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Apple will release a slightly tweaked version of its existing iPad alongside a much-rumored 7-inch model after the sixth-generation iPhone launches in early September, says KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo.

In a note to investors shared with AppleInsider on Tuesday, Kuo said Apple is set to debut a next-generation iPhone in early September and will follow up with a smaller 7-inch iPad model shortly after.

Kuo notes that iPhone unit shipments shouldn't see a massive bump during the launch quarter, however, as limited component availability, a short on-sale time and a backlog of consumers holding out for the new handset will result in only a slight sales increase.

"iPhone 5 to debut in September. But due to in-cell touch panel and casing yield rate limits, ability to offset older models' shipments decrease will be moderate," Kuo writes as one of his bullet points for the upcoming second half of 2012.

Trailing the new iPhone's launch will be a rumored smaller iPad model, also seeing a likely announcement in September following a manufacturing ramp-up in August. While initial sales of the as-yet-unannounced device will be somewhat modest, Kuo sees an impressively strong performance in the holiday quarter and estimates sales of over 13 million units. If correct, the sales numbers would put the so-called "iPad mini" out in front of its bigger brother.

The iPad mini estimates are in line with recent reports that claim Apple's Chinese manufacturing partner Foxconn is already hiring extra staff in a build-up to mass production next month.

Adding to earlier reports which claimed Apple may be tweaking the internals of the third-generation iPad, Kuo's sources say the changes won't be aesthetic and are meant to cut component costs and improve thermal performance. The modified third-generation iPad is expected to hit shelves in October.

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Source: KGI Research


While third quarter sales may be soft for the Cupertino-based company, Kuo sees huge gains going into quarter four thanks in large part to the introduction of new iPad and iPhone models. He pegs Apple's handset sales to hit 55 million in the fourth quarter of 2012 and iPad product line sales closing in on 24 million during the same period.

Also on the docket for this fall is a rumored redesign for Apple's iPod touch and iPod nano media players. At this point details are scarce, though Kuo claims the new devices will feature technology from both the sixth-generation iPhone like a larger screen as well as components from existing iOS products like the A5 processor found in the iPhone 4S.
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It's going to be a busy event if Apple is going to announce new iPods, a new iPhone, and iPads. Possible but not probable.
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It's going to be a busy event if Apple is going to announce new iPods, a new iPhone, and iPads. Possible but not probable.

Yeah, it seems like too much, and that's without including what SW changes will come with the larger display and the iTunes, iTS, and iCloud related presentations.

Then we have another event for the new Retina 13" MBPs, iMacs, possibly other Macs and new AirPort devices.

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It's long overdue for Apple to consolidate the entire iOS family of products into one big event... after all they are just variations on the same theme.
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They seem to be saying 4 separate announcements for the new iPods, new iPhone, iPad mini and revised iPad.

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I'm after a new ipod touch for the kids, iphone and imac so it would be great to get them before xmas.

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Don't forget the new Ivy Bridge Mac mini later this week. Will ship with Mountain Lion preinstalled plus a Mountain Lion Server quad core model. BTW Mountain Lion Server is a $19.95 add on to Mountain Lion Wednesday.


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Don't forget the new Ivy Bridge Mac mini later this week. Will ship with Mountain Lion preinstalled plus a Mountain Lion Server quad core model. BTW Mountain Lion Server is a $19.95 add on to Mountain Lion Wednesday.

Is the mini still at the point where the base model can not have quad core?

It would be funny if the new phone had quad core but the mini didn't. Wouldn't it? Maybe that's just funny to me..,.
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Is the mini still at the point where the base model can not have quad core?
It would be funny if the new phone had quad core but the mini didn't. Wouldn't it? Maybe that's just funny to me..,.

It's somewhat amusing.  The macbook air will probably stay with dual core cpus. The 13" pro could offer a quad option next year if intel increases the available skus. The low end has been progressing faster than the high end, even if you factor Sandy Bridge E which wasn't implemented on Macs.

