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For those with OS X 10.7 Lion who aren't ready to upgrade to Wednesday's release of Mountain Lion, Safari 6 is now available for download, though a Windows version of Safari 6 remains absent.

Safari 6 for Lion can be downloaded through Software Update in OS X. New features of Safari 6 highlighted by Apple include:
  • Smart Search Field. Safari now has one field for typing both searches and Web addresses.
  • Offline Reading List. Safari saves entire webpages in your Reading List so you can catch up on your reading even when you don't have an Internet connection.
  • Do Not Track. Safari can send the websites you visit a request not to track you online.
  • Password pane. Manage your saved website logins with the new Password pane.
  • Baidu. The leading Chinese search engine Baidu is now a built-in option for Chinese users.

unified browser interface

In addition to new features, Safari 6 for OS X Lion also includes improvements to stability, compatibility, usability, and security. These changes:
  • Make the swipe to navigate gesture work with PDFs.
  • Restore the state of Reading List when Safari is launched.
  • Fix an issue that affected full screen video in webpages that have positioned content.
  • Restore the user's previous cookies after Private Browsing without requiring a Safari relaunch.

The last update to Safari, version 5.1.7, arrived for Lion users in May. It automatically disabled old versions of Adobe's Flash player that don't have the most up-to-date security features.

Safari for Windows was not updated on Wednesday, but version 5.1.7 remains available for download from Apple's site.
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Said it before, but it's more relevant here: I hope I'm not the only one that hates what they've done with tabs, and I certainly hope I'm not the only one that thinks Tab View is completely and utterly wrong in its execution. It needs to be a grid, like Top Sites.

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Said it before, but it's more relevant here: I hope I'm not the only one that hates what they've done with tabs, and I certainly hope I'm not the only one that thinks Tab View is completely and utterly wrong in its execution. It needs to be a grid, like Top Sites.

It is a little perplexing why they've went for a horizontal (almost Microsoft Metro-like) scrollable strip.

 

Oh wait... excuse to use multi-touch scrolling. Never mind. :-D /s

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Did they drop RSS support?!

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Said it before, but it's more relevant here: I hope I'm not the only one that hates what they've done with tabs, and I certainly hope I'm not the only one that thinks Tab View is completely and utterly wrong in its execution. It needs to be a grid, like Top Sites.

What do you dislike about tabs?

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What do you dislike about tabs?

 

Instead of being a uniform size until the entire bar is full, they start as the full bar, cutting in half as you create more tabs, until it runs over.

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I can't stand the new tab view either.  I liked the small tab so it was easy to double click to the right of it for a new tab.  Now the tab is virtually the whole width of the Safari window with the plus sign to the far right.  I've loved Safari so far but may have to look to Firefox now.  Would rather they give us an option to have the regular tab view back though.  Glad I'm not the only one, first thing I noticed.

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Has RSS been completely removed?

 

Can anyone recommend an RSS reader. Always used Safari and have been very happy with it.

 

Shame to see it go.

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Now that everyone can have Safari 6, I'd ask that everyone goes here:

 

http://www.apple.com/feedback/safari.html

 

And request they BRING THE ACTIVITY WINDOW BACK.

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Yes...Apple abandoned RSS. Perplexes me. That was one of Safari's compelling features. Really like being able to keep up with RSS within the browser.  Don't understand why Apple would encourage a user to leave Safari to get their RSS content. RSS is used by many sites.  

 

At the moment, Reeder and Netnewswire are viable RSS options (via App store). 

 

As posted here earlier, send feedback to Apple. Personally, I'd like to see the RSS function return.

 

http://www.apple.com/feedback/safari.html

 
 
 

Edited by 2stepbay - 7/25/12 at 7:58am
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I can't stand the new tab view either.  I liked the small tab so it was easy to double click to the right of it for a new tab.  Now the tab is virtually the whole width of the Safari window with the plus sign to the far right.  I've loved Safari so far but may have to look to Firefox now.  Would rather they give us an option to have the regular tab view back though.  Glad I'm not the only one, first thing I noticed.

