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A new report claims Amazon is working on a handset that will compete directly with Apple's iPhone and Google Android smartphones.

Sources familiar with Amazon's plans told Bloomberg that the online retailer is also covering its bases by seeking out wireless technology patents to protect itself from legal action once it enters the smartphone market. A number of the world's largest handset vendors are engaged in lawsuits against each other, with Apple at the center of several heated disputes.

Amazon reportedly expressed interest in a set of wireless patents from InterDigital, but lost out to Intel, which purchased the intellectual property for $375 million. According to Bloomberg's sources, Amazon is "taking pitches and setting up briefings with other sellers."

One tipster said contract manufacturer Foxconn has been tapped to produce the handset with Amazon.

Reports of an Amazon-developed smartphone are not entirely new. Citigroup analyst Mark Mahaney reported last November that a joint Amazon-Foxconn smartphone project was underway. The analyst estimated the device would cost between $150 and $170 to build and could be sold at cost.

Amazon first got into the hardware business with its Kindle e-ink readers. The company then lit up the low-end tablet market with its Kindle Fire late last year. Sales of the Fire got off to a lively start, but they have since cooled off considerably. A next-generation Kindle Fire is expected to arrive later this year, though there is some disagreement as to whether Amazon will change the size of the device.

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Good luck.

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Thats good for us consumers.

I dont like and wont buy Amazon tablet/phone. But they will force Apple to reduce iPhone prices, which I think is good.

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Thats good for us consumers.

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But they will force Apple to reduce iPhone prices…

Not in the slightest.

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This is interesting. What's their angle? Are they aiming for the cheapest smartphone on the market?
 

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Well I think, the rumoured low cost iPad mini is a response to Fire and low cost tablets.

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Thats good for us consumers.

I dont like and wont buy Amazon tablet/phone. But they will force Apple to reduce iPhone prices, which I think is good.

 

You're talking about a company that's made a name for itself selling a 15" laptop for $2800. Nobody forces Apple to do ANYTHING.

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This is interesting. What's their angle? Are they aiming for the cheapest smartphone on the market?
 

Amazon will only aim at the cheap phone segment

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I get the Kindle Fire, but what's the value of an Amazon-branded phone sold at cost? Isn't this just the race to the bottom?

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Not just a laptop. The world's best 15" laptop.

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They need to partner with Facebook on their phone project.

Or Twitter. Something about all phones calls being les than 140 seconds seems liberating.

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Another Android based phone basically?

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Or Twitter. Something about all phones calls being les than 140 seconds seems liberating.

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Not just a laptop. The world's best 15" laptop.


I stand corrected.

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 But they will force Apple to reduce iPhone prices, which I think is good.

 

Not gonna happen.

 

Price of iPad 1: $499 Price of iPad 2: $499 Price of iPad 3: $499 (I should add that those prices were when the respective devices were first released of course, in case any potential smartass tries to make some useless point.)

 

Almost immediately, all over the world, after the iPad was released, rivals were having complete meltdowns, and they quickly flooded the market with the cheapest and shittiest tablets that you could possibly imagine. The average consumer now had plenty of choices, more than anyone could ever wish for, and all of those other tablets did nothing at all, it was one miserable failure after another. 

 

Amazon released their Fire tablet, running a skinned version of the poor people's operating system known as Android, and that hasn't done jack shit.

 

Apple doesn't give a shit about what these other companies do. They're like little ants to Apple, and Apple can step on them and crush them whenever they please.

 

Amazon releasing some cheap skinned Android phone will just be yet another phone amongst the hundreds and hundreds of shitty Android phones that already exist out there. 

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This is getting old...
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Almost immediately, all over the world, after the iPad was released, rivals were having complete meltdowns, and they quickly flooded the market with the cheapest and shittiest tablets that you could possibly imagine.  

 

i dunno. i'd like to think that i've imagined shittier.
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Not gonna happen.

 

Price of iPad 1: $499 Price of iPad 2: $499 Price of iPad 3: $499 (I should add that those prices were when the respective devices were first released of course, in case any potential smartass tries to make some useless point.)

