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Though Apple's products are banned from sale in Iran due to U.S. sanctions, unauthorized sales remain big business in the Middle Eastern country, according to a new profile.

Apple products illegally make their way through "underground trade routes in the Middle East and beyond," according to Reuters. Author Marcus George detailed in a story published on Friday how iPhones and iPads were once "rare and sought-after," but are now "de rigueur in Iran among those who can afford them."

Among the resellers included in the profile is "Iran Apple Center," which runs a website that looks extremely similar to Apple's official store. Citing a person familiar with the matter, George said that Apple has been attempting to shut that particular website down.

The report also features comments from Majid Tavassoli, owner of RadanMac, which is one of 100 estimated stores in Tehran that sell Apple products in spite of the U.S. embargo. Tavassoli characterized his business as "booming."

Apple products are said to be so readily available in Iran that devices can often be found at prices not much higher than they sell for in the U.S.

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American companies like Apple are barred by the U.S. government from selling products in Iran without special authorization. The goal is to curb the nation's nuclear program, particularly by hurting Iran's banks and oil industry, which are suspected of assisting in the development of nuclear weapons.

Friday's report isn't the first time this week Apple has been linked to Iran in the media. Apple Chief Executive Tim Cook also made a surprise appearance at Allen & Co's annual media retreat in Sun Valley, Idaho, to sit in on a session entitled "Iran vs. Israel."
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They are using Apple trademarks without permission. That is worth a shutdown regardless of the rest of it

And now we'll see a rash of articles on this whole Apple Iran business thanks to the alleged racism which comes from one incident where the victim keeps changing her story and about 20 more that cant be proven they were ever in an Apple store much less that things went as they claim (but weren't upset enough to talk about it until after this first case hit the press)

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post #3 of 29
Seems that Apple is the one thing on which the whole world can agree.

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Seems that Apple is the one thing on which the whole world can agree.

Agree or disagree it gets page hits and media attention. That's all it needs to be for many folks

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The last paragraph wins the non sequitur of the day award in my book.

Meanwhile, I don't see this as all bad. At least it shows the general inhabitants of Iran are not being swayed into believing all things American are evil by the religious nut jobs at the helm.
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post #6 of 29

Launch nuclear bombs with a single tap?

 

There's an app for that.

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Launch nuclear bombs with a single tap?

There's an app for that.

Not funny. Nuclear weapons are not a laughing matter, as the Americans have demonstrated in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
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As soon as the Sharia was
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The in crowd say it's cool!

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This headline and article are a bit misleading. Iran has not banned Apple products, and nobody except for the Iranian government can ban sales in the own country.

The US do not allow exporting to the Iran. That is something completely different, and really no story whatsoever. Iran buys weapons, nuclear materials, construction plans for nuclear submarines and other niceties despite that not being possible. Actually, the US-Iran trade volume went up over 800% starting the very moment Mr. Bush Jr. declared a total embargo. So, how is Apple the story here?
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Seems that Apple is the one thing on which the whole world can agree.

 

LOL, except for about a third of the posters at tech media sites.

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Apple products illegally make their way through "underground trade routes in the Middle East and beyond," according to Reuters

The original article has some other interesting information about how they access iTunes. Not so sure about the 'underground' routes as the quotes from the Apple sellers in the article mention ordering direct from Hong Kong and Malaysia as well Turkey and Dubai

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Not so sure about the 'underground' routes as the quotes from the Apple sellers in the article mention ordering direct from Hong Kong and Malaysia as well Turkey and Dubai

These 'underground routes' may come into play when people try to avoid import taxes, they are absolutely not needed to bring Apple products into the country. There are plenty of countries internationally that do not honour US embargoes (and Apple has no way to control sales beyond the first delivery point).
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These 'underground routes' may come into play when people try to avoid import taxes, they are absolutely not needed to bring Apple products into the country.

 

 

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This headline and article are a bit misleading. Iran has not banned Apple products, and nobody except for the Iranian government can ban sales in the own country.

Apple products are not banned by the the Iran government and can be sold openly however not so with the evil Barbie doll. Those definitely take the underground route and are sold only on the black market as they are banned in Iran.

 

tattoo-barbie-doll.jpg


Edited by mstone - 7/13/12 at 9:10am

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Apple products are not banned by the the Iran government and can be sold openly however not so with the evil Barbie doll. Those definitely take the underground route and are sold only on the black market as they are banned in Iran.

tattoo-barbie-doll.jpg

Haha! If there has ever been one ban I can happily agree with, then you certainly just found it!
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Seems that Apple is the one thing on which the whole world can agree.


Nah, I reckon water and air are more widely agreed upon.

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Nah, I reckon water and air are more widely agreed upon.

Water is fought over. And air is fought for.

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post #20 of 29
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Apple products are not banned by the the Iran government and can be sold openly however not so with the evil Barbie doll. Those definitely take the underground route and are sold only on the black market as they are banned in Iran.

tattoo-barbie-doll.jpg

A barbie doll with tattoos. Never knew. I've been out of the loop longer than I thought! 1smile.gif

Infidels!!!
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Apple Chief Executive Tim Cook also made a surprise appearance at Allen & Co's annual media retreat 

 

Not that much of a surprise it seems. Apparently he was on the attendee list from the start. 

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Apple products are said to be so readily available in Iran that devices can often be found at prices not much higher than they sell for in the U.S.
 

 

... as they are in the rest of the world.

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Not funny. Nuclear weapons are not a laughing matter, as the Americans have demonstrated in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Watch the music video for "Land of Confusion" by Genesis and I think you'd disagree...

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Not funny. Nuclear weapons are not a laughing matter, as the Americans have demonstrated in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Ahh yes but Americans will tell you "it was needed"...

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Though Apple's products are banned from sale in Iran due to U.S. sanctions, unauthorized sales remain big business in the Middle Eastern country, according to a new profile.

 

This statement is incorrect. Apple products are not banned from sale in Iran. The correct statement should be "Apple is banned from exporting their product to Iran" or "Apple is banned from selling products in Iran by the US government".

post #26 of 29

Good luck to the Iranians I hope they enjoy their Apple products. There's too much hatred in the world as it is.

 

I spent a few years growing up in the middle east. They get an unfair press in the west but most people are hard working family people and very friendly.

 

salam alaikum

post #27 of 29
American products get it, are banned from being exported into Iran. Surely, there is other legal way they could sell this w/o resorting the black market e.g. like importing through other channel or third parties. Much like weapon of war. Business as usual. Nothing to see hear. Besides, Apple gets the money it is not it is fake or anything and plenty here own Apple stock, support US business etc. Move along.
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A barbie doll with tattoos. Never knew. I've been out of the loop longer than I thought! 1smile.gif
Infidels!!!

 

LOL

 

funny, goto "barbie . com", click on the collector/designer barbie, you will find it there.

problem is that it was an extremely limited edition, and was sold-out immediately.

(IMO it was the only barbie worth owning... but I digress)

 

and for what it is worth...that barbie was probably most realistic barbie made, ironically. (all the others have the form of unrealistic expectations of the female form) 

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U.S / Iran Sanctions are a murky subject, but what's clear is that an Apple Store employee is not allowed to discriminate against anyone just because of the language they speak. There are now multiple reports that some Apple employees in Georgia are doing just that: asking what language their customer are speaking and deciding not to sell the product because "Iran and U.S. have bad relations." 

 

Apple needs to respond by reiterating its non-discrimination policy, and making sure their employees are properly trained on how the Iran / US sanctions don't necessarily mean Iranian-Americans can't buy Apple products. 

 

Here's more details about it: http://www.niacouncil.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=8319

 

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