Does hiding the Tab bar not address what you're talking about?

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Thanks :(

 

What a shame. Activity Window has gone as well? It can't be bought back via the dev menu?

 

Would they not stop dumbing these things down. Seriously less is not always more!


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Now that everyone can have Safari 6, I'd ask that everyone goes here:

 

http://www.apple.com/feedback/safari.html

 

And request they BRING THE ACTIVITY WINDOW BACK.

CMD + OPTION + A?

Maybe its hidden in the developer menu?

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Said it before, but it's more relevant here: I hope I'm not the only one that hates what they've done with tabs, and I certainly hope I'm not the only one that thinks Tab View is completely and utterly wrong in its execution. It needs to be a grid, like Top Sites.

I humbly disagree. I really like the tab system and in Mountain Lion they added kind of what you asked for anyway, you can have all tabs in a series you can swipe between rather like a variation on Top Sites (which I hate and never use lol ). Different strokes ...
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I can assure anyone thinking about NOT upgrading to Mountain Lion from Lion should rethink. It is very stable and faster than Lion and very, very few incompatibilities. I use all Apple Pro apps and CS6. Well we all know about Adobe. ..... Nuff said.
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CMD + OPTION + A?

Maybe its hidden in the developer menu?

 

They took it away when we went from Safari 5.2 to Safari 6 in the DPs. It's completely gone. Command+Option+A is now the Inspector.

 

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…you can swipe between rather like a variation on Top Sites…


But it's nothing at all like Top Sites. If I wanted to see one tab at a time, I'd just go back to Safari 1, because that's how it has been since the very beginning. It's the same as viewing a single web page. You can't see the other tabs around, so it's just pointless to have at all. Why would swiping between tabs instead of just clicking them (and getting access far more quickly) be better than being able to pull back and see all the tabs at once and jump directly to the one you know is right (from sight)?

 

They'll fix it, it just shouldn't have ever gone out like this.

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Instead of being a uniform size until the entire bar is full, they start as the full bar, cutting in half as you create more tabs, until it runs over.

When you mentioned the change I assumed you meant the new Show All Tabs button. It wasn't until this comment that I even remembered that the tab length used to smaller which means it has become a non-issue for more over the months.

I use to click in any of the unused tab bar space to create another tab but since this change I got in the habit of hitting Command+T to start another tab. This seems faster and more efficient.

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Now that everyone can have Safari 6, I'd ask that everyone goes here:

http://www.apple.com/feedback/safari.html

And request they BRING THE ACTIVITY WINDOW BACK.

I do miss that but I've found a workaround. Mostly I wanted Activity Window to easily download videos from the web. I found this site that seems to work well with parsing out the files.


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CMD + OPTION + A?
Maybe its hidden in the developer menu?

Since the change TS mentioned that command only opens the Page Resources in Web Inspector.
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Said it before, but it's more relevant here: I hope I'm not the only one that hates what they've done with tabs, and I certainly hope I'm not the only one that thinks Tab View is completely and utterly wrong in its execution. It needs to be a grid, like Top Sites.

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Is anyone else having trouble obtaining it? http://www.apple.com/safari/downloads redirects back to the main Safari page. If I open App Store and click "Updates" I'm told there are "No Updates Available". And the latest version on Developer Connection is from June 20th. 

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Where the hell is the RSS reader!?!?! It was the best all round RSS reader! I DEPEND on it for thousands of feeds that I have to keep track of every day!

 

FFS can anyone give a temporary fix for me? Alt app? Something that will import my Safari feeds and get me on my feet asap?

 

thanks

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I use to click in any of the unused tab bar space to create another tab but since this change I got in the habit of hitting Control+T to start another tab. 

Huh? What a slip up!!! Shame on you!

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Did they drop RSS support?!

 

It's been so long since I used RSS in Safari I actually forgot about it. I know they dropped it in Mail so I wouldn't be shocked if they did in Safari also. 

 

I always thought it rather sucked in both but slightly less in Mail. I haven't quite found an indie app that I like so I'm going to toss a Lion VM into my system with just Mail (holding only my RSS) and Safari until I get things cleaned up. 