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I hope people don't get their hopes set too high. As convincing as they may be, these are still rumors, after all.
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It's somewhat amusing.  The macbook air will probably stay with dual core cpus. The 13" pro could offer a quad option next year if intel increases the available skus. The low end has been progressing faster than the high end, even if you factor Sandy Bridge E which wasn't implemented on Macs.

 

When I replace my imac I will be looking for a thin 13" laptop with discret GPU.  Do you guys think that the 13" MBP with retina display with have the 650m GPU?

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It's going to be a busy event if Apple is going to announce new iPods, a new iPhone, and iPads. Possible but not probable.

 

This is why this report is highly dubious.  He's actually saying that there will be two or three separate events to announce all this stuff.  

 

His times are way off if you ask me and he really seems to be making some very elaborate guesses based on little information and some private supply line calculations that only he is aware of.  

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I hope people don't get their hopes set too high. As convincing as they may be, these are still rumors, after all.

 

People were absolutely certain that the iPhone nano was imminent. It was a question of when, not if.

 

In 2008.

 

Because if there's one thing that we know about the iPhone, it's that it's too big.

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People were absolutely certain that the iPhone nano was imminent. It was a question of when, not if.

In 2008.

Because if there's one thing that we know about the iPhone, it's that it's too big.

Even more recently, iPad 2 was supposed to be Retina. Apple was almost certainly working on it, I think it's pretty clear that it just wasn't ready then.
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When I replace my imac I will be looking for a thin 13" laptop with discret GPU.  Do you guys think that the 13" MBP with retina display with have the 650m GPU?

 

That would be my guess. The retina display needs a lot of GPU power. Still, it would be a challenge to fit that in the smaller form factor. It's not just the chip. It's the memory and the extra cooling hardware, and it is also true that the retina 13" needs to push 20% fewer pixels than the 15". We'll see.

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It really isn't like Apple to announce more than one or two major product updates and/or all-new products in a single month.  Sure, they've probably held media events for iPhone and quietly launched updated Macs in the same month.  But I think the iPhone (6th gen) and iPad mini need to be launched about a month apart.

 

Apple really likes to put freshly updated iPhones and iPads all by themselves on their home page for at least a month.  The Retina MacBook Pro is still there, after 6 weeks.  Leaving a product all by itself in the spotlight allows the media to do their reviews and to let the product propagate through print, web, and TV ads and stories.  I'd expect the same treatment for both the new iPhone and the iPad mini and possibly even the 13" Retina MacBook Pro.  (But maybe not the updated iPod touch / nano.)

 

And that would mean staggering the major releases by at least a month.  Early September, early October, early November.  And since Apple makes the most money from iPhone at the moment, it should come first.  It is, in effect, a halo product for the rest of Apple's product lines, so it should set the ball rolling in the build-up to the holiday sales season.

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So let's see: the 3rd generation
iPad will soon be called "the New New
iPad". Will wonders never cease?!
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So let's see: the 3rd generation
iPad will soon be called "the New New
iPad".

 

The 3rd generation is already out. The 4th gen will be called 'the new iPad'. The 3rd gen will be called 'iPad'.

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I love my iPad2, but if this new iPad mini has a retina display I will be all over it.

 

I skipped the iPad 3 because it seemed too heavy and thick in comparison to my iPad 2. As much as I love the retina display, I thought the iPad 3 felt odd in my hands with the extra bulk.

 

Handling my co-worker's new Nexus tablet actually convinced me of the utility of the smaller 7" size, but the Android ecosystem is too fragmented for me. Apple will kick some serious butt in this segment if they come out with a retina display iPad mini.

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I skipped the iPad 3 because it seemed too heavy and thick in comparison to my iPad 2.

 

.2lbs is "too heavy"? .3" is "too thick"?

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While this would be great news and I am anxiously awaiting the next iPhone I just don't see it happening.  Apple has always made September about the iPod and Music, iPhone would be October and November would or could be the new mini iPad with revised iPad 3 as well.  This way they would dominate the news cycle for media players, smartphones and tablets leading into Q4 for the holidays and rack up very solid sales.

