It's all fun and games until the next iPhone. 

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Do you believe Samsung will overproduce 5-10M phones and simply write down the costs?

 

Maybe not 5 to 10 million units but they've done it before with other products. How many v1 Galaxy Tabs did they write-off... my guess... around 2 million.

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I think you're confused. What makes you think that Apple usually delivers its phones directly to end users? Sure, that's an option and some percentage is undoubtedly going that way, but most iPhones are sold via carriers, just like everyone else.

I wasn't intending to imply that most of Apple's phones were sold directly to consumers, merely that it is usually possible to order them that way, and some of them are, in fact, sold like that.  Conversely, usually Samsung makes it impossible for any of their phones to be sold under such arrangements.

 

If the emphasis in my sentence structure appeared to imply a meaning other than I had intended, then I apologize for the misunderstanding.


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It's all fun and games until the next iPhone. 

 

A $99 4S and a new design for v6... should be interesting.

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