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You can be quite intense, and rub people the wrong way. I don't blame him, to some extent, though of course forum discipline may have to be enforced.

What I also don't like on this forum is the tendency of some users to call others trolls, even when they were on the site much before them, and I'm not talking about me only, but I've seen people being called a troll when they subscribed in 2004. That's just ridiculous and I've never seen that anywhere.
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What I also don't like on this forum is the tendency of some users to call others trolls, even when they were on the site much before them, and I'm not talking about me only, but I've seen people being called a troll when they subscribed in 2004. That's just ridiculous and I've never seen that anywhere.

Personally I usually consider name-calling to be indicative of the lack of an argument. Notice that those posts often lack any logical retort, simply an attack on the person rather than the point.

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I would prefer the current 3.5". Fits in my pockets, and believe a 4" will 'stretch' my pants as my phone always falls 'landscape-wise' It really looks 'long':
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 In that case, keep your present device and grab iOS 6. You'll be happy, your pants will be happy, and Apple won't notice.

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Off by $100 in one post and off by 1 in the other. Nice catch.


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Pretty sure I did give you some logical ways of use my magnifying dock theory and referenced other formed mobile OSs to stress my point. Other then attacking other people posting and giving their valid opinion, I don't see you adding anything positive to this discussion. You aren't going out on a limb and making comments as I did. You simply pounced on my comment and began assuming, attacking and belittling my thought process because in your mind, nothing can be better then what you hold in your hand. Alright I may have attacked you, so be it. I'm sure you've had worse written about you on the internet. But you can't argue that I am that far off on my assumptions of you. So much so that other people are agreeing with me, Pal. 

I attacked your post, but I didn't attack the poster. All you've done is attack the poster. If you thought you had valid idea about using "mouse overs" in iOS you should have retooled your comments to prove your point and communicate your idea in another way. Instead you just made juvenile ad hominem attacks. So far all you've shown is that you can't handle an opinion that is different from yours. You've shown that you know how to breakdown when someone disagrees with you. You've shown that you have no focus to make your point or the ability to express them well. Don't push that blame on others for not understanding what you meant to say.

You need to learn that the only presence you have on this forum are your words. You are your words. If you don't like people being direct and honest with you then you aren't going to fair well her or in life. I could assume that your 10yo or have suffered brain damaged by the depth of critical thinking in your comment and then give you a pass based on that but I have no way of knowing any of that and would never assume such things based on the available information.

This forum offers something that can't happen with proximal communication. There is no predetermined assumptions about the poster. What you write is who you are. You have no age, no gender, no colour, no creed, no appearance whatsoever. You are your words. Learn to write well and people will respect you for that even if they don't agree with what you are writing. Learn to debate by critically thinking about how others might deconstruct your opinion so you can adjust your communication as you conceive it.

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A little bigger, while not innovative, is good in my book. \

 

 

 

 

Keeping the screen tiny IS innovation.  While everybody else puts big screens on their devices, Apple is alone in innovating the tiny screen.  They buck the trend.  People will see the still-tiny screen and realize that is what they wanted all along.  The puck is moving TOWARDS tiny screens. Apple knows this.  It could have gone towards where the puck used to be, big screens, but their innovative nature makes them lead the pack with a screen so tiny that nobody else can match it.

 

 

 

 

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That's social generalizing and you know it.
Those posters could be 40 and you would never really know.

 

Of course. But any 40 year old posting like a 12 year old using the same worn out memes over and over has a few issues.

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Originally Posted by TheKid2020 View Post
I've been a member longer then you…

 

First, I'd like to correct that:

 

700

 

Second, we don't insult other users of the forum. Opinionated attacks against anyone not a user of the forum is fine (within reason). Additionally, your ad hominem argument that completely ignores the topic of the thread makes it unlikely that anyone else will take your future positions seriously. 

 

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I think, if this new iPhone is real and has the new dock connector, then the refreshed iPad has to be released alongside this new iPhone.

