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Originally Posted by MaroonMushroom View Post

Finally!

 

It puts Safari to shame. And Google Drive is easily the best cloud storage out there right now. (Dropbox is a close 2nd)

 

So nice being able to work on my computer in Chrome and having all of my tabs being right there on my phone.

 

But I've had this for a little while thanks to my Galaxy Nexus (that's now running Jelly Bean!)

Actually Cubby is also very good but I do use Drive daily.

post #42 of 78

to be honest, Safari sucks big time.

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post #43 of 78
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You don't get it at all. Only about 5% of the public have good taste. Apple has helped about another 5% to 15% develop some sense of appreciation for good design awareness. To those with no taste at all, it just looks like we hate anything non-Apple, while we see and appreciate good design. That's all. Don't take it personal that you have way too much Nethanderal DNA in your make up. 

Doesn't the iPad have more than 5% of the market? I wonder what that implies.
post #44 of 78

Nothing wrong with some healthy competition.

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Originally Posted by bighype View Post

Why the heck would you want to use a browser designed to suck as much data out of you as possible? 

 

Don't be an idiot, quit using Google products. You're not a Google's customer, you're just the product they sell to their customers: advertisers.

Whatever. As long as they don't break the law, all they get from me is just another guy who likes baseball, beer, auto racing, and Apple. It is not like they took anything valuable from me. If they use the information to  help me search faster or target ads that I might be interested in (unlikely...) but why is that such a bad thing? Is it because they are able to sell the the info and not give you any of the money? If someone walked up to you in the street and said I'll give you $10 if you tell me 10 websites you like, would you do it? 

 

They said there is an incognito mode so if you are worried about it use that.

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post #47 of 78
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They said there is an incognito mode so if you are worried about it use that.

Safari has/had a private mode too, and Google ignored it. Found a way to circumvent that. Why should anyone trust incognito mode to actually work?
post #48 of 78
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Ahh so anyone who uses Chrome is a idiot?
You've made a leap in logic; that's not what I said.
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So the 39.3% vs Safari's 4.3% has nothing to do with the quality of Chrome itself?
Not in the way that you would have us believe, no.
post #49 of 78
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Safari has/had a private mode too, and Google ignored it. Found a way to circumvent that. Why should anyone trust incognito mode to actually work?
Exactly.

The only thing that incognito in Chrome does is prevent other people who have access to your terminal to see what you've been up to. All of the normal information harvesting that Google is famous for is still taking place.
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You've made a leap in logic; that's not what I said.
Not in the way that you would have us believe, no.

So what does "mobs of idiots" mean then?

 

Ahh so explain what these stats mean then?

post #51 of 78
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Safari has/had a private mode too, and Google ignored it. Found a way to circumvent that. Why should anyone trust incognito mode to actually work?

No they did not. They violated the no third party cookie feature. If they had compromised the Private Browsing mode then that would have been a bug in Apple's code. That said, they were very close to breaking the law with their tactics on the cookie thing. I don't think Google can get away with anything since they are under a great deal of scrutiny now. That whole issue about collecting data over unsecured wifi was pretty shady and they are going to pay a fine for that to be sure, but really if you have no password on your wifi, what did you expect?

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post #52 of 78

My favorite feature so far: "Request Desktop Site" for those sites that keep wanting to shove a mobile version down your throat even when you don't want it (**Cough** Appleinsider **Cough**)

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No they did not. They violated the no third party cookie feature. If they had compromised the Private Browsing mode then that would have been a bug in Apple's code. That said, they were very close to breaking the law with their tactics on the cookie thing. I don't think Google can get away with anything since they are under a great deal of scrutiny now. That whole issue about collecting data over unsecured wifi was pretty shady and they are going to pay a fine for that to be sure, but really if you have no password on your wifi, what did you expect?

I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing here. See this:

http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/google-negotiating-ftc-fine-after-bypassing-safari-privacy-settings/76318
post #54 of 78
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Originally Posted by monstrosity View Post

 

What is so 'good' about those stats? Are you suggesting that 'good' stuff is popular stuff? 

 

Windows != Good

Justin Bieber  != Good

Symbian != Good

Religion != Good

 

Skoda sells more cars than Ferrari, does that make them better cars?

If Skoda and Ferrari were the same price, which would sell more?  Safari and Chrome are both free.  Dumb argument.  (And I use Safari and prefer it over Chrome btw).

