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The Note is probably the most obnoxious phone I have ever had the misfortune of holding. And now it will be even bigger... Yay?
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I have an uncle who is far sighted. He purchased one of these and likes it because he can read the caller ID and see the numbers on the keypad without putting on his reading glasses. Basically the Galaxy Note is like those large button phones and large digit alarm clocks.

 

I have a Samsung Galaxy Nexus with a 4.65" screen and it is definitely too big for comfortable one-handed operation. I can do it, but to reach the top or bottom of the phone requires shifting the phone in your hand. I'm just waiting for the day when I loose my grip during a shift and drop the phone on concrete.

 

My next phone is going to have a 4.1" inch screen or smaller. Anything bigger is awkward for one handed use.

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I found dude to be as offensive as Scooter. You can't tell me that he didn't mean it in a derogatory manner.

{There is difference in inflection]

Well the way I meant it was more of exclamation than as a name. So offense was not intended.

And to be offended by "Scooter" would assume I care about what you think about me. I don't know you so I can't be offended by your opinion of me. I'm sure your a nice guy and all but I'm a big boy and just felt that going to name calling was funny.
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I have an uncle who is far sighted. He purchased one of these and likes it because he can read the caller ID and see the numbers on the keypad without putting on his reading glasses. Basically the Galaxy Note is like those large button phones and large digit alarm clocks.

 

I have a Samsung Galaxy Nexus with a 4.65" screen and it is definitely too big for comfortable one-handed operation. I can do it, but to reach the top or bottom of the phone requires shifting the phone in your hand. I'm just waiting for the day when I loose my grip during a shift and drop the phone on concrete.

 

My next phone is going to have a 4.1" inch screen or smaller. Anything bigger is awkward for one handed use.

 

I'm sure that Apple realizes that making a larger screen for the iPhone will snag a few extra buyers but going over 4" would might end up losing existing customers. Anyone that likes the old form factor would still be able to buy the 4S.

 

As someone mentioned, though, the Note is not used as a phone in the traditional sense (ie. bt headset) and I can understand how someone would prefer the larger screen as it would better bridge the gap between a tablet and a phone... imho.

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post #125 of 225
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Well the way I meant it was more of exclamation than as a name. So offense was not intended.
And to be offended by "Scooter" would assume I care about what you think about me. I don't know you so I can't be offended by your opinion of me. I'm sure your a nice guy and all but I'm a big boy and just felt that going to name calling was funny.

 

As I thought that you had to resort to "dude".

 

... and, to me, Scooter is just an exclamation in response to "dude".

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As I thought that you had to resort to "dude".

... and, Scooter, is just an exclamation by me in response to "dude".

No, there was a difference in intent. Dude isn't commonly considered derogatory. I've never heard anyone described as a "cool scooter". I've never The Big Lebowski proclaim himself as "The Scooter". The only affectionate way of calling anyone "Scooter" is when referring to a child. In any other instance it is meant to imply that you are calling me a child. This would imply that I am less than you in as much it's use is intended to be derogatory in nature and intent?

By the way, a 5" iPhone represents a similar issue in size differentiation from the iPhone as the 7" iPad does to the regular iPad.

Does 5 inches significantly improve the iPhone? Does 7" improve the the iPad significantly?

They are tweener niche markets.
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No, there was a difference in intent. Dude isn't commonly considered derogatory. I've never heard anyone described as a "cool scooter". I've never The Big Lebowski proclaim himself as "The Scooter".
By the way, a 5" iPhone represents a similar issue in size differentiation from the iPhone as the 7" iPad does to the regular iPad.
Does 5 inches significantly improve the iPhone? Does 7" improve the the iPad significantly?
They are tweener niche markets.

 

Not commonly but in your case it was obvious that the intent was to demean. As in: "Hey dude, how's it hanging!" as compared to, "Look, dude, this is the way it is and that's it."

 

Inflection. {As in when someone tells someone to "Shut it!", you pretty much know how that person thinks.]

 

By the way, for a guy that says he doesn't care you sure seem to be putting on a show.

 

... and, just like the other guys you are stating to go all over the board to try and fill in the cracks of your argument. No use giving a reply... you'll just keep moving the goalposts.


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post #128 of 225
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Not commonly but in your case it was obvious that the intent was to demean. As in: "Hey dude, how's it hanging!" as compared to, "Look, dude, this is the way it is and that's it."