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They took it away when we went from Safari 5.2 to Safari 6 in the DPs. It's completely gone. Command+Option+A is now the Inspector.

 

Oh well. :-(

Activity Windows was nice and simple, but the Network tab in the Web Inspector does the same job and is more comprehensive - its just more text and numbers than the average layman is accustomed too.

 

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EDIT: Above picture is Safari 5 on Windows Vista (work machine blech) and it appears as if Safari 6 has no Windows download on the Apple site.

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Is anyone else having trouble obtaining it? http://www.apple.com/safari/downloads redirects back to the main Safari page. If I open App Store and click "Updates" I'm told there are "No Updates Available". And the latest version on Developer Connection is from June 20th. 

 

The Downloads page has always been a bit behind on these things. 

 

Lion updates for the 'embedded' apps were in and are still in Software Update not in the App Store. 

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Oh well. :-(

Activity Windows was nice and simple, but the Network tab in the Web Inspector does the same job and is more comprehensive - its just more text and numbers than the average layman is accustomed too.

 

 

 

But the issue for many is that they were using the Activity Window to copy media (especially videos) out of their cache. Can you do that in this tab. 

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Where the hell is the RSS reader!?!?! It was the best all round RSS reader! I DEPEND on it for thousands of feeds that I have to keep track of every day!

 

FFS can anyone give a temporary fix for me? Alt app? Something that will import my Safari feeds and get me on my feet asap?

 

thanks

 

As I posted earlier, RSS is gone. Not really a surprise. From the first Safari 6 beta, RSS was AWOL.  Reeder or NetNewsWire are 2 RSS options.
 
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That's why you don't work at Apple.

 

That's the funniest post I've read all day. You wasted absolutely no time before showing that you can't comprehend the most basic aspects of language, much less the topic at hand.

 

I used that on you because you claimed that there's no reason to change anything about the iMac. Now you're trying to use it on me because I'm claiming that there IS a valid reason to change Safari.

 

See the problem? 

 

Man, that's a good one. lol.gif

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But the issue for many is that they were using the Activity Window to copy media (especially videos) out of their cache. Can you do that in this tab. 

Activity Window did not copy out of the cache, it opened the URL and if the file happened to be in your cache already, it would just pull that one.

 

With the network tab you can right click on an item and copy its URL. You can also preview it in the larger, right hand window. As you can see I'm not on my Mac so I have no idea if the same shortcuts for downloading still work as they did in Activity Window.

 

But, if they don't, there's always CURL from the terminal.

 

curl -o http://path/to/file.ext

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Huh? What a slip up!!! Shame on you!
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Fixed! In my defense I have been using Windows on my Mac a lot lately. I'm trying to get fairly proficient in Windows Server because it's unfortunately what people expect from you as a network admin.

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That's the funniest post I've read all day. You wasted absolutely no time before showing that you can't comprehend the most basic aspects of language, much less the topic at hand.

I used that on you because you claimed that there's no reason to change anything about the iMac. Now you're trying to use it on me because I'm claiming that there IS a valid reason to change Safari.

See the problem? 

Man, that's a good one. lol.gif

I would argue you think they shouldn't have changed how the tabs are.

If someone said that they think apple was going to do this to the tabs You would have told them they were idiots.


So no, I don't see the problem.

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Instead of being a uniform size until the entire bar is full, they start as the full bar, cutting in half as you create more tabs, until it runs over.

 

Yeah, that's driving me crazy right now.  I thought I remembered that Apple did this before and then changed to the more rational way?  Awful anyway.  

 

I think I might have to ditch Safari anyway as they are making it so hard to use without dropping your personal and private stuff all over the place.  Soooooo very very tired of cleaning out history, cleaning out cookies, cleaning out search history etc. etc.  

