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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

But… Apple's maps are terrible. This can't be. Google must have better maps. There's no way a beta can be better than a release product. 

 

Apple has hungry retina displays to feed. Google? Not so much.

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Apple is doing their best to burn bridges with Google. That's why you'll never seen street view in apple's maps.

Privacy concerns are likely the bigger reason

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post #43 of 79
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Look at the top left photo for Google Earth on that ipad.

Look next to the Wifi symbol on that ipad.

Google Earth was still rendering the image when the screenshot was taken. iOS maps had finished.

Not fair at all. I should take a screenshot of ios maps when it's all grey tiles and compare it then.

Nope, the Google 3D maps are hat amazingly bad and ugly. they are not even alpha quality and look like they need 1-2 more years learning how to render the images.
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Whatever. The race to map the earth is over. It's all about Mars. And Narnia.

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post #45 of 79
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2) can I take a wet trout to the engineer that thought using he click wheel to zoom was a good idea? Seriously? Zoom?
I thought I was the only one annoyed by this. I slight mistouch on the Magic Mouse and you are suddenly at the other end of the zoom scale!

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post #46 of 79
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Privacy concerns are likely the bigger reason
I tend to agree with this. I mean Apple has the cash to generate the street view data, and do it quickly. However if Apple were to do street view, they would in usual Apple fashion up the ante by increasing resolution (maybe then I could finally read house numbers). With all the privacy concerns Google has generated with street view, Apple would not want to incur the wrath of an angry populace or garner attention from politicians (both the truly concerned ones and the ones looking to make political hay). Like you said, it comes down to privacy concerns.

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2) can I take a wet trout to the engineer that thought using he click wheel to zoom was a good idea? Seriously? Zoom?
I thought I was the only one annoyed by this. I slight mistouch on the Magic Mouse and you are suddenly at the other end of the zoom scale!

True that. MagicMouse and Maps totally suck as a combo. That is why I actually have 2 mice on my desk; the other one being USB.
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post #48 of 79
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True that. MagicMouse and Maps totally suck as a combo. That is why I actually have 2 mice on my desk; the other one being USB.

 

Do you have backups for both of those mice? (that is, four mice in total)

 

That would be a wise and prudent thing to do...

 

 

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post #49 of 79
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I deleted everything Google of my MacBook including Google Earth, after upgrading to ML and reinstalling Little Snitch, there were constant attempts to connect to one Google thing or another, got sick of blocking them.
I wasn't really using it much anyway.

If you click on the "Forever" button, followed by the "Deny" button in Little Snitch you will not need to keep clicking to prevent Google or any other apps calling back to base. Just the once will do. I remember another poster on these forums pointing this out some time ago, useful tip.

post #50 of 79
I just updated my Google maps app and am having a lot of fun with 3d fly by. Google is an awesome company and I I dont get all the hate. It is Microsoft that deserves our wrath.
post #51 of 79
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

Street view and transit information are two of the most important pieces of the whole mobile maps solution for a very large group of people.  The fact that Apple's maps solution doesn't have either (so far) is definitely a big problem.  

 

 

Nonsense.  The GPS shows exactly where you are on the map as well as your target location.  Nobody needs to see a street view to verify their location!

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post #52 of 79
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Nonsense.  The GPS shows exactly where you are on the map as well as your target location.  Nobody needs to see a street view to verify their location!

 

The case for Street View is a bit overblown, but some people do have a lot of trouble using maps, even when it shows them exactly where they are and which direction they are facing.

 

On the other hand, at least a few of the posters saying they couldn't live without it appear to simply use it simply for virtual tours, which may not be an essential feature on a phone.

 

 

Google's transit information is ok in terms of schedules, but sucks for any but the most trivial directions. There's nothing there that third party apps don't already provide much better information for. Frankly, I think more than a few of you just think stuff must be good because it's from Google, and don't make any critical evaluations of the software you use. Thus your dismay, and sometimes disbelief (and grasping at straws to explain it away), that Google's 3D maps suck, which really shoudn't be much of a surprise, since most of what Google does is at best mediocre.

post #53 of 79

These new flyover modes will really come into their own once I get a jet pack.

 

As a land dweller however, I use street view very often, and so any mapping app without it is virtually useless to me.

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Nonsense.  The GPS shows exactly where you are on the map as well as your target location.  Nobody needs to see a street view to verify their location!

