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Shipping times for Retina display MacBook Pro improve to 2-3 weeks

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Apple has begun catching up with demand for its popular new MacBook Pro with Retina display, as estimated shipping times have improved to two-to-three weeks.

Shipping times advertised at Apple's online store for both models of the 15-inch Retina display MacBook Pro were shortened this week, and as of Friday, both the 2.3 gigahertz and 2.6 gigahertz models ship within two-to-three weeks.

The latest shipping estimate from the Apple Store is a slight improvement from the three-to-four weeks that were previously advertised. It's also the shortest estimated shipping time seen since mid-June.

The 15-inch MacBook Pro with Retina display was announced last month, and was heralded by Apple as "the most beautiful computer we have ever made." It takes design cues from the MacBook Air by ditching the optical disc drive and relying solely on flash memory, allowing it to have a thinner design while maintaining long battery life.

The standout feature of the new MacBook Pro is its 2,880-by-1,880-pixel Retina display that features 220 pixels-per-inch on the 15.4-inch screen. The new design also cuts glare by 75 percent by removing the glass cover found in previous models.

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Apple's top-of-the-linenotebook also features two high-speed Thunderbolt ports, USB 3.0 connections, a dedicated HDMI port, and a built-in SD card reader. The 2.3-gigahertz model with 256 gigabytes of flash storage has a suggested price of $2,199, while the 2.6 gigahertz model with 512 gigabytes of flash storage runs $2,799.

Alternatively, the MacBook Pro with Retina display is also available and in stock at Apple Authorized Resellers. Prices through these resellers can be found included below.
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This is good news, but I still haven't received mine. So I forwarded the story to my supplier with a "WTF" inquiry. We'll see what they have to say....
 

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Oh my God, that is such a lustworthy computer.
Oh my God, I am such a nerd.
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And where is the promised Thunderbolt-Firewire adapter? I need one.

 

http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/11/3078439/apple-accessories-thunderbolt-firewire-800-gigabit-ethernet

 

Is there an official statement from apple, when the new adapter will be available?

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I can't wait for all the Apple haters:

"Apple is doomed. The demand for their latest and greatest computer is dropping".
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This is good news, but I still haven't received mine. So I forwarded the story to my supplier with a "WTF" inquiry. We'll see what they have to say....

Is it not possible to head to a store for a pick up?

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And where is the promised Thunderbolt-Firewire adapter? I need one.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/11/3078439/apple-accessories-thunderbolt-firewire-800-gigabit-ethernet

Is there an official statement from apple, when the new adapter will be available?

It's odd how something so trivial can take them so long to get to market.

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I'm still waiting for mine, it's only been (just) 3 weeks, I ordered the 2.6 with 16gb of ram....can't wait!!!

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Oh my God, that is such a lustworthy computer.
Oh my God, I am such a nerd.

 

It is a very nice computer, with some outstanding aspects.  It has a great screen, and considering the form factor, it has a lot of power.

 

The price is high if one looks at the power/$ ratio, but the other aspects are good enough that if one really wants one, it is not a bad choice.  Light, pretty, great screen, enough power for most uses - all are reasonable aspects for choosing the machine over other choices.

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It is a very nice computer, with some outstanding aspects.  It has a great screen, and considering the form factor, it has a lot of power.

The price is high if one looks at the power/$ ratio, but the other aspects are good enough that if one really wants one, it is not a bad choice.  Light, pretty, great screen, enough power for most uses - all are reasonable aspects for choosing the machine over other choices.

The price is high? Fine. Feel free to show another comparable computer of comparable quality and performance that costs less. I'll wait.
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The price is high? Fine. Feel free to show another comparable computer of comparable quality and performance that costs less. I'll wait.

It's clear from his post that he's only considering generic aspects like the CPU and/or GPU for his comparison. Apple has always far ahead in areas that most can't comprehend but they aren't easily quantified on a spec sheet.

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I was pleasantly surprised they had them on the shelf at our Tampa Apple Store when i was there last week but that's only of use if one didn't want a BTO version obviously.
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What's our bet on when these will ship with Mountain Lion?