 

I would of course be happy to get the next iPhone in September but I just don't see it happening.  Apple already knows a certain % of their iPhone sales are taking a hit while users wait for the next release so having minimal stock on hand at launch would not benefit them with backorders not equating into actual product shipped and sold therefore profits in the bank.  I would expect Apple to have more sufficient stock on hand for an October launch.

 

Does this mean the 3GS will finally die making the iPhone 4 the new lower entry point with iPhone 4S the mid and New iPhone (next iPhone, iPhone 5, iPhone 6) as the high end.  I mean given that iOS 6 is stripped of features for the 3GS its really not a fair product to continue pushing once the next phone launches.  Its time to retire it.

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Not gonna happen. Although I would predict that a new iPod lineup will be launched in the future with devices coming out with nfc ( for sharing photos and communicating to other new idevices) and the new 19 pin connector being thunderbolt/ usb compatible. I'm sure there will be an ipod classic with a bigger retina screen and iTunes/Ping Network built into it.. 

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I'm sure there will be an ipod classic with a bigger retina screen and iTunes/Ping Network built into it.. 

 

I'm sure there won't.

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http://www.patentlyapple.com/.a/6a0120a5580826970c012877b7884d970c-pi

 

 

YES THEY WILL.

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I'm sure there won't.

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Not gonna happen. Although I would predict that a new iPod lineup will be launched in the future with devices coming out with nfc ( for sharing photos and communicating to other new idevices) and the new 19 pin connector being thunderbolt/ usb compatible. I'm sure there will be an ipod classic with a bigger retina screen and iTunes/Ping Network built into it.. 
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You've mentioned your desires and have not backed up what you are claimiing as fact with anything of substance. I don't even know what the **** your link to that patent is suppose to prove but this is an example of how effective patents are as proof of what will come to pass: http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/26/apple-patents-access-system-for-bottom-loading-optical-drive/

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YES THEY WILL.

 

But that's meaningless. The iPod classic is dead. Has been for four years. Ping is also being discontinued.

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i do really hope they launch the new iPhone in september, rumours online say apple will reveal it on september 12th this year with a release following a week after. if they this is true i will be queuing all day for it!

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i do really hope they launch the new iPhone in september, rumours online say apple will reveal it on september 12th this year with a release following a week after. if they this is true i will be queuing all day for it!

I'm to the point I don't care! Seriously iPad has displaced my iPhone for many of my traveling or portable computing needs. I'd rather milk my iPhone 4 as long as I can so that an upgrade to iPad 4 can go through soon after its debut. iPhone is great when you need something in your pocket but when that isn't a requirement iPad wins hands down.
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If a 7" iPad model DOES surface, I want to bridge the gap between the iPhone & the full-size iPad…

 

I would try an iPad mini with a stereo BlueTooth headset (w/integrated mic) & a two-way Skype account; VOIP as my 'cell phone'…?

 

The iPhone itself is too damned small for my sausage fingers…!

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I'm to the point I don't care! Seriously iPad has displaced my iPhone for many of my traveling or portable computing needs. I'd rather milk my iPhone 4 as long as I can so that an upgrade to iPad 4 can go through soon after its debut. iPhone is great when you need something in your pocket but when that isn't a requirement iPad wins hands down.

in my opinion though i really don't see the need for a ipad at all, i do own one but only because im a die hard apple fan! i never even use it. i use my air for when i travel, i use my i mac at home but the iphone just compliments them all brilliantly. i cant count on both hands how many times it comes in handy, and the sooner they bring a slightly better tweaked version the better.

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What's the possibility of Apple merging the next iPod Touch with the iPad Mini? I doubt that they will come up at the same time with an all new iPod Touch, iPod Nano and iPad (mini)) - that simply is too much novelty at the same time, so I expect some of these rumored devices to actually be one.

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