 

Street View is incredibly useful when choosing a restaurant in an area you don't know well or at all. A quick scan of the neighbourhood in street view is infinitely more useful than a birds eye view, and of course, Street View covers most of the planet now. How long until jet pack mode covers as much?  (hint - it never will)

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I thought I was the only one annoyed by this. I slight mistouch on the Magic Mouse and you are suddenly at the other end of the zoom scale!

You should read the Google support pages. 1000's of people complain about it. It really is the worst UI ever conceived of for the click wheel.
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I wish Apple would do Streetview.  3D is a gimmick.

 

When I drive or walk or take transit, I want to know what the building will look like when it's in front of me.  Not from an angle and a thousand feet up.

 

It was stupid of Google to buy into the gimmick too.  Waste of resources.

post #57 of 79
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Nonsense.  The GPS shows exactly where you are on the map as well as your target location.  Nobody needs to see a street view to verify their location!

 

I'll bet when Apple offers Streetview, your opinion will change completely right?

 

And tell me....have you never wanted to see a place before you went there or had more than one building in your field of view?  One of the most useful features on the Android Maps Navigation app is that the app switches to Streetview and pops up the photo of the address just as you arrive, so you know exactly where you are heading.

 

Is it essential? No.  Is it useful?  You betcha.  A lot more useful to me, personally, than 3D maps.  Heck, on the desktop, I often find using Satellite view annoying and distracting.


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post #58 of 79
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

 

Of the main street through the town. That's it. Whereas you can just fly over anywhere and get the 3D maps instead of driving down every road.

 

I'm willing to bet that in a year from now Google will still have more cities covered with Streetview than Apple has with 3D maps.

 

I just can't see Apple throwing resources at covering secondary cities.

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Mapquest gives better directions than Google.

 

1) Nonsense.  Only fanboys believe that.

 

2) Only road directions.  No transit.  No bike directions.  Only in America do people drive everywhere.  The rest of the world isn't 300lbs using a Chevy Suburban to get somewhere.

 

3) Interface still sucks after all these years.

post #60 of 79
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Originally Posted by iansilv View Post

OK everyone listen!  I have a perfect solution to all this maps bickering!

 

Google just leaves maps alone and FOCUSES ON GOOGLE FIBER AND PUTTING IT EVERYWHERE!

 

Apple- release your maps, then focus on making the new iPhone!

 

Solved!

 

Then people would be on here bitching about how Google is trying to get their info.

 

Google Fiber is a simple effort at protecting net neutrality.  That's it.  It's a knife to Comcast and TWC throats.  If they start insisting on prioritizing traffic, Google can expand Fiber to multi-year nationwide roll-out and crush them.  That said, it's not easy for Google to commit to a national roll-out costing hundreds of billions of dollars.

post #61 of 79
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Transit information?
The only "transit information" I need is when I feel like putting my key in the ignition and pulling out onto the road.
For those poor unfortunates who dont have a car, transit information is available through a quick Bing of transit company's website for the timetables.

 

You can't be serious.

 

Your solution to a lack of easily accessible transit information is to drive everywhere?  No concerns about global warming?  No concerns about traffic congestion in your community?  No concerns about cost of gasoline?  No concerns about weight gain (driving and weight gain have proven and direct correlations)?

 

I'm starting to feel more grateful for being Canadian when I read crap like this.  Even Members of Parliament and ministers take the bus or walk, here in Ottawa.  No public servant with less than 17 years of service gets a parking pass in the city centre.  I'm sure Europe is even stricter.

 

And Bing still sucks outside the USA.  And looking up and navigating a transit systems website is no way near as intuitive or convenient as a native solution on a maps app built into the phone.  Are you so brainwashed that you actually support a horrendous user experience if it's not Apple?

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1) Nonsense.  Only fanboys believe that.

 

Mapquest fanboys? Funny.

post #63 of 79
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Then people would be on here bitching about how Google is trying to get their info.

 

Google Fiber is a simple effort at protecting net neutrality.  That's it.  It's a knife to Comcast and TWC throats.  If they start insisting on prioritizing traffic, Google can expand Fiber to multi-year nationwide roll-out and crush them.  That said, it's not easy for Google to commit to a national roll-out costing hundreds of billions of dollars.

 

You are a regular laugh riot today: "Google Fiber is a simple effort at protecting net neutrality." Good one!