 

Not in the slightest. Apple will support both Dock Connectors for years to come, even if they stop making products that need the first one by the end of next spring.

 

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Out of curiosity, does AI's terms and conditions state anything about how old you need to be before you can join the forums?

 

I'd think there's a universal age limit for forums, modified up on an individual basis. At least, there should be if there isn't.

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Second, we don't insult other users of the forum. Opinionated attacks against anyone not a user of the forum is fine (within reason).

... and I sincerely wish forum leadership would be consistent on that.

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Oh, and it's incredibly hilarious how the 'OMG THIS IS SO UGLY IT CANT BE REAL APPLE WOULD NEVER MAKE THE BACK LIKE THAT' mirror the comments on the lost iPhone4 perfectly- how 'ugly' it was because it had 'grooves' on the metallic band, and how never in a million years would apple make something so hideous. As it turns out, it was real, and it only became the most successful and iconic smartphone in history, and remained unchanged for 2 generations, selling hundreds of millions. SOme of you are so indignant, pretentious, and self-important, you never learn from history and recall how wrong you all were but instead spew the same comments with absolutely no humility, and end up looking like fools each time and proven wrong in epic fashion. 

I learn that lesson with the original leaks of the iPhone 4. Those grainy images made me sure it was a fake but then when the quality images came along it could only be real. To me the fit and finish are just too good to be any fake I've ever seen.


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... and I sincerely wish forum leadership would be consistent on that.

Hey Gatorguy, your momma so fat her binaries support all architectures. (worst slam ever) 😷

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Hey Gatorguy, your momma so fat her binaries support all architectures. (worst slam ever) 😷

I've reported your post. . .

 

;) /s

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"No. That's wrong. Everyone only buys the iPhone because of how it looks. The iPhone 4S wasn't even a new phone. It was the exact same phone as the year before. If Apple thinks they can sell the same phone for three years, they have another thing coming. Apple is doomed. It's the same phone. No, it's the same phone. Same…"

 

"Similar design appearance"?, yes. "Same phone"? Hardly. Compare specs. NOT the same at all.

 

Aside from some extra screen resolution and real estate, isn't EVERYTHING that really matters contained inside the phone? CPU, graphics, memory, battery life etc.? You know, all the things we can't usually see? ANd then there's the software, where the majority of the real "evolution" happens...

 

If the design aesthetics of the outer "shell" is already working well, defines it as an iconic brand, is IMMENSELY popular (the world's single best-selling smartphone handset EVER, OF ALL TIME)… is instantly recognizable, differentiates it from the rest, then WHY would you ask or expect Apple to change that?
 

What would be "better", not just "different"? More curvaceous lines? A curved backplate maybe? We all saw that sexy 'teardrop' rendering claiming to be the iPhone 5, and liked it… maybe something like that?

 

Personally, I'm not that into "different" just for the sake of it. This device calls for a balance between form and function… Apple tends to stay with what works.

 

The same is true of their laptops. Aside from some reduction of dimensions and minor design tweaks, Apple has kept the basic form factor for the Mac Book Pro for how many years now? How many iterations? The unibody design… essentially the same, year after year. The changes that really matter? Overall performance, battery life, weight… the recently slimmed body is a 'further refinement' more than a 'complete redesign'. I expect more like that with the iPhone.

 

I doubt seriously it will signal "doomsday" for Apple and the iPhone...

 

Why shouldn't Apple sell a phone that keeps its good looks year after year, while ramping its performance and features on the inside?

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I have a hypothesis I want to share with you. It is still unknown whether Apple will announce iPad 4 this fall or in 2013. I think, if this new iPhone is real and has the new dock connector, then the refreshed iPad has to be released alongside this new iPhone. Otherwise Apple will have two connectors and it will damage the iPad sales, because people won't be buying a device with a deprecated docking port. What do you think?

they have connectors for that supposedly in case you didn't get the memo.