Inflection.

By the way, for a guy that says he doesn't care you sure seem to be putting on a show.

... and, just like the other guys you are stating to go all over the board to try and fill in the cracks of your argument. No use giving a reply... you'll just keep moving the goalposts.

I haven't moved a goal post. Now you think that a 5 inch iPhone would be niche. It is roughly the same size difference to the standard iPhone form factor as the smaller iPad would be to the standard size.

That is a contradiction on your part. The truth is, that in that size range there are more form vs function compromises in the long run than there is in having two distinct product categories. Anything in the middle would come off looking like a El Camino. Cult classic? Sure, useful for most people? Nope.
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I haven't moved a goal post. You think that a 5 inch iPhone would be niche. It is roughly the same size difference to the standard iPhone form factor as the smaller iPad would be to the standard size.
That is a contradiction on your part. The truth is, that in that size range there are more form vs function compromises in the long run than there is in having two distinct product categories. Anything in the middle would come off looking like a El Camino. Cult classic? Sure, useful for most people? Nope.

 

 

Har! You never read my other replies to other people. I think a 5.5" device would be great... if there isn't a 7" iPad. It's the first time I've considered something other than Apple.

 

Cult classic?... you really haven't been following Samsung's sales reports regarding the original Note, have you.

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Har! You never read my other replies to other people. I think a 5.5" device would be great... if there isn't a 7" iPad.

Cult classic... you really haven't been following Samsung's sales reports regarding the original Note, have you.

And yet a device close to that form factor exists and you still haven't purchased it.

But as much of a freak show El Camino device that the Samsung is, at least it is distinct in where it sits.

Does it fit in your pocket? Yes, but barely for some.
Would you walk around carrying it? Yes because it fits in your pocket and it is a phone.
Would you need a bag? No.

It is more of a true convergence device who's compromises are far more livable. It doesn't require the need for another device in most casually mobile situations.

And yet, it is still a pretty niche device by your own admission.
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And yet a device close to that form factor exists and you still haven't purchased it.
But as much of a freak show El Camino device that the Samsung is, at least it is distinct in where it sits.
Does it fit in your pocket? Yes, but barely for some.
Would you walk around carrying it? Yes because it fits in your pocket and it is a phone.
Would you need a bag? No.
It is more of a true convergence device who's compromises are far more livable. It doesn't require the need for another device in most casually mobile situations.
And yet, it is still a pretty niche device by your own admission.

 

You still don't get the point about the OS, do you. I realize it makes no difference to you... but it does to me, as it does to quite a few others. If Apple does not make a 7" device in the next year then I will have to seriously consider the 5.5" Samsung Note.

 

... and where did I say the Note was a niche device. Now you are putting words in my mouth.

 

All over the map... dude...

 

[I find your attraction to my posts very touching... for a guy who doesn't care about what I think]

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post #132 of 225
Here are the words I put into your mouth:
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I'm sure that Apple realizes that making a larger screen for the iPhone will snag a few extra buyers but going over 4" would might end up losing existing customers. Anyone that likes the old form factor would still be able to buy the 4S.

As someone mentioned, though, the Note is not used as a phone in the traditional sense (ie. bt headset) and I can understand how someone would prefer the larger screen as it would better bridge the gap between a tablet and a phone... imho.

That doesn't read to me like it is a true one size fits all category. Would over 4" grab more or less customers?

Don't know about you but I don't see lots of BT headsets out there anymore. I don't think people want to go back to that because of the phone size. Especially if it isn't used as much as a phone but is such a pain to dig it out of your pocket to take a call. Who wants to wear a extra piece of equipment other than when driving?

That sounds like a significant compromise to me. More pairing, another charger, another $90.

I said "I don't care what you think about me." I never said I was offended by a name.

This is just a little debate over a luxury device.
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Here are the words I put into your mouth:
That doesn't read to me like it is a true one size fits all category. Would over 4" grab more or less customers?
Don't know about you but I don't see lots of BT headsets out there anymore. I don't think people want to go back to that because of the phone size. Especially if it isn't used as much as a phone but is such a pain to dig it out of your pocket to take a call. Who wants to wear a extra piece of equipment other than when driving?
That sounds like a significant compromise to me. More pairing, another charger, another $90.

