Originally Posted by catchblue22
On my 2007 MPB I've bought three new batteries, the third from an alternate supplier as Apple doesn't make them anymore. I have upgraded my hard drive twice - 250GB to 500GB to 750GB. I upgraded the RAM to the maximum, and I had the display fixed under Applecare.
The only thing you can't do to the new Retina MacBook Pro is the RAM. Everything else is just as changeable as your existing MBP. Granted, I'm taking liberty with the batteries - but there is precident as there are replacement batteries for the iPad - if the Retina MacBook Pro is the least bit successful and ships in any volume, the aftermarket will rise to the challenge.
My machine runs fast and well, and my goal is to get 8 years out of it.
And? The new "sealed" machine will self destruct after 4 years? I don't follow your logic.
As for OWC having SSD upgrades, I didn't know that. The Apple website says specifically to buy the largest SSD that you need as it is NOT upgradeable. The SSD interface IS proprietary, which will prevent installation of a standard interface SSD and thus limit my choice.
Apple hasn't promoted RAM upgrades in their notebooks, especially their recent ones, yet it's common knowledge that you could get third party upgrades. I think people are failing to note that there ARE third party SSD alternatives because they want to believe the hype and have something to complain about. And yes, the memory is not upgradeable - but again, there are lots of things in previous generation laptops that weren't either - graphics configurations, CPU types - and yet people have always weighed the purchase cost vs. the long term benefits. I fail to see how this is different, other than something that hasn't been an up front decision before. Memory slots and connectors take up space - critical space for these new designs.
As far as limiting choice - whatever. You can't have it all ways. Life is ALWAYS about compromises. If the compromises Apple chose to make in order to make the Retina MBP or Air aren't your cup of tea then don't buy it
. But for some, like me, the compromises are no big deal because the result is far more important than what was changed.
Ironically in arguing for "choice" your arguing really for less choice because you don't want to accept anything for anyone that doesn't fit your narrow parameters of what is acceptable. The Air and Retina MBP are exciting to me because they are very different
in compelling and exciting ways. What PC vendor would have the balls to create such a design and the withstand the withering criticism of folks such as yourself?
Not many. Microsoft knows this - it's why they felt forced to create the Surface.
So even though you personally don't care for the memory and batteries, you should still appreciate the bigger picture in that with their being willing to deviate from the "norm" Apple is creating MORE choice, not less. Without the MacBook Pro and MacBook Air, we'd all be running around with ugly, bulky plastic laptops that look like they are from the 90's still.
It looks to me as if OWC is building their own SSD with Apple's proprietary interface.
Funny - Windows ultrabooks are starting to sport similar form factor drives. Whether the electrical interface and connector is the same as Apple's isn't something I have looked into deeply since I frankly don't care as I have no interest in a pretender when I can get the real thing - and still run Windows on it if I feel compelled to. As long as I have at least one alternative source for my Mac, the advantages of the form factor far outweigh the potential concerns - at least for me. Windows manufacturers are probably going down the same path as Apple in being "non standard" because in ultra-slim and lightweight notebooks, every cubic centimeter and fraction of an ounce matters. Yes - your choice is limited for now
. But just like when the iMac first sported USB instead of ADB and dropped the floppy drive and it was the "end of the world", in the long run life moved on and those objections now seem ridiculous. I think the same will apply here.
I still think the battery glue issue is a problem, since there is a wire underneath the glued battery that could easily be damaged on removal.
Pay someone to swap it for you. You either appreciate the compromises to produce the form factor or you don't. If it's a big stumbling block, then get a more traditionally constructed machine like the regular MacBook Pro.
But just because you have a problem with the construction of the Retina MBP doesn't mean it has no value for anyone. I also can understand, to a point, some of your concerns - but I think if you look back to previous shifts in technology or trends such as USB with the original iMac, there is a very, very high probability that all of your issues will turn to out to be complete non-starters. I certainly feel they are dramatically being overblown. Especially disingenuous is the sensationalization of these "issues" by iFixIt. It's not like they have a vested interest and are a disinterested third party :P