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That is rich. Maybe you really don't realize how abrasive your posts actually come across and believe what you wrote above. There are many ways to have respectful disagreements and you seem to be unaware how to edit your post in such a way as to respectfully disagree. You might not have directly attacked the poster this time but it is pretty clear you were calling his ideas not only moronic and were very condescending in your tone.

Yes, his suggestion was moronic. It I wasn't being respectful I wouldn't have commented as to why I thought it was so poorly thought out. My respect came from taking the time to explain my opinion instead of just stating it. You may think that by using cutesy words and starting replies with "with all due respect" makes your comments more balanced when you and he attack people but that's just hiding behind a passie-aggressive veil of insecurity. Do I need to beat around the bush to tell you how I feel about such tactics or can you accept that my communication is direct, focused, clear and to the point. I don't give two shits about who you are, what you do for a living, what snack foods you eat or any other derogatory remarks you people like to throw around when you've been beaten in a fair debate; I only care about you communicating as clearly and honestly as possible.

I make my comments how I make my comments. You want to investigate me, roll the dice and take your chances. I eat breakfast 300 yards from Verizon employees who are trained to sell me an Android phone, so don't think for one second that you can come down here, insult my intelligence, and make me nervous. You want the truth? You can't handle the truth!

I make plenty of suggestions on this forum. I am no hypocrite. I make my comments because I want feedback. Not the happy-time pat of the back feedback , but honest feedback from intelligent posters with a mind of their own. If my ideas are dumb I not only want that mentioned but I want it to be explained to me why you think they are dumb so I learn from you. Critical thinking is not learned in a bubble. It takes time and effort and you gain nothing from being coddled.

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Fully-assembled… case.

I hate 16:9…


I do appreciate that the iPad is a 4:3 (not widescreen format) butI can't see what it matters on a phone with an (allegedly) 4" screen. Serious question, no sarcasm.
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If you can dish it out you should be prepared to take it as well. Just saying....

If only I was willing to defend my comments instead of making woes me comments that derail the thread¡ If someone challenges your point, analyze it than defend your point if you think it's sound, but when you and TheKid2020 attack the poster you just weaken any valid point you have had.

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I do appreciate that the iPad is a 4:3 (not widescreen format) butI can't see what it matters on a phone with an (allegedly) 4" screen. Serious question, no sarcasm.

I can't see how it matters since all rumours suggest that it's not only the same display width in portrait mode, but also the same PPI. The only real complaint would have to be from the phone now being too tall to fit into a pocket, the display being too long tor the upper/lower thumb sweep, or the Home Button being pushed a little too far down since the casing doesn't appear to be expanding at the same ratio. But I haven't any of those things mentioned. It's all been static comments about 16:9 without any relevance to how it will affect the product.

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Originally Posted by PhilBoogie View Post

I would prefer the current 3.5". Fits in my pockets, and believe a 4" will 'stretch' my pants as my phone always falls 'landscape-wise' It really looks 'long':
Are you trying to bait my inner juvenile delinquent?
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Originally Posted by bigdaddyp View Post
…I can't see what it matters on a phone with an (allegedly) 4" screen. Serious question, no sarcasm.

 

*sigh* I don't either, I just don't like the idea of it in general. lol.gif

 

Encroachment, and all that. There's no ratio that is good for everything, and a different ratio for every possible use is impractical. But on the scale between the two, the best solution is closer to the latter than the former.

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that form factor (of the alleged new iPhone) looks great.  i never saw an issue with a large(r) screen especially having used Samsung Galaxy smartphones in the past.

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Not aesthetically pleasing to me-- just my opinion.  If this is the real deal, wondering if they'll call it "The new iPhone"

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As for Porsche - the only people I know who drive them are fat, middle-aged business men who think it makes them look younger and more attractive when actually it just makes them look like a prick.

 

Somebody clearly doesn't own a porsche. 