 

imho, a 4" phone would be better for the iPhone than a 4.5" screen size. People are used to the iPhone being of a certain size and being able to use it comfortably with one hand. At the same time the competitors are showing that there is a huge market for a larger screen size. Apple must find a compromise to suit both camps while leaning, of course, to existing customers more than new customers. 4" seems to be perfect imo.

 

My second paragraph was not meant to compare the note to a phone. It was meant to compare the Note to a portable tablet. I can definitely see it selling well to the business crowd... it definitely fits well inside a suit coat pocket and can serve as a note taker, tablet, phone (with or without BT headset). According to Samsung it sells well (over 5 million), well enough to warrant bringing out a larger version.

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imho, a 4" phone would be better for the iPhone than a 4.5" screen size. People are used to the iPhone being of a certain size and being able to use it comfortably with one hand. At the same time the competitors are showing that there is a huge market for a larger screen size. Apple must find a compromise to suit both camps while leaning, of course, to existing customers more than new customers.

My second paragraph was not meant to compare the note to a phone. It was meant to compare the Note to a portable tablet. I can definitely see it selling well to the business crowd... it definitely fits well inside a suit coat pocket and can serve as a note taker, tablet, phone (with or without BT headset). According to Samsung it sells well (over 5 million), well enough to warrant bringing out a larger version.

And that is what is called a "niche market". Success can be found in niche categories, but that is not a segment that Apple caters to.

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I'm sure that Apple realizes that making a larger screen for the iPhone will snag a few extra buyers but going over 4" would might end up losing existing customers. Anyone that likes the old form factor would still be able to buy the 4S.

As someone mentioned, though, the Note is not used as a phone in the traditional sense (ie. bt headset) and I can understand how someone would prefer the larger screen as it would better bridge the gap between a tablet and a phone... imho.
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And that is what is called a "niche market". Success can be found in niche categories, but that is not a segment that Apple caters to.

 

What the hell.. there you go increasing the field and scattering your thoughts all over the place. you are all over the map. Stick to one argument... it's difficult trying to follow you.

 

Let me help you:

 

1. 4" iPhone good compromise between existing and new customers

 

2. Samsung Note good compromise between tablet and phone. Some have said it appears to be defining a new category similar to the way the iPad defined a new category.

 

By the way...what the hell are you talking about... Apple has been a niche company since the Mac was first released.

 

1. The Mac holding less than 5% of the market for years and years and years. 2. The CEO talking about capturing 1% of the smartphone market

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By the way...what the hell are you talking about... Apple has been a niche company since the Mac was first released.

You miss the understanding there. Apple makes computers for the majority. The computers they make serve the needs of the majority, not niches. That they're only purchased by a minority is not the point being made.
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2. The CEO talking about capturing 1% of the smartphone market

It's pretty clear he never actually believed that. He was lowballing to kick up the stock prices.

Now, back to the first part. As of late, some of Apple's computers have been falling further into niches. Let's look at the 17" MacBook Pro. If Apple is a "niche company", they would have kept it around.

They didn't. They're not. The majority of purchases are the other models, so the other models remain.

The Mac Pro, too, has fallen into a niche, but that's to be expected, as it was doomed to this fate since the name change and Intel transition. Now Tim Cook claims there'll be a new Mac Pro next year. One can only assume it's going to be a more mainstream computer. But what does that imply?

The Mac Mini already serves the needs of the low end, and the iMac serves the needs of the middle. The Mac Pro therefore needs to be changed to serve the ENTIRETY of the high-end, not just "workstation" needs. I even want the new Mac Pro to take sales away from the 27" iMac, because pros are jumping back up to it.
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What the hell.. there you go increasing the field and scattering your thoughts all over the place. you are all over the map. Stick to one argument... it's difficult trying to follow you.

Let me help you:

1. 4" iPhone good compromise between existing and new customers

2. Samsung Note good compromise between tablet and phone. Some have said it appears to be defining a new category similar to the way the iPad defined a new category.

By the way...what the hell are you talking about... Apple has been a niche company since the Mac was first released.

1. The Mac holding less than 5% of the market for years and years and years. 2. The CEO talking about capturing 1% of the smartphone market

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I'm sure that Apple realizes that making a larger screen for the iPhone will snag a few extra buyers but going over 4" would might end up losing existing customers. Anyone that likes the old form factor would still be able to buy the 4S.

