Originally Posted by "Apple
There are cases of "scientists" cherry picking data to suit their agenda and do they still even call it global warming? I believe that the propagandists now call it "climate change". In the 70's, propagandists were whining about global cooling. The planet goes through periods where it's both been cooler and warmer than now, long before the global warming alarmists and other ignorant people were ever born.
I do not deny that man-made pollution has some effect on the planet, but I do disagree with the extent and especially the political BS solutions and economic fascism that is being proposed by dishonest politicians and others. It is those people and their solutions that I do not like.
there is no argument about global warming, it is warming.
Yes there is an argument about the cause.
Climitologist argue the rate of co2 due to industrialisation etc will push the climate over the top of past warm cool cycles and head into a permanet heat cycle
Others say prove it or so what.
Consequences of permanent warm cycle may affect areas of food production(have you seen the temps in the Midwest) and large coastal swaths( think southern florida, etc). Or worse.
some say prove it, so what, better than paying a carbon tax
In the end what does the risk of perminet warm cycle mean? Well, just as some question the climatologist models, the neysayers don't know the actual effects either.
In the aerospace world we use a risk analysis calculation- probability and consequences. what if there was 1 in1000, 1in 1000000 chance that to continue dumping co2 leads to out right extinction because we become like Venus. At what point in this calculation of odds is action required?
Take 7 billion people all soon to be dumping co2, like the industrialized world.... Is there a point where you say enough?
On the flip side, if efforts are taken to reduce co2(and no that does not mean live in hole or other straw man arguments)... These unknowns may be avoided or greatly reduced.
An interesting ironic aside, pollution restrictions may make things worse. Pollution particulates(think volcanoe ash) reflect sunlight! Can't win. I'm with solip... Essentially in the end there are too many people.
Back to topic... It would be nice if apple would explain how they or others should recycle these products.