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Never mind Island hermit. I see you modified your post a bit. ;)

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"Aluminum" and glass? Aluminum?


What's wrong?  I don't see anything wrong.

 

Unless perhaps you're upset about the spelling of the word "Aluminum".  IUPAC recognizes both "Aluminum" and "Aluminium" as acceptable variations of the word, but in most (all?) North American dictionaries, "Aluminum" is generally the preferred spelling.

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How is plastic phone better than aluminum and glass? Have you used Samsung TV's remote controls? That's how the phone feels. You should look into HTC ONE X and apply that logic there.


When I dropped my S2 it bounced, when my wife dropped her iPhone 4, it shattered.

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I write a bit so that I can drop the reply under the comment... and then I adjust. You're just too quick.

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The best part is when you get an app that looks like Android 2.2 on a 4.0 OS device. Looks like you have a different phone. That's the problem with Android OS, Google changed the looks so many times all apps look different. The fitting is not an issue, looking like a complete, polished product -- is.


Ignorant statement of the week.  A the large majority of Android phone manufactures produce their own launchers and a majority of users use 3rd party launchers so it does not matter what Google does with the look since no one really ever gets to see the original look.  Maybe use a product before you bash a product.

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I write a bit so that I can drop the reply under the comment... and then I adjust. You're just too quick.

I've done the same. Understood

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Unlike Apple, Sam-Suck pays subsidies to carriers all over the world. That means telcoms can purchase Sam-Suck phones cheaper than the iPhone. Sam-Suck gets the OS from Google for free and the adoption rate of ICS is less than 10%. Guess what? Google's next mobile OS, codenamed Jelly Bean, will be introduced this week at their I/O. Android platform will be fragmented even more. You might want to wait 3 mos and get the WP8 if you want your OS to get regular updates. Sam-Suck phones will never achieve iconic status like Apple, unless they learn to make their own OS.

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Considering the delays for those that pre-ordered in the US, I'd say every one of those units has sold. It pissed a lot of us off at at&t when we had to wait an extra 5 days to get the S3 we pre-ordered weeks ago. Qualcomm is having a tough time meeting Samsungs demands as well.
Samsung is expected to sell over 50 million smartphones this quarter, dwarfing Apple.

 

Samsung sells more smartphones overall, but they also sell a lot of low-end devices. Samsung stated 10m GS3's in the first 2 months. If they move another 5 million that's 15 million in 3 months. If they sell 50 million, then what devices make up the other 35 million?

 

Apple doesn't compete in the low-end so comparing total sales is meaningless.

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Oh here we go with more crap like this.

Used and owned both for Long periods of time....my opinion.
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How is plastic phone better than aluminum and glass? Have you used Samsung TV's remote controls? That's how the phone feels. You should look into HTC ONE X and apply that logic there.

I don't interact too much with the back, I was talking about the screen size, screen quality etc.
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I wasn't intending to imply that most of Apple's phones were sold directly to consumers, merely that it is usually possible to order them that way, and some of them are, in fact, sold like that.  Conversely, usually Samsung makes it impossible for any of their phones to be sold under such arrangements.

 

If the emphasis in my sentence structure appeared to imply a meaning other than I had intended, then I apologize for the misunderstanding.

 

 

Samsung sells phones directly to customers too. In fact, in some countries, that's the only legal way to buy a phone.

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Likely you are correct.  There are so many Apple lawsuits that it is hard to keep track.

 

How about HTC?  Is Apple trying to ban the HTC One X?

Sorry, missed the question earlier. 

 

Yes they are, along with another 20 some-odd models. If an Android smartphone has any chance at being successful, Apple's on it.

 

IMHO, their legal maneuvers are more towards restricting competition than protecting IP. Some of the claims are for the most minimal features using sometimes vaguely described patents, yet total sales injunctions are being requested. Now with Apple on both the giving and receiving end of some of these dubious agendas, I expect things to get still worse before the inevitable cross-licensing takes place.


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How is plastic phone better than aluminum and glass? Have you used Samsung TV's remote controls? That's how the phone feels. You should look into HTC ONE X and apply that logic there.

 

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What's wrong?  I don't see anything wrong.

