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Apple announced on Tuesday that OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion, its next-generation Mac operating system, will hit the Mac App Store on Wednesday, July 25.

Mountain Lion will be available for download for OS X Lion and OS X Snow Leopard users at a price of $19.99. Users who bought a Mac after June 11 will receive the upgrade to Mountain Lion for free.

The announcement was made during Tuesday's fiscal third quarter results call by Apple CEO Tim Cook and is in line with previous reports from an AppleInsider source who hinted at a July 25 launch date, citing extended Apple employee working hours.

"We've also just updated the entire MacBook line, will release Mountain Lion tomorrow and will be launching iOS 6 this Fall," Cook said. "We are also really looking forward to the amazing new products we've got in the pipeline."

The new operating system brings features inspired by Apple's iOS platform, such as AirPlay Mirroring, Game Center, and tighter integration with iCloud.

Mountain Lion


Tuesday's announcement comes two weeks after Apple seeded the OS X Mountain Lion gold master to developers with no known issues. No major issues were found with the finalized version of the new OS including focus issues regarding graphic performance and quality; image and media importing, editing or viewing; and networking reliability and performance.
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10.8.1 to follow on Thursday.

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post #3 of 95

Something NEW to look forward to tomorrow.

 

I am buying once and putting on 5 machines. :)
 

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Bring it on.  Will do a clean-install and thorough testing on my 2011 MBA before I unleash it on my main iMac and the countless of Apple clients!

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sflocal, I asked how it runs compared to Lion and so far I've heard nothing but positive results.

 

Personally I'm so sick of the sluggish crash happy Lion this may be the first time I install an OS before a .1 update.  With that said I'm going to wait a few days just to make sure nothing blows-up with VMware etc..  If there are no improvements in ML Server I'll be downgrading my mini back to Snow Leopard.  I spend more time trying to figure out how to fix things than anything else....

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Bring it on.  Will do a clean-install and thorough testing on my 2011 MBA before I unleash it on my main iMac and the countless of Apple clients!

 

Tested it weeks ago here.  It's hardly any different from Lion except the consumer-oriented (iCloud) features so there isn't really much to test out before deploying if you are distributing in a work environment.  

 

I will be installing it on my home machine Wednesday morning before work.  

Unless it isn't out yet, then I will do it remotely *from* work.  :-)

 

Can't wait for that iCloud integration with iWork apps. (Finally!) 

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... Personally I'm so sick of the sluggish crash happy Lion this may be the first time I install an OS before a .1 update.  ...

 

If Lion is crashing all the time you are doing something seriously wrong.  

 

It's arguably the least crashable OS ever made since OS-X is king (queen?) of "non-crashability" in general and gets better at it with every iteration.  

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It's arguably the least crashable OS ever made since OS-X is king (queen?) of "non-crashability" in general and gets better at it with every iteration.  

 

But man, oh, man was that ever not true about the DPs. lol.gif

 

I actually had one of the Mountain Lion DPs kernel panic on me twice. Kernel panics are handled differently in Mountain Lion than ever before (than before Snow Leopard and earlier, at least; I never had Lion kernel panic, so I can't say). The computer just instantly shuts down and restarts, and instead of the Apple logo on the grey screen, you get "Your computer restarted because of a problem. Wait a few seconds or press any key to continue."

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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post #9 of 95

"Apple seeded the OS X Mountain Lion gold master to developers with no known issues."

 

Yeah, right.

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How did Apple do compared to its own projections (which have historically been conservative)?

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No plans to update.
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What time? What time zone?

 

Come on, I want to know if I should stay up until 5am! :D

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You can probably expect it on the App Store between 10:00 A.M. - 11:00 A.M. Pacific Time. Might be best to wait a few days while the initial crowd downloads it.

 

On that topic, has anyone noticed a slow down in iTunes/Mac App store download speed over the last two weeks or so? I'm on a 30Mbps network and yet most of the time I get 0.5MB/sec. Both on Mac and PC.

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It's already Wednesday here! :P

 

I've been using ML for months, and even the GM has issues that annoy me. Safari is still crashing/freezing on many tasks. 

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Can't wait. I've been running Mountain Lion DP for the last couple of months and GM for two weeks, and my MBA 11" (late 2010, 128 SSD, 4GB RAM) has been crashing like crazy.  If this shiatsu still happens when I install the retail version, amma sue Apple!  ...no actually I won't, but amma be pissed! 

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No plans to update.

 

Why not?  I've been using the DP version for months and even though it's horribly unstable, I still think it's heaps better than Lion.  It's well worth the measly $19 especially if you've also other iOS devices.  

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It's arguably the least crashable OS ever made since OS-X is king (queen?) of "non-crashability" in general and gets better at it with every iteration.  

Not on my 2010 MBP it isn't.  It has numerous freezing kernel panic issues relating to browser use and graphics card switching.  Hoping ML will be better and finally fix the problems.  I'm not alone in this.  There are numerous threads on the Apple forums about this model and Lion.

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Why not?

 

Because she's a troll.

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Hopefully Safari works better. I have found Safari to be incredibly slow with the spinning beach ball and constant "The web page is frozen, click here to reload all your pages, including 3 open youtube videos and other websites where you have to log back in" errors. 

It's still better than FireFox, and Google Chrome I have not been impressed with for the Mac (it reminds me of IE for Windows)

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I have a 2010 Macbook Pro and I am running OS X 10.8 and have had no issues at all. Though I do have the max 8GB of RAM. Not sure what your setup is.I have had all the DP’s as well and they all seemed to work pretty well minus the annoying little bugs of the new features not working like they should and whatnot. I am however doing a full clean install of Mountain Lion tonight just to purge everything since having installed all the DP’s it might have moved stuff around. Best to start fresh.