 

If I order one now, do you think it will arrive with the new OS?

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I'm still waiting for mine, it's only been (just) 3 weeks, I ordered the 2.6 with 16gb of ram....can't wait!!!

You didn't go with a larger SSD? The cost is horrible though I know. That's what stopped me. If a 750 gig SSD was affordable (or TB even better) I'd have jumped or even if it were simple to upgrade the SSD. I'm still hoping that will be made affordable as return to Apple soon. I understand Apple uses very special SSD technology and your NEWegg special is sadly not wise at present. Which has made me also hold back on a new standard MBP which I considered as a self upgrade for more SSD. Strange times we live in ... But fun.

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I find it incredible that Apple can't keep up with demand for a $3,000-$4,000 laptop.  Either they prefer to see a moderate shipping delay for marketing purposes, or a lot of people are buying these things.

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It's clear from his post that he's only considering generic aspects like the CPU and/or GPU for his comparison. Apple has always far ahead in areas that most can't comprehend but they aren't easily quantified on a spec sheet.

Obviously.

But even if only considering specs, I'd love for him to show me a computer with the following for under $2799 (much less significantly under that price):
- quad core i-7 at 2.6 GHz
- 512 GB SSD
- 8 GB DDR3 (1600) RAM
- 15" display with 5.1 M pixels
- Under 4.5 pounds

Even if someone isn't bright enough to consider anything but the specs it's impossible to say this is overpriced.
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What's our bet on when these will ship with Mountain Lion?

If I order one now, do you think it will arrive with the new OS?

Pretty good odds at this stage not that it matters, I would be a free upgrade even if it arrived with Lion.
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The price is high? Fine. Feel free to show another comparable computer of comparable quality and performance that costs less. I'll wait.

 

 

I was talking about power/$.  Reread my post and maybe then you will understand what was communicated to the readers with average comprhension.

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I find it incredible that Apple can't keep up with demand for a $3,000-$4,000 laptop.  Either they prefer to see a moderate shipping delay for marketing purposes, or a lot of people are buying these things.

I think they are waiting for more orders before they start using the second CNC router /joke
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It's clear from his post that he's only considering generic aspects like the CPU and/or GPU for his comparison. Apple has always far ahead in areas that ... aren't easily quantified on a spec sheet.

 

 

We have a winner.  Give that man a cigar!

 

"The price is high if one looks at the power/$ ratio, but the other aspects are good enough that if one really wants one, it is not a bad choice.  Light, pretty, great screen, enough power for most uses - all are reasonable aspects for choosing the machine over other choices."

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I was talking about power/$.  Reread my post and maybe then you will understand what was communicated to the readers with average comprhension.

'Power' is a hard thing to quantify these days though. How do you take Retina display into account for example or lightning fast boot times?
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Obviously.
But even if only considering specs, I'd love for him to show me a computer with the following for under $2799 (much less significantly under that price):
- quad core i-7 at 2.6 GHz
- 512 GB SSD
- 8 GB DDR3 (1600) RAM
- 15" display with 5.1 M pixels
- Under 4.5 pounds
Even if someone isn't bright enough to consider anything but the specs it's impossible to say this is overpriced.

 

 

Soli is likely able to explain it in terms you are likely to understand.  Weight? Does that fit the topic of power/$ ratio?

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'Power' is a hard thing to quantify these days though. How do you take Retina display into account for example or lightning fast boot times?

 

 

I take those  into  account by saying that they are other aspects which make the rMBP a reasonable choice, despite the price.

