Originally Posted by bluefish86
Agreed. But it is sadly true. I die a little inside every time I see a user who has no clue at all whatsoever how the file system is arranged. It's depressingly common on both the Mac and PC sides.
I wonder if novices and casual users had that much difficulty with the Finder and the file dialogs (the userface of the file system) in the Mac OS 6 era. Those days it was "the system folder is sacred. Other than that, do whatever you want."
I remember how much freedom we had. I, for example, organized my things inside, say, "workplace folders": my word processing folder would contain both my text editing apps and my documents' folder organization, the same happened with my image editing folder, etc. Others would, say, put all apps inside a folder and have their document folders around. It was fairly simple.
Today it is "careful with OS X side's folder organization, with your user account floating some levels deep down. At that, careful with your user account's folder organization, which mostly doesn't work as you'd expect, really. And put all your apps inside the app folder or else, more or less, and you better don't try to tidy them up inside subfolders, as updates could break." OS X made us approach Windows' level of complexity.
Also, isn't it a bit cheeky that Apple bemoans user confusion when they no longer care for doing even the tiniest amount of handholding? No manuals, no interactive courses, no videos, at all (and an abysmal help system). When you buy your first Mac, it is implicit that you aIready know how to use it, which is absurd. I remember this little interactive Finder course disk I got when I bought my Mac Classic. It helped, lots.
I'm not that much of a greybeard, meaning I wouldn't want to go back to the pre-OS X days, but OS X mightily complicated things, Finder-wise, and I don't think iOS' ways really will solve it: they don't scale terribly well as user's needs grow, so Apple'll eventually have to introduce some way of grouping, be it playlists, folders, whatever.