 

Unless perhaps you're upset about the spelling of the word "Aluminum".  IUPAC recognizes both "Aluminum" and "Aluminium" as acceptable variations of the word, but in most (all?) North American dictionaries, "Aluminum" is generally the preferred spelling.

 

What part of the iPhone is aluminum?

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When I dropped my S2 it bounced, when my wife dropped her iPhone 4, it shattered.


I've dropped my iPhone 4 and 4S each about 30 times. Not a scratch on either.

 

Let's not forget S2 also has glass. One can argue that iPhones have two glass surfaces and therefore double the odds of "shattering". But many users have a case, which reduces the odds of shattering to being the same for S2 and iPhone (i.e. very low in both cases).

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color me unsurprised...

 

Samsung hardware, certainly since the S2 has been far better than anything coming out of Apple for a long time...and at a far better price. (TCO)

 

its horrible going back to anything iphone like now....feels even more toy like.
 

 

I know you are just trolling.  But  have you ever looked into the popularity of this "toy".  While Samsung sells alot of phones, they still have no single phone that can approach the popularity of the iPhone.  If fact they do the opposite, they make hundreds of iterations.. using different screen/processor/feature/radio combinations in an effort to outdo the iPhone.  And still have not found an answer for it.  How can such a horrible toy product like the iPhone.. crush the sales of pretty much any other phone ever sold?

 

What seems like a toy to you, is what makes the phone so popular with millions of other people.  The average person with a smartphone doesnt care about scrolling wallpapers, 500 keyboards to choose from, "true multitasking" or how "open" their phones operating system is.  What the average person does cares about is something so simple to use you dont need to read an instruction manual or website/youtube guide to use it.  So reliable they arent worried about apps crashing or that their battery wont make it till lunch.  And so well made using high quality materials that will still feel substantial & solid to use everyday at the end of that 2 year contract they just signed.  

 

The bigger point being that every iPhone thats been announced is designed from a user's standpoint first, and what's most important is included & prioritized.  Instead of the competitions method of throwing a bunch of specs at consumers.. hoping they will continually bite on the latest, greatest (or cheapest) flavour of the month.  A whole lot of people buying the S3, just bought the Galaxy Note or HTC One before it.  And a few months before that they bought Droid Rzar or Galaxy Nexus before that.  We could go on & on.  Ever wonder why these Android guys are constantly crying/buying/trying the latest & greatest Android phone?  How did they catch this Androiditis?  Because they are endless chasing a bunch of spec & software upgrades.. instead of actually experiencing the joy of a quality product meant to last.  

 

Which brings up another point important point about the Phone.  Its software will always be stable, efficient, productive & well supported.  The same cant be said for Samsung's "look-whats-next" product line.  The tell-tale point about the iPhone (and why its ridiculously popular) is that you once you buy it, you dont worry about it.  You dont get caught up in the Androiditis.  When something just works.. you dont have to worry about it.  That alone is worth the price of admission.  Something that the 1000's of models of Android phones, android manufacters and android owners cant grasp.  They are constantly worried about whats next, whats faster, whats bigger or whats missing.  

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I've dropped my iPhone 4 and 4S each about 30 times. Not a scratch on either.

 

Let's not forget S2 also has glass. One can argue that iPhones have two glass surfaces and therefore double the odds of "shattering". But many users have a case, which reduces the odds of shattering to being the same for S2 and iPhone (i.e. very low in both cases).


Its not an argument, iPhone does have two glass surfaces and the back is what shattered on my wife's, with the bumpers on it, which is a moot point, we are talking about the phones not the cases, if all you have to do is add a case to counter an argument than my phone looks way better than an iPhone because of my classy case.  The original question implies that glass and aluminium i better than plastic and I am pointing out why I think it is not.

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I know you are just trolling.  But  have you ever looked into the popularity of this "toy".  While Samsung sells alot of phones, they still have no single phone that can approach the popularity of the iPhone.  If fact they do the opposite, they make hundreds of iterations.. using different screen/processor/feature/radio combinations in an effort to outdo the iPhone.  And still have not found an answer for it.  How can such a horrible toy product like the iPhone.. crush the sales of pretty much any other phone ever sold?