Edited by Topdrag - 7/24/12 at 3:08pm
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You can probably expect it on the App Store between 10:00 A.M. - 11:00 A.M. Pacific Time. Might be best to wait a few days while the initial crowd downloads it.
The wait may be wise simply because of congestion.
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On that topic, has anyone noticed a slow down in iTunes/Mac App store download speed over the last two weeks or so? I'm on a 30Mbps network and yet most of the time I get 0.5MB/sec. Both on Mac and PC.

Yes I have. I've noticed slowness with XCode updates too. This on an otherwise fast WiFi connection.
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Have any developers out there tried it on older hardware? Say... a 2009 MacBook Pro? Just for example...

 

Is it worth installing, or are the requirements cutting it too close? Technically I think it has all the specs needed.

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I have a 2012 Macbook Pro and I am running OS X 10.8 and have had no issues at all. Though I do have the max 8GB of RAM.

 

You can use 32GB of RAM in an Ivy Bridge (current model) and 16 in the MacBook Pros that have been available for the majority of 2012.

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You can use 32GB of RAM in an Ivy Bridge (current model) and 16 in the MacBook Pros that have been available for the majority of 2012.

 

I’m sorry I made a type I have a 2010 model not 2012. Got it fixed now.

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"Apple seeded the OS X Mountain Lion gold master to developers with no known issues."

 

Yeah, right.

 

It says there are no known issues, not that there aren't any issues at all. In other words, people just haven't found issues yet which doesn't mean that when released they won't appear.
It's a different thing to seed to mostly developers, which in many cases only test their own apps, than to seed to us consumers, who install loads of apps from several developers and mess with the whole system..

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post #26 of 95

Apple has lost the plot for content creators. So when no one is able to create content on the Mac anymore what the hell are all the consumers going to look at?

 

The most boring update in Apple history unfortunately.

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Apple has lost the plot for content creators.

 

The most boring update in Apple history unfortunately.

 

In what way? 

 

Hey, that works for both sentences!

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Because they have added nothing from what I can see which expedites content creation. 

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Because they have added nothing from what I can see which expedites content creation. 

 

So unless Apple makes it such that worse software can be churned out more quickly, they have failed…

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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You are clearly not a content creator. For consumers who wish to have a more integrated OS with social media fine. However it seems that Apple has long ago left behind it's core community and sure financially it makes sense in the short term but long term I think they may come to regret it. Their recent hardware upgrades or lack of was a joke as one simple example never mind Lion+ etc

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You are clearly not a content creator.

 

Okay.

 

Was I wrong, or did you just decide not to correct me?

 

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Their recent hardware upgrades or lack of was a joke as one simple example never mind Lion+ etc

 

Since you didn't answer the last one, I don't expect one here, but "joke" how?

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post #32 of 95
I'll wait for you guys to try it first, and then I'll install it on my iMac if reports of issues are not too numerous. (:
Edited by einsteinbqat - 7/24/12 at 4:13pm

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Tallest Skil, you clearly haven't a clue what you are talking about....

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Tallest Skil, you clearly haven't a clue what you are talking about....

 

😕

And you've yet to provide an example of what you're talking about…

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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You are clearly not a content creator. For consumers who wish to have a more integrated OS with social media fine. However it seems that Apple has long ago left behind it's core community and sure financially it makes sense in the short term but long term I think they may come to regret it. Their recent hardware upgrades or lack of was a joke as one simple example never mind Lion+ etc

Maybe if you just said what kind of content you have in mind. Do you mean video editing, sound recording, cartoon drawing, what? Because I create content all the time and my MacBook works just fine.

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Last year I upgraded to Lion right away as soon as it went online and actually experienced no major issues, besides getting accustomed to the new features. I am thinking of doing the same, but keeping a backup ready just in case. Even though I find the new features underwhelming, particularly the social-media integration and sharing, I like having the latest update of software in hopes of achieving a more stable system. Especially Safari and Mail should be more decent, although the responses have been mixed.

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Maybe if you just said what kind of content you have in mind. Do you mean video editing, sound recording, cartoon drawing, what? Because I create content all the time and my MacBook works just fine.

Maybe that poster specializes in creating grass roots fear and loathing? (although all of those last post seemed pretty effective and would have been fine having been created on Mountain Lion.)

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Last year I upgraded to Lion right away as soon as it went online and actually experienced no major issues, besides getting accustomed to the new features. I am thinking of doing the same, but keeping a backup ready just in case. Even though I find the new features underwhelming, particularly the social-media integration and sharing, I like having the latest update of software in hopes of achieving a more stable system. Especially Safari and Mail should be more decent, although the responses have been mixed.

I like to tweet and blog about each and every edit I make as I struggle through attempting to "create content" on Lion.

Perhaps some of you have read my blog?

"Random Mobile Phone Snapshots with Progressive Edits of Same — Includubg My Complaints About OS X as it Hinders my Important Work"

 

Sorry I'm kidding. I just can't resist.

 

No the link is not broken.

 

There is no such blog (see my tweet.)

post #39 of 95

I have a friend who says that Lion has been really bad for him (he says it is messing up under intensive use of multiple accounts.)

I have yet to experience that problem and have not read of any such problem with others.

I don't care for the lauchpad interface though (I'd like to reorder the screens.)

And it took me forever to get used to the new scrolling (many years of conditioning to overcome.)

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"We've also just updated the entire MacBook line, will release Mountain Lion tomorrow and will be launching iOS 6 this Fall," Cook said. "We are also really looking forward to the amazing new products we've got in the pipeline."

 

Haven't we heard this "amazing new products" song a few times already? As far as I can tell, the only really "new product" coming out of Apple in the last year is the new Retina Macbook. All the others were just improvements to existing products.

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