As someone mentioned, though, the Note is not used as a phone in the traditional sense (ie. bt headset) and I can understand how someone would prefer the larger screen as it would better bridge the gap between a tablet and a phone... imho.

My argument is this:
Although a seven inch iPad will sell initially, the justification of ground breaking portability of the device is an exaggeration. It, in many ways will be no more portable than a regular iPad.

Again Seven inch iPad:
Can you carry it in your pocket?
Would you be more likely to just carry it around? Assuming you have a smart phone.
Will you end up putting it in a bag of some sort?

Ten inch iPad:
Can you carry it in your pocket?
Would you be more likely to just carry it around? Assuming you have a smart phone.
Will you end up putting it in a bag of some sort?

If, the seven inch iPad addressed two of those three things then I'd say it is an improvement in portability over a regular iPad.

What is so hard to understand about that?

Someone cracked a joke about SUV sales in regards to my analogy. Well, all the effort at focusing on a at the time a "niche" American segment with little return only got GM bailed out by the Government, Chrysler sold to Fiat and Ford barely holding on. Because the Big Three didn't recognize a fad from what people really need and will still continue to buy when money got tight. Instead they diluted the market with various sizes of SUV's and when gas prices rose they were stuck holding the bag.

The middle ground of the tablet, phone or Phablet is a fashion niche market. It would dilute the Apple brand to start making to many products. With more product sizes margins get trimmed. The TV industry is a perfect example of low margins. Product differentiation along with the necessity to build many different sizes of the same essential product is not cheap.

So to sum it all up, in the long run I think it would be foolish for Apple to chase the Goldielocks market/mentality such as yourself.

Im still waiting for the iPhone nano that everyone thought we "needed" even though the current trend is that screens are getting larger.
Edited by bmason1270 - 7/7/12 at 10:50am
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It's pretty clear he never actually believed that. He was lowballing to kick up the stock prices.
Now, back to the first part. As of late, some of Apple's computers have been falling further into niches. Let's look at the 17" MacBook Pro. If Apple is a "niche company", they would have kept it around.
They didn't. They're not. The majority of purchases are the other models, so the other models remain.
The Mac Pro, too, has fallen into a niche, but that's to be expected, as it was doomed to this fate since the name change and Intel transition. Now Tim Cook claims there'll be a new Mac Pro next year. One can only assume it's going to be a more mainstream computer. But what does that imply?
The Mac Mini already serves the needs of the low end, and the iMac serves the needs of the middle. The Mac Pro therefore needs to be changed to serve the ENTIRETY of the high-end, not just "workstation" needs. I even want the new Mac Pro to take sales away from the 27" iMac, because pros are jumping back up to it.

 

The Mac was a niche product for years and years and years, selling to education and the graphics market... and eventually trying to sell to the majority but failing badly, even losing the education market. It's true, SJ changed all of that... but did Steve truly believe that the iPhone and iPad would  turn out to be anything other than niche products. How many others believed the iPad would fail. It was never expected to succeed by most (except for SJ and a few others, maybe)

 

In the same sense, did Samsung really foresee 7-10 million in sales for the Note. Now it seems that, like the iPad, they (Samsung) have found a product that could turn out to have its own category. Nobody can tell me that they are not trying to sell that product to the majority. By building a larger Note they seem to be exploring that possibility. It could be that others were throwing their R&D into the wrong category (7" tablets). Maybe a product like the Note will be the real success story. It seems to have found a wider audience than current 7" tablets, although 'if" Apple builds one then that might change.

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The Mac was a niche product for years and years and years, selling to education and the graphics market... and eventually trying to sell to the majority but failing badly, even losing the education market. It's true, SJ changed all of that... but did Steve truly believe that the iPhone and iPad would  turn out to be anything other than niche products. How many others believed the iPad would fail. It was never expected to succeed by most (except for SJ and a few others, maybe)

In the same sense, did Samsung really foresee 7-10 million in sales for the Note. Now it seems that, like the iPad, they (Samsung) have found a product that could turn out to have its own category. By building a larger Note they seem to be exploring that possibility. It could be that others were throwing their R&D into the wrong category (7" tablets). Maybe a product like the Note will be the real success story. It seems to have found a wider audience than current 7" tablets, although 'if" Apple builds one then that might change.