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You didn't go with a larger SSD? The cost is horrible though I know. That's what stopped me. If a 750 gig SSD was affordable (or TB even better) I'd have jumped or even if it were simple to upgrade the SSD. I'm still hoping that will be made affordable as return to Apple soon. I understand Apple uses very special SSD technology and your NEWegg special is sadly not wise at present. Which has made me also hold back on a new standard MBP which I considered as a self upgrade for more SSD. Strange times we live in ... But fun.
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Nah, i think the 500GB SSD should do it, the price for the 750GB was crazy.
I have the 2010 Macbook Air 11" i got that with the 128GB SSD, which really is pretty small, the 64GB would be next to useless, I knew i was ordering a pro laptop & I'm planning to put a few games & use it for 3D animation, the base 256GB SSD didn't sit well with me so i had to get the upgrade.
About a month ago i put an SSD into my windows gaming laptop, VX7 Lamborghini, its pretty easy, that laptop has too HDD bays, the SSD ruined me, i cant go back to a normal (even 720rpm) HDD
boot times & app loading times are amazing!, i have 2 NAS's & a file server, so I'm not worried about storage, man i spend way way too much on computers... 

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Nah, i think the 500GB SSD should do it, the price for the 750GB was crazy.

I have the 2010 Macbook Air 11" i got that with the 128GB SSD, which really is pretty small, the 64GB would be next to useless, I knew i was ordering a pro laptop & I'm planning to put a few games & use it for 3D animation, the base 256GB SSD didn't sit well with me so i had to get the upgrade.

About a month ago i put an SSD into my windows gaming laptop, VX7 Lamborghini, its pretty easy, that laptop has too HDD bays, the SSD ruined me, i cant go back to a normal (even 720rpm) HDD

boot times & app loading times are amazing!, i have 2 NAS's & a file server, so I'm not worried about storage, man i spend way way too much on computers... 

Lol, I hear you on the money spent. It's scarily like a drug addiction ...

I want to go the SSD plus HD route in a MBP I think which means no retina and removing the optical to take the SSD. Which SSD Did you go for, does it support TRIM?

I can't help remembering paying over 6 grand for 16 gigs of RAID storage when my company was producing and editing Tv shows for ESPN back in the mid 1990s and to think I complain about the cost of SSD!
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I was talking about power/$.  Reread my post and maybe then you will understand what was communicated to the readers with average comprhension.

Learn something and maybe you will realize that your comparison is foolish.
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Lol, I hear you on the money spent. It's scarily like a drug addiction ...
I want to go the SSD plus HD route in a MBP I think which means no retina and removing the optical to take the SSD. Which SSD Did you go for, does it support TRIM?
I can't help remembering paying over 6 grand for 16 gigs of RAID storage when my company was producing and editing Tv shows for ESPN back in the mid 1990s and to think I complain about the cost of SSD!

It really is like a drug!, i should get into the habit if selling my old stuff, i have a few powerbooks under my bed, its ridiculous.

Haha i remember being told people had even 500MB HDDs back in the day, in the 90s i don't think my brain could have understood 16GB hahaha, at the time we didn't think it was possible to fill, games were in the 10s of MB, Its nutty how far we have come, id rather get an external HDD to back my data up data is so cheap, this is why i don't get why people still want DVD drives :S i have an external DVD drive, suits me just fine.

i found the info on the SSD i got, i wish i didn't get ahead of myself, the PC parts shop didn't have the 240GB in stock i went for the 120GB, its only running the OS, but even so.

 

Its the Patriot Pyro & yes it says it supports TRIM (OS Dependent)
http://patriotmemory.com/products/groupdetailp.jsp?prodgroupid=217&prodline=8&group=Pyro%20Solid%20State%20Drives&catid=85

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When I ordered mine (10 minutes after the Apple store came back up, educational discount + back to school promo ftw), I was hesitant about whether the price premium for the retina was worth it.  After using it for 2-3 weeks, I'm so happy I sprung for it.  Definitely worth it.

 

The screen is brilliant, not just in terms of resolution, but vivid colour at literally *all* viewing angles.  I've been used to my retina iPhone for years, but at 15" it takes it to a whole new level.  The thinness and lightness takes time to sink in... my wife and I both love how you can pick it up with one hand, while open, from the side with your thumb on the palm rest and it doesn't feel uncomfortably heavy or like it's flexing under its weight. I couldn't even do that with our old 13", let alone a 15".  The SSD is insanely fast, it'll boot faster than our old macbook would become responsive after waking from sleep. It just makes the system soooo snappy in general.

