Originally Posted by rioviva
I actually agree with Google. On that note, I think their search algorithms have become essential for the industry. As much as I've tried switching to Bing or Yahoo, I keep coming back to Google's engine.
Those algorithms should be de facto standards and licensed under FRAND
My single search box quit working in Chrome some time ago. Mucking about with the settings I tried switching the default search engine to Bing - and it started to work again. I suppose if I switched back it would work again, but it's been months now and I've never bothered. In fact I think I prefer Bing now - which has its own biases, but at least isn't trying to direct me to Google properties above all others - with a blatant rejiggering of the search algorithm - and gunking up my results with junk results from "friends" I don't know on Google+ (tho' I see Bing is getting very facebook friendly - but at least that's a site I use and know the names from).
I do love me Google's reverse image search though for sourcing photos people post on social sites..... ...anyway, both keep developing and I try to be agnostic about "believing" in either - and use other tools as well as needed.
Originally Posted by SolipsismX
1) Of course they say that now when the entire industry is still playing catchup with Apple but remember 5 years ago how the iPhone was dismissed by so many. That's the problem with having such revolutionary technology and a slow judicial process, by the time it gets to court what seemed alien and unessential just a few years prior could seem essential. This is how technology has always worked.
"One Generation's Invention Is Necessity Of The Next" ~Unknown
2) There are some networking patents i know of, like with cellular air interfaces, that are essential because they do have to work the same across vendors to create a homogenous network, but I see no good examples of Apple's patents that are essential for the industry.
3) At least Google is acknowledging that Apple has patented tech before others. That's more than I can say for the resident trolls of this forum.
I'm on Apple's side in the current case, but looking at the whole deplorable state of IP law and litigation, I remain grateful it wasn't around at the time the Indo-Arabic number system spread around the world. That is, I suppose one could developed algebra, calculus and modern quantum physics with Roman numerals (though a bit difficult with the rights to zero belonging to the I-A patent holder)!) - but def slower and clumsier.....
On the other hand, if Einstein had held the rights to e=mc2, and licensed them to the US gov't, then all we'd have to do is sue Iran in the World Court to stop their nuke program.........
Originally Posted by Mac Voyer
This is the first time Google has just come out and admitted the truth we already know. The iPhone is too good to be patented. It has become a human right, not just a competitive product. At least we can have an honest debate.
Originally Posted by SpamSandwich
Hahaha....ha.......... I hope you were kidding...
No. I agree... ...Slide to Unlock is right up there with the 4th Amendment!!
Originally Posted by fredaroony
Why would you "hate" a company? What has Google done to you personally that you would use such strong language?
Here's a concrete example: Back when MS was acting like Google is today (before getting its ears pinned back and growing up a bit), they repeatedly sabotaged and undercut many of their ISV's, including WordPerfect, which was (and is) a superior word processing tool. This effected MY ability to work - and undercut the local economy of the state of Utah where I do business. As noted in one prominent publication of the time, after leading WP to believe DOS development was continuing, they also kept jiggering the Windows API's (even though there was supposedly a "firewall" between the Windows and Office teams in Redmond), and the article I read noted that the slogan in Redmond was, "The coding's not done until WordPerfect won't run."
Subsequently, it took WP about 18 extra months to come out with a working Win version and they never recovered from MS' head start. And I still have to use the black box of Word formatting in order to share docs with the world.
And I yeah, hated them for that. Sue me.
Originally Posted by tundraboy
Touche! Ayn Rand, the heroine of free-market, anti-goverment nutjobs, died of cancer while on social security and medicare. Perished while suckling on the teat she so despised. What a hypocrite.
All messengers are imperfect (as are all messages for that matter). You want to get into "feet of clay," bring it on with your perfect avatars, my brotha'......
...Rand was an eccentric refugee from the early Soviet Union with plenty of peccadilloes, but brought a useful perspective on society represented almost nowhere else in the world of literature, dominated as the arts are by the left. I'm a writer, and I can tell you the books haven't survived because of the fluid metaphors and great sex scenes... ..hardly great writing in her books... ...but because they contain meaty ideas (whether you agree with them or not) almost nowhere else fleshed out in fiction.
It's the same with our politics. You look at the current election and see (especially this election) a great chance for a real and meaningful debate on two starkly different philosophies on where the country should be headed - which could be highly educational to the populace as a whole. But instead we get a diet of all peripheral (at best!) red herrings all the time - a dog riding on top of a family car 30 years ago, where's the Prez' college papers, signatures on FEC documents when MR was still the titular head of Bain Cap, Birther and Madrassas junk, selected stats, talking points, spin, etc., ad nauseum. And polls, polls, polls focusing on the whole horse race aspect.....
And never a substantive debate about the real ideas espoused by either side.
Gag me with a spoon and call it eating.... ...but debating ideas solely (or mostly) by attacking the personalities of those who espouse them (either the promulgator as a hypocrite or the believers - i.e., as "nutjobs") is the first refuge of the intellectually dishonest and philosophically shallow.