 

And to think religion isn't good just proves your intellect.  Even if you don't believe in God, religion, or whatever- to say that religion, as a whole, is bad- is pretty asinine.  Religion got society to where it is today.  There are plenty of bad agendas spread by religion throughout history, but way way way more positive has come from it.  Sorry for the Tangent- but sometimes you gotta call a spade a spade.

 

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I have another small question that I don't understand.  How is having safari be the default browser- and not being able to change the default browser- legal?  I don't want to change it from Safari, but just curious as to the legality.


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post #55 of 78
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So what does "mobs of idiots" mean then?

Ahh so explain what these stats mean then?
To paraphrase a member of said mob: I'll let you figure it out all by yourself.
post #56 of 78
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I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing here. See this:
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/btl/google-negotiating-ftc-fine-after-bypassing-safari-privacy-settings/76318

You are right. My mistake. I assumed that you meant Private Browsing when you actually meant privacy settings. In either case I was aware of the issue. But again I personally don't care that much about Google because they are losing money on me. They send me a check every month for idiots who accidentally land on my 404 page and then click on one of the links. Plus I have ad blockers in my browser too so Google is in the minus column on my account.

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post #57 of 78
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To paraphrase a member of said mob: I'll let you figure it out all by yourself.

Just as I thought, you have zero argument.

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And to think religion isn't good just proves your intellect.  Even if you don't believe in God, religion, or whatever- to say that religion, as a whole, is bad- is pretty asinine.  Religion got society to where it is today.  There are plenty of bad agendas spread by religion throughout history, but way way way more positive has come from it.  Sorry for the Tangent- but sometimes you gotta call a spade a spade.

 

 

Religion may be flawed but you don't see too many Hospitals or Universities founded by organized Atheism.

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post #59 of 78
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Originally Posted by toysandme View Post

 

Actually, only half as bad as Facebook.

    and since Mountain Lion will have "deep  facebook integration" Chrome shouldn't worry you at all! 

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Actually, only half as bad as Facebook.


Google's mission statement is: "Google’s mission is to organize the world’s information and make it universally accessible and useful." While Google's mission statement alone isn't troublesome, Google's collection of personal information is quite troublesome because Google's business model is the aggregation of user's personal information in order to target advertising to users. Thus, Google has far more personal information about users than governments or other businesses have about consumers.



* Google gathers details of how you used their services, such as your search queries (1)
* Google tracks cookies that may uniquely identify your browser or your Google Account (1)
* Google collects telephony log information like your phone number, calling-party number, forwarding numbers, time and date of calls, duration of calls, SMS routing information and types of calls (1)
* Google logs device event information such as crashes, system activity, hardware settings, browser type, browser language, the date and time of your request and referral URL (1)
* Google collects device-specific information (such as your hardware model, operating system version, unique device identifiers, and mobile network information including phone number) Google may associate your device identifiers or phone number with your Google Account (1)


While such information is gathered by competing products and services, Google's vast range of "products and services" uniquely positions Google to collect more information about consumers than any other company. The problem with Google's vast network of information gathering is that Google has repeatedly demonstrated a lack of concern for consumers through their policies and practices. Furthermore, Google has consistently used very expedient methods to comply with or meet demands whether those of stockholders or governments. The vast amount of information collected by Google has arguably made Google the greatest threat to privacy ever known, a vast unsecured treasure trove of information that attracts hackers and online thieves, and; most worrisome; governments.



* Google has done very little to protect Android users from malware. Considering that many people have significant amounts of personal information on their mobile devices, I find this completely unacceptable.
* According to Sunnyvale, Calif., security firm Juniper Networks known instances of Android-related malware -- "virtually all" involving apps - have jumped steadily month by month from 400 in June 2011 to 15,507 in February 2012 (2)
* "San Francisco-based Lookout Mobile Security reported In August 2011, that "an estimated half-million to one million people were affected by Android malware in the first half of 2011." (2)
* Trend Micro of Japan, which has U.S. headquarters in Cupertino, Calif. - identified "more than 1,000 malicious Android apps" last year, 90 percent of them on Google's site and noted that the number of bad apps grew last year at 60 percent per month. Trend Micro has estimated the total this year "will grow to more than 120,000," (2)
* Google proclaims that "Since the beginning, we’ve focused on providing the best user experience possible. Whether we’re designing a new Internet browser or a new tweak to the look of the homepage, we take great care to ensure that they will ultimately serve you, rather than our own internal goal or bottom line." (3) This is in direct conflict with Google's business model which serves advertisers and is a serious, undisclosed conflict of interest.
* Google removed links to an anti-Scientology site after the Church of Scientology claimed copyright infringement in 2002. (4)
* Google handed over the records of some users of its social-networking service, Orkut, to the Brazilian government, which was investigating alleged racist, homophobic, and pornographic content in September 2006. (4)
* Google's mission statement "to organize the world’s information and make it universally accessible and useful" didn’t stop Google from censoring their Chinese search engine to gain access to a lucrative market. (4)
* Privacy International has named Google the worst company in their 2007 survey and "hostile to privacy." (5)
* Google has used their dominant position with Google Search to prefer Google+ search results and has published results that include personal data which doesn't provide an opt-out option. (6)