 

Google Fiber is about protecting Google's interests and has absolutely nothing to do with net neutrality. Google's already shown the other side of their face when they conspired with Verizon to kill off the entire concept of net neutrality. To Google, net neutrality means nothing but, "Do whatever you want to everyone else, but don't **** with our traffic."

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as a global moderator, is that the official appleinsider position?

BTW, there are at least two global moderators... . and while they read all the comments, i don't think/believe they are the "voice" of the site.
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BTW, there are at least two global moderators... . and while they read all the comments, i don't think/believe they are the "voice" of the site.

 

Let's see… there's me, JeffDM, Marvin, melgross, and there are even more mods that don't post here anymore. And then there's lundy on the admin end.

 

You're right; we don't make up site policy, but the admins/mods implement changes to how the forum's run and what's considered acceptable.

post #66 of 79
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Transit information?
The only "transit information" I need is when I feel like putting my key in the ignition and pulling out onto the road.
For those poor unfortunates who dont have a car, transit information is available through a quick Bing of transit company's website for the timetables.

That is a ridiculous position to take. Millions of people around the planet use public transit regularly - and there are probably more who would find their life to be easier and less expensive if they did. Just a few examples:

- People who live in a large city. Most NYC residents, for example, probably never need a car unless they're traveling out of town - and renting one for the trip would be far less expensive than owning one just for your annual trek to Grandma's.

- Tourists and travelers. When I go to a major city on vacation, I most commonly leave the car at the hotel (or skip the car entirely and take a taxi from the airport to the hotel) and then use mass transit to get around. It's easier and far less expensive.

- Environmentally conscious people. Regardless of your views on global warming, there are plenty of good reasons to reduce your energy usage - cost, trade balance issues (which cost everyone billions of dollars), international security issues, health costs (a large percentage of asthma is caused by pollution), and so on.

- Traffic. I used to live in the Philadelphia area. It took me 45 minutes to an hour to get to work by car and 30 minutes by train. Plus, I could get work done or read on the train, so I gained an hour and a half to two hours of productive time every day.

Any time I've lived somewhere that trains were available, I used them regularly - because I saved a ton of money and got to where I was going a lot more quickly.

Given that, I'd like to see Apple include transit information with iOS (I don't care if it's in Maps or a separate app).

Street view? Meh. I have GPS on my phone so I don't need to see the buildings to know where I am.
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post #67 of 79

I'm sorry, but have you noticed that Apple has baked in Yelp services in their new maps app? Why do you need GOOGLE to provide a "street view" when the Yelp business pages have numerous photos of the business (inside and outside) that would give you the exact same information (and likely even more info) than what Street View offered? Your arguments make no sense at all...other than just to bitch about a lost feature. I live in a big city and I've owned an iPhone for years now. I've used Street View about 5 times total. I'd hardly call that a key feature that they've now removed. Apple has greatly improved on "street view" by implementing Yelp's services.

 

Maybe you Google lovers out there should stick with Android and the understanding that EVERY SINGLE THING that Google does as a business is half-assed. It's absolutely no surprise to me that Apple's BETA 3D maps are far superior to Google's FINAL product. Just another example of Google rushing out a product that offers a poor user experience.

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Maybe you Google lovers out there should stick with Android and the understanding that EVERY SINGLE THING that Google does as a business is half-assed. It's absolutely no surprise to me that Apple's BETA 3D maps are far superior to Google's FINAL product. Just another example of Google rushing out a product that offers a poor user experience.

 

Well, it does help to remember that Google Earth (and Google everything else) isn't really a product, per se, since its users aren't Google's customers. It would be more accurate to call Googleware "bait".

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post #70 of 79
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Originally Posted by iansilv View Post

OK everyone listen!  I have a perfect solution to all this maps bickering!

 

Google just leaves maps alone and FOCUSES ON GOOGLE FIBER AND PUTTING IT EVERYWHERE!

 

Apple- release your maps, then focus on making the new iPhone!

 

Solved!

 

That would be ideal, everyone focussing on their core competency and doing it very well, instead of what we have today, software companies like Google and Microsoft lusting after Apple's fat hardware margins and spending billions going nowhere real fast.
 
Google missed on a great opportunity by being devious and antagonistic - now there's no turning back, however...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
post #71 of 79
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These new flyover modes will really come into their own once I get a jet pack.

 

As a land dweller however, I use street view very often, and so any mapping app without it is virtually useless to me.