 

Almost immediately, all over the world, after the iPad was released, rivals were having complete meltdowns, and they quickly flooded the market with the cheapest and shittiest tablets that you could possibly imagine. The average consumer now had plenty of choices, more than anyone could ever wish for, and all of those other tablets did nothing at all, it was one miserable failure after another. 

 

Amazon released their Fire tablet, running a skinned version of the poor people's operating system known as Android, and that hasn't done jack shit.

 

Apple doesn't give a shit about what these other companies do. They're like little ants to Apple, and Apple can step on them and crush them whenever they please.

 

Amazon releasing some cheap skinned Android phone will just be yet another phone amongst the hundreds and hundreds of shitty Android phones that already exist out there. 

 

 

Well said Apple ][.  I couldn't have said it better.

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At least 9 to 5 noted that the Amazon unicorn was going to compete with Android and iOS. In fact AI, since it's going to be a low end Android device with a low price point, it's really competing against other Android devices primarily and other devices (iOS, Windows, RIM, etc) secondarily.

Also, since Amazon is using Foxconn, will the tech media pundits including the New York Time hold Amazon fully responsible for any Foxconn wrong doings? Me thinks not since only Apple appears to be the only company that is held responsible for Chinese factory working conditions.
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Well I think, the rumoured low cost iPad mini is a response to Fire and low cost tablets.
The "low cost" and the "iPad mini" are both Just rumors ...... And, as you probably know, "two rumors don't make it right.". Lol
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I get the Kindle Fire, but what's the value of an Amazon-branded phone sold at cost? Isn't this just the race to the bottom?
Ours is not to wonder why, ours is just to buy, buy, buy. (think apps)
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A few years ago I purchased a book on Amazon and was so disappointed with it that I placed a negative review on their website.

 

Not long after that, I noticed that the review that I had submitted kept bringing up my name in Google search and, being ex-military, where the ability for people to find any information about you can be extremely dangerous, I contacted Amazon and asked if the review could be removed. They declined.

 

Now they want to sell me a device that would contain all of my personal information, after displaying such a lack of customer consideration?

 

Blow me, Amazon.

 

Blow me very hard.

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。。。being ex-military, where the ability for people to find any information about you can be extremely dangerous, I contacted Amazon and asked if the review could be removed. 。。。

Blow me, Amazon.

 

Blow me very hard.

So you posted a public review on the world's most famous online store even though you knew it could be "extremely dangerous"?. 

 

I guess too many vegemite sandwiches will do that to you. 

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So you posted a public review on the world's most famous online store even though you knew it could be "extremely dangerous"?. 

 

I guess too many vegemite sandwiches will do that to you. 

 

At the time the comment was posted there was no issue regarding danger.

 

Amazon wasn't even very big back then, and none of their Terms and Conditions explained that the email address supplied to create an account would become a publicly viewable username. There was no option to create your own username.

 

At a later point, when the potential for danger was there, the request and consideration of the customer suddenly became a non-issue for Amazon over their desire for a single review, despite the fact that it could quite easily be removed from a technical point of view.

 

Do you think this falls within the category of good customer service?

 

Do you also think they'll be selling me, my family, and friends, many 'Amazon Phones' now?

 

By the way, if the definition of 'Racism' is 'behavior or beliefs motivated by racial stereotypes', would you consider your comment regarding 'vegemite sandwiches' to fall within this category?

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I cannot wait to get hold of my Dwidle or is that their shares
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Firefox is also claiming to have a mobile OS appearing on smartphones beginning this next year, with backing from Sprint in the US, ZTE, Deutsche Telecom, Telefonica and others. They're targeting FirefoxOS for entry-level phones initially, with Chinese manufacturers showing the most interest.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9228770/Mozilla_promises_Firefox_OS_phones_in_early_2013?taxonomyId=77

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Firefox is also claiming to have a mobile OS appearing on smartphones beginning this next year, with backing from Sprint in the US, ZTE, Deutsche Telecom, Telefonica and others. They're targeting FirefoxOS for entry-level phones initially, with Chinese manufacturers showing the most interest.