 

We knew we were happy as soon as we started using it, but it didn't sink in until my friend gave me her new (non-retina) MacBook Pro to set up for her.  Both my wife and I noticed right away.... after being spoiled by ours it felt obviously thick, looked blurry-screened, weighed a ton and felt sluggish (due to no SSD).  It's amazing how all those things add up, we couldn't go back to anything else and be happy.

 

Caveat/tip: the first thing we did after boot was update the firmware... which had the side effect of giving it narcolepsy.  It would randomly decide to sleep, whenever it felt like it.  My first reaction was to reset the SMC, which worked like a charm.  Haven't any issues since.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3964

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Learn something and maybe you will realize that your comparison is foolish.

 

 

Learn to extract the correct meaning from prose and you will be foolishly incorrect less often.

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...  MacBook Pro ... felt obviously thick, looked blurry-screened, weighed a ton and felt sluggish

 

 

 

Uh  oh.  Time to don a flameproof suit!

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I was talking about power/$.  Reread my post and maybe then you will understand what was communicated to the readers with average comprhension.

If that's all that mattered, I wouldn't be looking at sleek laptops. I'd go BYO desktop Pee Cee with giant fans, overclocked water-cooled CPUs, the benchmarkiest GPU I could afford, and sinister red LEDs to advertise its powah.

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If that's all that mattered, I wouldn't be looking at sleek laptops. I'd go BYO desktop Pee Cee with giant fans, overclocked water-cooled CPUs, the benchmarkiest GPU I could afford, and sinister red LEDs to advertise its powah.

Not really. If performance per $$ was all that mattered, you probably wouldn't buy a high end system. A cheap $500 i7 system would probably be the winner - or maybe even a cluster of $300 systems. Performance does not scale linearly with price - the price almost always goes up more quickly than the performance does - at least when you're looking at all-around performance.

But you are, of course, right. Performance per dollar is clearly not the metric being used by people buying these systems.
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When I ordered mine (10 minutes after the Apple store came back up, educational discount + back to school promo ftw), I was hesitant about whether the price premium for the retina was worth it.  After using it for 2-3 weeks, I'm so happy I sprung for it.  Definitely worth it.

 

The screen is brilliant, not just in terms of resolution, but vivid colour at literally *all* viewing angles.  I've been used to my retina iPhone for years, but at 15" it takes it to a whole new level.  The thinness and lightness takes time to sink in... my wife and I both love how you can pick it up with one hand, while open, from the side with your thumb on the palm rest and it doesn't feel uncomfortably heavy or like it's flexing under its weight. I couldn't even do that with our old 13", let alone a 15".  The SSD is insanely fast, it'll boot faster than our old macbook would become responsive after waking from sleep. It just makes the system soooo snappy in general.

 

We knew we were happy as soon as we started using it, but it didn't sink in until my friend gave me her new (non-retina) MacBook Pro to set up for her.  Both my wife and I noticed right away.... after being spoiled by ours it felt obviously thick, looked blurry-screened, weighed a ton and felt sluggish (due to no SSD).  It's amazing how all those things add up, we couldn't go back to anything else and be happy.

 

Caveat/tip: the first thing we did after boot was update the firmware... which had the side effect of giving it narcolepsy.  It would randomly decide to sleep, whenever it felt like it.  My first reaction was to reset the SMC, which worked like a charm.  Haven't any issues since.

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3964

QFT. I got mine fairly quickly as well, and I'm completely enamored of it. Hella fast, much faster than I thought it would be. I am coming from a 2008 MBP, but still.

 

I'm amazed about a few things on it. The screen is indeed insane, and there don't appear to be any glowing LEDs anywhere on its exterior. Which is fine. The battery life is almost iPad like, as well.

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Dare I weigh in on this flame war?