 

Why can't someone make a browser that works for people who know how the Internet works (i.e. - able to type a URL), and don't want every little thing they did or looked at saved somewhere for the next person using the computer to see?  Even on "Private Browsing" Safari saves all kinds of things.  And why should I have to install Ghostery, YouTube extensions, and Adblockers on every browser?  The new unified search/URL bar makes Safari almost unusable if you don't want to be tracked.  

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I just downloaded on my iMac and there is no longer an empty cache?? Where did it go and how you to empty it now? I went over to my Macbook that still has the older Safari and it's there???

Anyone??

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I just downloaded on my iMac and there is no longer an empty cache?? Where did it go and how you to empty it now? I went over to my Macbook that still has the older Safari and it's there???

Anyone??

That's a good question.  And I will really miss Activity Window.

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I just downloaded on my iMac and there is no longer an empty cache?? Where did it go and how you to empty it now? I went over to my Macbook that still has the older Safari and it's there???

Anyone??

from SAFARI Help:

"Clear the entire history list

  1. Open Safari if it is not already open.

    Open Safari

  2. Choose History > Clear History, and then click Clear.

To clear Top Sites as well as your history list, select “Also reset Top Sites.” The Top Sites page is based on your browsing history.

Clearing your history also empties caches, removes website icons, and clears the list of recent searches. Website icons are small graphics that help identify sites on the Internet. You see them in the address and search field, the bookmarks list, and other places. You can see your recent searches by clicking the magnifying glass at the left end of the address and search field when it’s empty."

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Yahoo.com doesn't seem to work with Safari 6, it's just blank screened.  

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Yahoo.com doesn't seem to work with Safari 6, it's just blank screened.  

Marisa Mayer really has streamlined their site.



OK, a more helpful comment. There is something wrong with your Safari. it's likely a cache or system preference. Have you tried to reset Safari?

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I just downloaded on my iMac and there is no longer an empty cache?? Where did it go and how you to empty it now? I went over to my Macbook that still has the older Safari and it's there???

 

Develop menu.


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Yahoo.com doesn't seem to work with Safari 6, it's just blank screened.  

 

Has always worked perfectly well for me through all iterations of 5.2 and 6.

 

Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post
Marisa Mayer really has streamlined their site.

 

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Good idea... maybe that will address the other strange behavior like having to refresh after opening safari to update the tabbed sites.

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Yeah, that's driving me crazy right now.  I thought I remembered that Apple did this before and then changed to the more rational way?  Awful anyway.

Pretty sure this is the first for OS X. Plus, its not a big deal. So they moved the new tab button to the right. Not exactly black death...

 

 

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I think I might have to ditch Safari anyway as they are making it so hard to use without dropping your personal and private stuff all over the place.  Soooooo very very tired of cleaning out history, cleaning out cookies, cleaning out search history etc. etc.  

Why are you cleaning out your cookies and history anyway?

Either way, this is how its done automatically if you really need it.

Safari > Preferences > General > Remove History Items after one day

Safari > Preferences > Privacy > Block Cookies > Always or Third Parties (your choice)

 

For some extra zip, you can enable the developer menu and select "Disable Caches".

 

 

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and don't want every little thing they did or looked at saved somewhere for the next person using the computer to see?

Maybe its time to learn about user accounts, or at the very least, the Guest account. :-)

 

 

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And why should I have to install Ghostery, YouTube extensions, and Adblockers on every browser?

You do? I don't have them. Am I going to spontaneously combust without them? Oh, wait, products for paranoids. You know the cookie options in the preferences are very handy!

 

 

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The new unified search/URL bar makes Safari almost unusable if you don't want to be tracked.

Safari > Preferences > Privacy > Prevent search engine from providing suggestions

 

 

 

 

 

So by simply looking in the preferences, all of the privacy issues you have mentioned have now been resolved.

 

And the award for pointless overreacting goes to, GAZOOBEE!

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Damn!! they've removed the Backspace key shortcut!!... I was really worried, thought it was a bug... but after trying other key combinations I can use the command + left arrow key combination to go back to previous URL... better yet, I can use command + right arrow also to navigate through my used URL's... on Safari 5 those were assigned to some forgettable combinations. ME HAPPY :-)


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