 

What seems like a toy to you, is what makes the phone so popular with millions of other people.  The average person with a smartphone doesnt care about scrolling wallpapers, 500 keyboards to choose from, "true multitasking" or how "open" their phones operating system is.  What the average person does cares about is something so simple to use you dont need to read an instruction manual or website/youtube guide to use it.  So reliable they arent worried about apps crashing or that their battery wont make it till lunch.  And so well made using high quality materials that will still feel substantial & solid to use everyday at the end of that 2 year contract they just signed.  

 

The bigger point being that every iPhone thats been announced is designed from a user's standpoint first, and what's most important is included & prioritized.  Instead of the competitions method of throwing a bunch of specs at consumers.. hoping they will continually bite on the latest, greatest (or cheapest) flavour of the month.  A whole lot of people buying the S3, just bought the Galaxy Note or HTC One before it.  And a few months before that they bought Droid Rzar or Galaxy Nexus before that.  We could go on & on.  Ever wonder why these Android guys are constantly crying/buying/trying the latest & greatest Android phone?  How did they catch this Androiditis?  Because they are endless chasing a bunch of spec & software upgrades.. instead of actually experiencing the joy of a quality product meant to last.  

 

Which brings up another point important point about the Phone.  Its software will always be stable, efficient, productive & well supported.  The same cant be said for Samsung's "look-whats-next" product line.  The tell-tale point about the iPhone (and why its ridiculously popular) is that you once you buy it, you dont worry about it.  You dont get caught up in the Androiditis.  When something just works.. you dont have to worry about it.  That alone is worth the price of admission.  Something that the 1000's of models of Android phones, android manufacters and android owners cant grasp.  They are constantly worried about whats next, whats faster, whats bigger or whats missing.  

So the iPhone is the "safety helmet" I used to see some kids in school wearing.

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Very well said. I agree 100%.

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What part of the iPhone is aluminum?

Point taken.  The last time exposed aluminum was used on an iPhone was in the original model.

 

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Samsung sells phones directly to customers too. In fact, in some countries, that's the only legal way to buy a phone.

Indeed, in this particular case Play.com is acting as the 3rd party reselling partner.

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Point taken.  The last time exposed aluminum was used on an iPhone was in the original model.

 

 

Indeed. Too bad Walter Isaacson didn't understand this.

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LOL. They expect to "sell" 10M in July, but still won't report any actual sales numbers. (For the record, Apple is the only handset manufacturer to do so).

 

I wonder why..... 

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Wow, Samsung has really turned on the hype machine.

 

Sales must have fallen to dismal levels with only a million sales since "9 million preorders".

 

The "technical issues" delaying the launch of the blue painted plastic model.

 

Astroturfers everywhere pumping out their bullish it.

 

Overhyping "shortages" to create a perceived demand.

 

Although it's a fairly nice phone it's another latest generation of quad core phones just like what HTC and other Android manufacturers are making.

 

So how come you Americans are getting a dual core model?

 

Samsung may have homogenised the name across carriers but they still have very different hardware.

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I think you're confused. What makes you think that Apple usually delivers its phones directly to end users? Sure, that's an option and some percentage is undoubtedly going that way, but most iPhones are sold via carriers, just like everyone else.

I haven't seen Apple comment succinctly on direct vs. carrier sales (except to say that they won't comment succinctly on it.) The most I have seen them say is that their sales channels are highly diversified. Where have you seen this information comparing sales chanesls?

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I've dropped my iPhone 4 and 4S each about 30 times. Not a scratch on either.

 

Let's not forget S2 also has glass. One can argue that iPhones have two glass surfaces and therefore double the odds of "shattering". But many users have a case, which reduces the odds of shattering to being the same for S2 and iPhone (i.e. very low in both cases).

 

I've seen plenty of Galaxy handsets with cracked and broken screens, glass is glass sh it happens.

 

If you're worried, buy a case.

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LOL. They expect to "sell" 10M in July, but still won't report any actual sales numbers. (For the record, Apple is the only handset manufacturer to do so).

 

I wonder why..... 

Must be the Samsung Sales Conspiracy! We can add it to the list along with the Samsung Copying Conspiracy....

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Must be the Samsung Sales Conspiracy! We can add it to the list along with the Samsung Copying Conspiracy....