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I'm sure that Apple realizes that making a larger screen for the iPhone will snag a few extra buyers but going over 4" would might end up losing existing customers. Anyone that likes the old form factor would still be able to buy the 4S.

As someone mentioned, though, the Note is not used as a phone in the traditional sense (ie. bt headset) and I can understand how someone would prefer the larger screen as it would better bridge the gap between a tablet and a phone... imho.

7-10 million Notes or 5 million? Which is it. You are swinging between 5 million total possible sales here. And you say I'm "all over the map"!
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My argument is this:
Although a seven inch iPad will sell initially, the justification of ground breaking portability of the device is an exaggeration. It, in many ways will be no more portable than a regular iPad.
Again Seven inch iPad:
Can you carry it in your pocket?
Would you be more likely to just carry it around? Assuming you have a smart phone.
Will you end up putting it in a bag of some sort?
Ten inch iPad:
Can you carry it in your pocket?
Would you be more likely to just carry it around? Assuming you have a smart phone.
Will you end up putting it in a bag of some sort?
If, the seven inch iPad addressed two of those three things then I'd say it is an improvement in portability over a regular iPad.
What is so hard to understand about that?
Someone cracked a joke about SUV sales in regards to my analogy. Well, all the effort at focusing on a at the time a "niche" American segment with little return only got GM bailed out by the Government, Chrysler sold to Fiat and Ford barely holding on. Because the Big Three didn't recognize a fad from what people really need and will still continue to buy when money got tight. Instead they diluted the market with various sizes of SUV's and when gas prices rose they were stuck holding the bag.
The middle ground of the tablet, phone or Phablet is a fashion niche market. It would dilute the Apple brand to start making to many products. With more product sizes margins get trimmed. The TV industry is a perfect example of low margins. Product differentiation along with the necessity to build many different sizes of the same essential product is not cheap.
So to sum it all up, in the long run I think it would be foolish for Apple to chase the Goldielocks market/mentality such as yourself.
Im still waiting for the iPhone nano that everyone thought we "needed" even though the current trend is that screens are getting larger.

 

 

What is so hard for you to understand that, to me, it will increase its ability to be transported. A product that is 54.3381% smaller than a 10" iPad will make a big difference.

 

The iPad was a goldielocks market initially.  [and then Apple sells 5 million of the 7" but still retains sales of 14 million 10"... hmmm... "winner winner, chicken dinner'.  Gained some more iOS customers]


Edited by island hermit - 7/7/12 at 11:02am
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The Mac was a niche product for years… It's true, SJ changed all of that…

Therefore they're no longer a niche company. The present is what matters here. What they've shaped themselves to be matters more than what they used to do.

Nintendo used to sell decks of playing cards.
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but did Steve truly believe that the iPhone and iPad would turn out to be anything other than niche products.

Absolutely!
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How many others believed the iPad would fail. It was never expected to succeed by most (except for SJ and a few others, maybe)

Sure, but that doesn't matter in the slightest. What actually happened matters.
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7-10 million Notes or 5 million? Which is it. You are swinging between 5 million total possible sales here. And you say I'm "all over the map"!

 

Comprehension is important.

 

"over 5 million" was what i said initially. I think 7-10 million is over 5 million... at least the last time I checked.

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Sure, but that doesn't matter in the slightest. What actually happened matters.

 

... and then you conveniently leave out the rest of my post about the Note.

 

Which is exactly my point as you state. "What actually happened matters."

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What is so hard for you to understand that, to me, it will increase its ability to be transported. A product that is 54.3381% smaller than a 10" iPad will make a big difference.

The iPad was a goldielocks market initially.

And an SUV has more utility than a minivan yet it is never or rarely used.

Yes 54% smaller is smaller but still not small enough to put in your pocket. You will still need a bag.

Please explain to me how your real world use will change with a product that is smaller yet not more portable as I have defined? (and I think the three examples of portability are honest real world examples).
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And an SUV has more utility than a minivan yet it is never or rarely used.
Yes 54% smaller is smaller but still not small enough to put in your pocket. You will still need a bag.
Please explain to me how your real world use will change with a product that is smaller yet not more portable as I have defined? (and I think the three examples of portability are honest real world examples).

 

Are you saying the 10' iPad is an SUV?

 

Har!

 

I know, I know... the car companies never made any money on SUVs. /s

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... and then you conveniently leave out the rest of my post about the Note.

Which is exactly my point as you state. "What actually happened matters."