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your momma so fat her binaries support all architectures. (worst slam ever) 😷

On that single one-liner, I'm getting another one of Tony Thorne books! I simply love slang!
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That is rich. Maybe you really don't realize how abrasive your posts actually come across and believe what you wrote above. There are many ways to have respectful disagreements and you seem to be unaware how to edit your post in such a way as to respectfully disagree. You might not have directly attacked the poster this time but it is pretty clear you were calling his ideas not only moronic and were very condescending in your tone.

Yes, his suggestion was moronic. It I wasn't being respectful I wouldn't have commented as to why I thought it was so poorly thought out. My respect came from taking the time to explain my opinion instead of just stating it. You may think that by using curtsey words and stating replies with "with all due respect" makes your comments more balanced when you and he attack people but that's just hiding behind a passie-aggressive veil of insecurity. Do I need to beat around the bush to tell you how I feel about such tactics or can you accept that my communication is direct, focused, clear and to the point. I don't give two shits about who you are, what you do for a living, what snack foods you eat or any other derogatory remarks you people like to throw around when you've been beaten in a fair debate; I only care about you communicating as clearly and honestly as possible.

I make my comments how I make my comments. You want to investigate me, roll the dice and take your chances. I eat breakfast 300 yards from Verizon employees who are trained to sell me an Android phone, so don't think for one second that you can come down here, insult my intelligence, and make me nervous. You want the truth? You can't handle the truth!

I make plenty of suggestions on this forum. I am no hypocrite. I make my comments because I want feedback. Not the happy-time pat of the back feedback from intelligent posters with a mind of their own. If my ideas are dumb I not only want that mentioned but it to be explained to me why you think they are dumb. Critical thinking is not learned in a bubble. It takes time and effort and you gain nothing from being coddled.

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THAT post should be on the homepage of the forum. You know, the page you get to when clicking on the AppleInsider logo top left, or the link in their footer. Gees Huddler, your IQ is even lower that some single-digit-IQ people posting over here...
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I'm not sure if anyone else has said this already because I did not read all 300 plus posts, but the hole on the back of the iPhone where the camera and LED flash is could potentially be the new location for the noise canceling microphone. If you look at the top where the power/lock button is there is none. This could also serve dual purpose, for example, when the phone is being used for conversation purposes the microphone that is located by the headphone and speakers is used as the line in and the microphone by the camera is used for noise canceling. Then vise-versa, when the phone is filming the microphone by the camera is used to capture audio and the microphone by the headphone jack is used for noise canceling.

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I would guess it's canceled iPhone5 that was replaced by 4s or fake. I don't believe apple will just release iPhone4, stretched to four inches and call it 5. Has to be more then four to keep up with androids. Glass will be as on iPad3 thus will benefit on bigger screens. I hope on different design of home button. Classic is malfunctioning on one of our iTouches and iPad2. /fail. It will be nice if iOS will "borrow" design of autocorrect on android to cut off the oxygen frm sites like damnyouautocorrect. And last but not least to be available on all biggest US providers, including T-Mobile.
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Originally Posted by Andrey View Post
I don't believe apple will just release iPhone4, stretched to four inches and call it 5.

 

Being as persnickety as possible, I agree with this sentence right here.


Has to be more then four to keep up with androids.

 

No, that has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Apple "keeps up" with no one.

 

I hope on different design of home button. Classic is malfunctioning on one of our iTouches and iPad2. /fail.

 

/actually_take_care_of_your_possessions


It will be nice if iOS will "borrow" design of autocorrect on android to cut off the oxygen frm sites like damnyouautocorrect.

 

So you want auto-correct to be made worse by an order of magnitude to… get rid of a pointless (and fake, if you'd take a second and look around it) site like that?


 And last but not least to be available on all biggest US providers, including T-Mobile.

 

That's on T-Mobile to do. The iPhone is already on all other major carriers and dozens of local ones. They have no one to blame but themselves.

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I looked at the leaked photos again today. Not feeling it. But of course, holding one in my hand when it comes out... We'll see, I may go nuts over it. I've bought iPhones from 3 different continents + 1 city state island. Might as well keep it up.

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