As the latter isn't a conspiracy and the former exists through the continued refusal of the company to present its sales numbers…

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Its not an argument, iPhone does have two glass surfaces and the back is what shattered on my wife's, with the bumpers on it, which is a moot point, we are talking about the phones not the cases, if all you have to do is add a case to counter an argument than my phone looks way better than an iPhone because of my classy case.  The original question implies that glass and aluminium i better than plastic and I am pointing out why I think it is not.

 

By "aluminium" don't you mean "stainless steel"?

 

...because that's what it is.

 

Such a major blunder pours doubt over the veracity of the story of the "shattering" of your "wife's iPhone".

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As the latter isn't a conspiracy and the former exists through the continued refusal of the company to present its sales numbers…

So Samsung didn't conspire to copy Apple's designs?? Never thought I would hear that statement coming from the lips of TS!

 

Regarding their refusal to release sales numbers, certainly there must be some nefarious intent by that action. Why else would they not give them....?

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I've seen plenty of Galaxy handsets with cracked and broken screens, glass is glass sh it happens.

 

If you're worried, buy a case.


That was kind of my point.

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Its not an argument, iPhone does have two glass surfaces and the back is what shattered on my wife's, with the bumpers on it, which is a moot point, we are talking about the phones not the cases, if all you have to do is add a case to counter an argument than my phone looks way better than an iPhone because of my classy case.  The original question implies that glass and aluminium i better than plastic and I am pointing out why I think it is not.


It's not glass and aluminum v. plastic. It's glass and glass and stainless steel v. glass and plastic. My point is that ALL smartphones have glass.

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So Samsung didn't conspire to copy Apple's designs?? Never thought I would hear that statement coming from the lips of TS!

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Regarding their refusal to release sales numbers, certainly there must be some nefarious intent by that action. Why else would they not give them....?

I'm also curious why a publicly traded company somehow doesn't have to report devices sold. I'd say that needs looked into.

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Let's say Samsung releases a version of S III running WP8, and it sells a few million. How do we track the scorecard of Samsung v. Apple? Is it GSIII v. iPhone regardless of OS?  Or do we stick with the tried and true Android v. iOS?
 

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I'm also curious why a publicly traded company somehow doesn't have to report devices sold. I'd say that needs looked into.


Because, at the end of the day, it's about how much money is made. Furthermore, if publicly traded companies are compelled to be 100% explicit about their operations, what would analysts do? What would Shaw Wu do for a living if that he doesn't have to stand in front of Apple stores to count how many iPhone 4Ses are sold v. iPhone 4s?

 

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I'm also curious why a publicly traded company somehow doesn't have to report devices sold. I'd say that needs looked into.

Of course they report their sales. They just don't break them down into as much detail as forum members here would like. I've no idea why they should either. Does the detailed number of devices sold somehow make the profit numbers higher? Few here would believe the numbers anyway even if they did.

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Nice try.

 

So what did you mean by your statement? It seems pretty cut and dry to me. Either Samsung conspired to copy Apple's designs and we have a "Samsung Copying Conspiracy", or they didn't.

 

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I'm also curious why a publicly traded company somehow doesn't have to report devices sold. I'd say that needs looked into.

 

From a Samsung shareholder's perspective, why does it matter if a device was sold to an end user or a carrier?

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I've dropped my iPhone 4 and 4S each about 30 times. Not a scratch on either.

 

Let's not forget S2 also has glass. One can argue that iPhones have two glass surfaces and therefore double the odds of "shattering". But many users have a case, which reduces the odds of shattering to being the same for S2 and iPhone (i.e. very low in both cases).

My wife dropped her iPhone 4 while getting her keys out of her pocket and same result....cracked all across the front of the phone. Ridiculous.

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Ridiculous.

Indeed. Glass shouldn't be fragile at all. Why, I should be able to drop my phone from 30,000 feet and use it the next day.

I should also be able to drop my quartz countertop on the ground or hit it with a hammer and have it not fracture.

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So what did you mean by your statement? It seems pretty cut and dry to me. Either Samsung conspired to copy Apple's designs and we have a "Samsung Copying Conspiracy", or they didn't.

 

I don't think it (conspiracy) means what you think it means.

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