And in the grand scheme of things, that's niche sales. Apple already owns the entire market, both in marketshare and profit. Punching out a bunch of units and calling them sold does not a mainstream product make.
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Comprehension is important.

"over 5 million" was what i said initially. I think 7-10 million is over 5 million... at least the last time I checked.

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I'm sure that Apple realizes that making a larger screen for the iPhone will snag a few extra buyers but going over 4" would might end up losing existing customers. Anyone that likes the old form factor would still be able to buy the 4S.

As someone mentioned, though, the Note is not used as a phone in the traditional sense (ie. bt headset) and I can understand how someone would prefer the larger screen as it would better bridge the gap between a tablet and a phone... imho.

Over 5 million could be infinite. Again, you are "all over the map." comprehend that you have swung from between 5 million and infinity to 7-10 million.
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And in the grand scheme of things, that's niche sales. Apple already owns the entire market, both in marketshare and profit. Punching out a bunch of units and calling them sold does not a mainstream product make.

 

What?

 

BS

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Are you saying the 10' iPad is an SUV?

Har!

I know, I know... the car companies never made any money on SUVs. /s


No, the SUV is a fad like the phone market only distinguishing itself now with screen sizes.

If the car companies made money on SUV's would GM have been bailed out, and would Fiat own Chrysler?
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Over 5 million could be infinite. Again, you are "all over the map." comprehend that you have swung from between 5 million and infinity to 7-10 million.

 

 

LOLOLOLOLOL.... you are a real funny guy.

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LOLOLOLOLOL.... you are a real funny guy.


Take the number range you presented me to Tim Cook and tell him to start up another factory line and see who laughs first.

Keep in mind Apple sold 37 million iPhones in the first quarter of 2012 world wide.
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What?

BS

I'm gonna need an actual rebuttal if you want me to continue responding. Apple has 60% of the tablet market (shipped) and something like 90% of the tablet market (used). Anything else is a niche, regardless of the number of units. Percentages show what units cannot.
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fAndroids equate the size of their smartphones with the hoped-for size of their genitals.  Good for them.  I'm fairly certain they'll be eventually carrying around 7" smartphones while pointing at the iPhone, claiming it is too under-sized for a real man to carry.

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You guys operate your iPhones with one hand? Gee I could hardly operate my iPod touch with two hands so I gave up on it. It's way, way too small!

 

And, FYI, my Nook Color 7" tablet will fit in my front pants pocket pretty easily, though I usually remove it when I sit down. An 8" iPad...probably not.

 

And no, I'm not a woman or child, but keep in mind there are a whole lot of women and children in the world.
 

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You guys operate your iPhones with one hand? Gee I could hardly operate my iPod touch with two hands so I gave up on it. It's way, way too small!

And, FYI, my Nook Color 7" tablet will fit in my front pants pocket pretty easily, though I usually remove it when I sit down. An 8" iPad...probably not.

And no, I'm not a woman or child, but keep in mind there are a whole lot of women and children in the world.

 

Try putting your Nook Color in your front jeans pocket.
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Try putting your Nook Color in your front jeans pocket.

Backpocket? Sure, I've done it and others have said the same. Front pocket? I'm not going to be the one to say it won't work as I haven't tried (and can't as it's elsewhere for a few days), but I don't see a logical reason to store it there. Sounds like an invitation for damage even if it's possible.

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7-10 million Notes or 5 million? Which is it. You are swinging between 5 million total possible sales here. And you say I'm "all over the map"!

 

5 Million was as of last March.  7-10 is an estimate.

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Try putting your Nook Color in your front jeans pocket.


Many of us don't wear jeans, especially in the summer. The shorts and pants I wear have deep front pockets, and while it's not so comfortable sitting down with my Nook Color in there, it can be done. Walking around is no problem at all.

 

My Galaxy Player 5.0 will fit comfortably in any pocket, as would a Galaxy Note phone, which was the topic of this thread.

 

To each their own.

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The Note is probably the most obnoxious phone I have ever had the misfortune of holding. And now it will be even bigger... Yay?

 

 

I personally think it's a great alternative to those tourists in NYC walking around with iPads taking photos - which I find the most obnoxious.

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This is exactly what I want.. I'm going to skip Samsung's new Galaxy S3 and Apple's iPhone 5 and go straight to the Note 2.

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