* Google employees have vandalized OpenStreetMap by adding erroneous data. (7)
* Google collected emails, texts, photos and documents gathered from Wi-Fi networks using Google's StreetView cars to collect data. (8)




1. http://www.google.com/policies/privacy/. Google. Retrieved March 29, 2012.
2. Steve Johnson. Posted March 17, 2012. Updated March 23, 2012. http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_20182226/android-apps-targeted-by-malware?source=rss_viewed. San Jose Mercury News. Retrieved March 29, 2012.
3. http://www.google.com/about/company/philosophy/. Google. Retrieved March 29, 2012.
4. Adam L. Penenberg. October 10, 2006. http://motherjones.com/politics/2006/10/google-evil. MotherJones. Retrieved March 29, 2012.
5. Unattributed. June 8, 2007. https://www.privacyinternational.org/article/race-bottom-privacy-ranking-internet-service-companies. Privacy International. Retrieved March 29, 2012.
6. John Fontana. January 12, 2012 http://www.zdnet.com/blog/identity/ftc-asked-to-probe-google-search-integration/143 ZDNet. Retrieved May 22, 2012.

7. Lucian Parfeni. January 17, 2012. http://news.softpedia.com/news/Google-Accused-of-Vandalizing-OpenStreetMap-Data-246965.shtml Softpedia. Retrieved May 22, 2012.
8. Hack Doyle and Daniel Bates. Posted May 27, 2012. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2150606/Google-deliberately-stole-information-executives-covered-years.html. Daily Mail. Retrieved May 28, 2012.
post #61 of 78

Just downloaded it - seems pretty slick so far.  Very quick.  I like Safari fine, but Chrome is a good bit faster.  Kinda surprised Apple even approved it, but, hey I'll take it!  My iPhone 4S just got a lot better.

post #62 of 78
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Originally Posted by MaroonMushroom View Post

Finally!

 

It puts Safari to shame. And Google Drive is easily the best cloud storage out there right now. (Dropbox is a close 2nd)

 

So nice being able to work on my computer in Chrome and having all of my tabs being right there on my phone.

 

But I've had this for a little while thanks to my Galaxy Nexus (that's now running Jelly Bean!)

 

My 25GB SkyDrive would disagree. 

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My 25GB SkyDrive would disagree. 

But you also have file size limits and 25gb is no longer free to new users.

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post #64 of 78

Agreed, I look forward to ALL of the Google Apples (that are on Android) being placed on the iOS devices.  Google lives on ad revenue and that will simply make the our iOS devices that much better.

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I fixed it for you.

Zz, speaking of privacy Apple is actively searching for any copyrighted content (legit or not) among your "private" files on iCloud, Google wouldn't dare to do so on Drive. Objectivity seems a lost cause with some people.

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Originally Posted by screamingfist View Post

 

safari is to apple what IE is to microsoft. pure sh*t.

This comment doesn't even make sense.  

Take a logic course and an English writing course and come back later.  

post #67 of 78

My turn for "am I missing something here" -- the timing of this GDrive release seems to be chosen to scoop up the folks (like me) who will be mourning the loss of the _very_ useful iDrive.  

 

Would'a liked to be a fly on the wall in that Apple corporate meeting -- "Yes our plan is to tick off a whole lot of our customers who adopted iDrive as if it would always be there, with nothing to fill the hole.  Then we loose a million iWork customers to some cloud services provider who gets their nose into the customer's tent with cheap cloud storage and a suite of attractive Office applications.  Once converted to _real_ cloud computing, there is no adavantage to our expensive computers, so they go Linux or Windows on cheap hardware.  Apple becomes the world's premier provider of expensive phones and tablets, a business that will never be undercut by a challenger. ;-)  Yea, that's our plan!"  

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Actually, only half as bad as Facebook.

Google steals your information and intellectual property from other companies.

Facebook only steals your information.

