Please settle down, BR. You have a tendency to lose your temper when people say things you don't like, and it often ruins what otherwise might be a productive discussion.
What you fail to understand is that human rights do not come from a group of individuals calling themselves government. Every human being has them. They exist whether a group of individuals calling themselves a government says they do or not.
The only legitimate purpose of government (if, indeed, there is one) is to protect and secure those rights to every individual.
Frederic Bastiat said it best: "Life, liberty, and property do not exist because men have made laws. On the contrary, it was the fact that life, liberty, and property existed beforehand that caused men to make laws in the first place."
Now please explain how you have a "right" to products and services that improve and extend your life and to have these products and services paid for with money that is taken from other people under threat of violence.
Would that "right" exist independent of government? If you are fighting an illness and do not have the means to pay for healthcare, do you have the "right" to go to your neighbor's house and demand that he pay for it under threat of violence?
And this, really, is the main difference between you and I - and the basis for each of our arguments. You want to bring about your ideal world through force and violence. I want to bring about a better world through the free exchange of ideas, peace and voluntary action.