 

I've never purchased a fully loaded computer before and I almost never buy the latest version of anything--I usually shoot for version X.2. But I did order the absolutely fully loaded MacBook Pro. It wasn't an addiction or because I'm bad at math. It was an utterly rational decision and this was my thought process:

 

1. I keep my computers a really long time. I'm typing this on a MacBook that I've been using for 5 years. If adding the extra 256 GB to the SSD extends the useful life of the computer from year 4 to year 5, then it's money well spent. I don't know if it will. It's a gamble.

2. I run a startup on my Mac but do scientific application development in support of our R&D on a PC running Matlab. I've beat the MacBook to hell and the PC is way too slow for the computations that I perform. Buying this one Mac with all of the RAM and SSD to run both environments will displace at least a $1500 PC as well, so there's savings on that end.

3. You can't buy a PC with as many pixels on the screen as the new MacBook. It's much easier to program when you can see more lines of code. I have good eyes for small text. Having more code and help files displayed at once lets me code faster and avoid bugs and the time saves money.

4. I often travel to Switzerland on business and Swiss Airlines has been bought by Lufthansa who now limits carry-on bags to 16 lbs or you have to pay a fee. The two computers with their cords in the large computer bag (too wide for some airplane aisles as well) would cost me money over years.

 

Basically, the difference in price between an adequate PC and my fully loaded MacBook Pro is easily offset by savings and productivity over five years. I know that I'm not the average user but I imagine that there are others out there for whom buying this product is a nonemotional decision as well.

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If performance per $$ was all that mattered... [a] cheap $500 i7 system would probably be the winner.... But you are, of course, right. Performance per dollar is clearly not the metric being used by people buying these systems.

At least for a business user (such as myself) the only metric that makes sense is dollar per dollar, rather than performance per dollar. If the extra performance returns more money than it costs, then it's worth spending (once considering the time value of the money).

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If that's all that mattered, I wouldn't be looking at sleek laptops. I'd go BYO desktop Pee Cee with giant fans, overclocked water-cooled CPUs, the benchmarkiest GPU I could afford, and sinister red LEDs to advertise its powah.

 

 

If I thought that was all that mattered, I would have said so in my post.

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It is a very nice computer, with some outstanding aspects.  It has a great screen, and considering the form factor, it has a lot of power.

 

The price is high if one looks at the power/$ ratio, but the other aspects are good enough that if one really wants one, it is not a bad choice.  Light, pretty, great screen, enough power for most uses - all are reasonable aspects for choosing the machine over other choices.

I got the base model a couple weeks ago and I was quite shocked how much faster it is than my 3.06Ghz C2D iMac. Converting a video in handbrake takes around 14 mins on the rMBP vs 45 mins on the iMac.

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At least for a business user (such as myself) the only metric that makes sense is dollar per dollar, rather than performance per dollar. If the extra performance returns more money than it costs, then it's worth spending (once considering the time value of the money).

Ah, the nail is finally struck on the head. You are exactly correct and the value of each users time has to be the key element here. If waiting to render a section of HD video is holding up a project on a tight time frame with many other people's dollars involved then there is a very diffent set of metrics at work compared to a geek playing war craft in his parent's basement.
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I got the base model a couple weeks ago and I was quite shocked how much faster it is than my 3.06Ghz C2D iMac. Converting a video in handbrake takes around 14 mins on the rMBP vs 45 mins on the iMac.

 

 

Wow.  Do you think that is because of the CPU or RAM primarily, compared to the old machine?  

 

Yours has a quad-core CPU, doesn't it?  That alone, if the software is set up properly, can make a huge difference in certain tasks.

 

And the bootup with the SSD must be a lot quicker too.

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Wow.  Do you think that is because of the CPU or RAM primarily, compared to the old machine?  

Yours has a quad-core CPU, doesn't it?  That alone, if the software is set up properly, can make a huge difference in certain tasks.

And the bootup with the SSD must be a lot quicker too.

I think it's just the CPU as Handbrake always uses 100% of each core and the rMBP is showing 8 cores, although it is actually only a quad core.

I put in a ssd in my iMac too so nothing to do with disk speed.
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