I think you have the "half" backward.
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Agreed, I look forward to ALL of the Google Apples (that are on Android) being placed on the iOS devices.  Google lives on ad revenue and that will simply make the our iOS devices that much better.

How do you figure that in ANY sense?
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Safari has/had a private mode too, and Google ignored it. Found a way to circumvent that. Why should anyone trust incognito mode to actually work?

Google circumvented the browser's blocking of cookies overall, which has nothing to do with Private/Incognitio anything. No matter how you use your browser, if you have cookies set to never or 'only from first-parties', Google has circumvented that and is sending you cookies anyway.

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post #69 of 78
It kills me how all you think browsing with safari makes your "private data" so much safer. Try reading Apple's privacy policy sometime.

[=www.apple.com/privacy/][/]

[=http://www.google.com/policies/privacy/][/]

Wording is different but say very similar things.
post #70 of 78
It's only a browser people and an optional one at that - it's not life or death. I'm an Apple guy and like the iOS Chrome. The tabbing is soo much better than mobile Safari and cool how if you push-in from the sides it lets you push from tab to tab. If Apple put this tabbing into Safari it'll be a lot better. And what do I care if Google knows I'm looking at AppleInsider or ESPN or any other generic site. Guess you Privacy people never use Google for search, Gmail, or never used Google maps on your phone or computer cuz Google will know where your going (goodness not that!)?! I like it, some of you act like Steve Jobs personally christened your first born and you can never use anything without an apple logo on it. Firefox and Chrome are the only desktop browsers I use. Ghost.
Edited by mesomorphicman - 6/28/12 at 6:44pm
post #71 of 78
I'm sure if I used Chrome on the desktop I'd be excited about this but I don't and this is just another browser. I've tried using Chrome on my Mac but I guess I'm getting old and set in my ways. I've got Safari set up like I like it and I'm amazed at all the negative comments regarding it. But I've got no agenda and I'll try out Chrome a little and maybe it'll grow on me but I don't see it bringing anything to the table that Safari doesn't already do (short of tab syncing which will be moot shortly).
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Now...how about them maps?

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APPLE BUSINESS MODEL
Product: Hardware
Customer: Consumers 

GOOGLE BUSINESS MODEL
Product: Consumers
Customer: Advertisers

Why would I want to start using Google services on my iOS device? Google's MO is to harvest as much of my personal information as possible. No thank you.

It's amazing how many tech nerds have been duped by Google's "free" services and "open" BS. Nothing is free. You pay by progressively giving away your privacy.

Google is as evil as a tech company can get.

This deserves the high Thumbs Up it is getting.
post #74 of 78
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Originally Posted by MaroonMushroom View Post

Finally!

It puts Safari to shame. And Google Drive is easily the best cloud storage out there right now. (Dropbox is a close 2nd)

So nice being able to work on my computer in Chrome and having all of my tabs being right there on my phone.

But I've had this for a little while thanks to my Galaxy Nexus (that's now running Jelly Bean!)

I now have my life on Dropbox. Even then passwords and so on are encrypted using 1Password. No way would I trust Google with any of this stuff. Let the people download Google Drive, like lambs to the slaughter.
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Now...how about them maps?

Open Street Map. Stop using Google Maps today. Do you want how to drive down a street to be owned by a company, let alone Google? One day, will your car refuse to start because you stopped the auto-drive from displaying ads?
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Crazy isn't it. I won't have that crap on my machine. Last time I tried. Little Snitch nearly blew up! 

Yeah, LOL I recently installed Ghostery and my goodness, yeah, Ghostery might have melted my computer trying to fend off all kinds of nonsense. I mean, are the people out there making websites or just making tracking rubbish? No wonder you look at most websites on Retina and it's nonsense. I'm done with this industry, I think.

It's like the whole world finally caught up to the "promise of the web", like it's 1999 now, and they're bringing all the idiots from TV, print land, and real life just screwing everything up on the web now. Tell me you don't think so too. A place just for any self-conflicted teen to post themselves doing duck faces? Really? Tim Berners Lee invented the web for this? C'mon.
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Open Street Map. Stop using Google Maps today. Do you want how to drive down a street to be owned by a company, let alone Google? One day, will your car refuse to start because you stopped the auto-drive from displaying ads?

One day, Google's self-driving cars will take people to fast food joints, electronics stores, and gentleman's clubs, without the consent of the driver, and won't leave until you buy something from them.

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post #78 of 78

I access a website fairly regularly that just won't work with Safari (OSX or IOS) so I just gave Chrome a try.  It works, now I have to figure out how to make it safe.

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