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9228770/Mozilla_promises_Firefox_OS_phones_in_early_2013?taxonomyId=77

 

Good Lord.

 

Next thing you know KFC and McDonalds will be in the OS business...

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Forcibly tied to your Amazon account, monthly bills are paid through the credit card you have on file with them.

Yes, likely US only, operating as an MVNO.

 

I think that Apple should consider doing this -- and offer tethering, a reasonable shared data plan, etc.

 

the trick is for Apple to become the customers cell services provider without  it becoming an adversarial relationship.

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They need to partner with Facebook on their phone project.
Or Twitter. Something about all phones calls being les than 140 seconds seems liberating.

 

Ha!

 

"Hello, I must be going..."

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Not gonna happen.

 

Price of iPad 1: $499 Price of iPad 2: $499 Price of iPad 3: $499 (I should add that those prices were when the respective devices were first released of course, in case any potential smartass tries to make some useless point.)

 

Almost immediately, all over the world, after the iPad was released, rivals were having complete meltdowns, and they quickly flooded the market with the cheapest and shittiest tablets that you could possibly imagine. The average consumer now had plenty of choices, more than anyone could ever wish for, and all of those other tablets did nothing at all, it was one miserable failure after another. 

 

Amazon released their Fire tablet, running a skinned version of the poor people's operating system known as Android, and that hasn't done jack shit.

 

Apple doesn't give a shit about what these other companies do. They're like little ants to Apple, and Apple can step on them and crush them whenever they please.

 

Amazon releasing some cheap skinned Android phone will just be yet another phone amongst the hundreds and hundreds of shitty Android phones that already exist out there. 

 

Didn't Amazon rename their tablet as "under-Fire", "Fire in the hole" or somesuch?

 

Maybe they should call their phone "whelmed".

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Let me guess?...  

 

Apple iPad lead to Amazon Kindle's "Fire"

 

Apple iPhone will lead to Amazon's me too version called "Ember" or maybe just 'ashes'???

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Forcibly tied to your Amazon account, monthly bills are paid through the credit card you have on file with them.

As opposed to forcibly tied to an iTunes account, monthly bills paid through a credit card you have on file with Apple? 😳
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As opposed to forcibly tied to an iTunes account, monthly bills paid through a credit card you have on file with Apple? 😳

 

Yes, but the difference is that we can trust Apple.

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Amazon will only aim at the cheap phone segment

 

But you just said it would "force" Apple to lower prices. So which is it?

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This is interesting. What's their angle? Are they aiming for the cheapest smartphone on the market?
 

 

Amazon's business model is almost the diametric opposite of Apple's. Apple provides content to sell hardware, Amazon provides hardware to sell content.

 

Amazon don't care about the phone business, but people consume media on phones and Amazon want people to buy those media from Amazon, not Apple or Google.

 

They'll most likely subsidise the Kindle phone heavily, just like they do with the Fire. If they could give it away, they would.

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Thats good for us consumers.

I dont like and wont buy Amazon tablet/phone. But they will force Apple to reduce iPhone prices, which I think is good.

amazon own't force apple to do anything, just don't hold your breath for a cheaper iPhone.


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A few years ago I purchased a book on Amazon and was so disappointed with it that I placed a negative review on their website.

 

Not long after that, I noticed that the review that I had submitted kept bringing up my name in Google search and, being ex-military, where the ability for people to find any information about you can be extremely dangerous, I contacted Amazon and asked if the review could be removed. They declined.

 

Now they want to sell me a device that would contain all of my personal information, after displaying such a lack of customer consideration?

 

Blow me, Amazon.

 

Blow me very hard.

yeah, i dropped amazon 15 years ago when they came out with a public statement that said they 'COULD NOT' guarantee that information such as a ssn or driver's license number, would be protected—something like that. it's been a very long time. haven't used them since.

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Good Lord.

Next thing you know KFC and McDonalds will be in the OS business...

Or Justin Bieber, lol....
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I think they just need to add phone circuitry to the Fire. By the time they do that, Android phones will be near the 7" range.

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