How did you make it this far?

 

Through the days of street directories, signs and asking directions?

 

It will be interesting to see how in future people will be unable to think for themselves and need pictures to show them where they are.

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Well, it does help to remember that Google Earth (and Google everything else) isn't really a product, per se, since its users aren't Google's customers. It would be more accurate to call Googleware "bait".

 

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post #73 of 79
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You can't be serious.

 

Your solution to a lack of easily accessible transit information is to drive everywhere?  No concerns about global warming?  No concerns about traffic congestion in your community?  No concerns about cost of gasoline?  No concerns about weight gain (driving and weight gain have proven and direct correlations)?

 

I'm starting to feel more grateful for being Canadian when I read crap like this.  Even Members of Parliament and ministers take the bus or walk, here in Ottawa.  No public servant with less than 17 years of service gets a parking pass in the city centre.  I'm sure Europe is even stricter.

 

And Bing still sucks outside the USA.  And looking up and navigating a transit systems website is no way near as intuitive or convenient as a native solution on a maps app built into the phone.  Are you so brainwashed that you actually support a horrendous user experience if it's not Apple?

 

Nope, I use LPG in my car the same as a bus does, my six cylinder Ford uses less petrol (gasoline) than a prius, actually about the same as a bicycle.

 

In the olden days we didn't even have GPS yet still managed somehow.


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post #74 of 79
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Transit information?
The only "transit information" I need is when I feel like putting my key in the ignition and pulling out onto the road.
For those poor unfortunates who dont have a car, transit information is available through a quick Bing of transit company's website for the timetables.

For those who travel frequently like myself, this has always been a very handy feature. When visiting major metropolitan area, public transportation is often even more convenient than driving a rental car.


Edited by e_veritas - 7/27/12 at 3:52pm
post #75 of 79
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Originally Posted by hill60 View Post

How did you make it this far?

 

Through the days of street directories, signs and asking directions?

 

It will be interesting to see how in future people will be unable to think for themselves and need pictures to show them where they are.

 

I just got lost.

 

Dark times they were.

post #76 of 79
So what they are saying is that on an iPad.... cough... or an iPhone ... cough cough... the iMappyThing is better.... big shocker.... since they also dumb down the competition's apps when it comes to browsers and searches pertaining to which device is best are pre-programmed in.
 
Look, you want honest... my Evo LTE has maps that look real (and a damn sight better than those iPad images)... and those iMappyThing images look too crisp.  People seem to forget that the human eye doesn't see things that way.  They look fake and generated because of it.  It's part of the reason people like Apple I guess.  The products screen looks better than the real world.
 
 
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Originally Posted by dgolightly519 View Post
So what they are saying is that on an iPad.... cough... or an iPhone ... cough cough... the iMappyThing is better.... big shocker...

 

Except your premise is completely wrong.

 

…since they also dumb down the competition's apps when it comes to browsers… 

 

There's a security reason for that.

 

and searches pertaining to which device is best are pre-programmed in.

 

lol, no. Otherwise proof?

 

Look, you want honest... my Evo LTE has maps that look real (and a damn sight better than those iPad images)... 
 
Screenshots, please?

 

…and those iMappyThing images look too crisp.

 

Reality certainly isn't in focus or anything.

 

People seem to forget that the human eye doesn't see things that way.

 

Accurately, you mean? I recon it does…

 

They look fake and generated because of it.  It's part of the reason people like Apple I guess.  The products screen looks better than the real world.

 

I'd love to know how they could possibly make anything look better than the real world. Are they going through and removing all the blemishes from each brick? Are they filling in potholes? Erasing illicit crack deals in back alleyways?

 

Some people don't know how time-lines work, and like to illogically call others idiots.

 

Feel free to keep rambling; we'll just ignore you. Otherwise could you explain what you're referencing here?

post #78 of 79

So there's no street view (which, yes, IS very useful), and judging by the pre-release imagery at least, the bread-and-butter 2D maps are nowhere near as detailed as the Google versions.

 

But hey, who actually needs to navigate anywhere when we can have a gimmicky 3D feature?

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I like that Apple's apparently scrubbed the cars from the aerial view, so that you can see the lanes and lane markings.  That makes the images more useful than the Google images with random cars everywhere.

 

It also makes the Apple images look a lot cleaner too (if a bit post-zombie-apocalyse...)

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