Photos of alleged fully-assembled next-gen iPhone surface - Page 8

Zero innovation? Seriously?

 

Your basing this on a rumour photo? What did you expect? What would make it innovative in your eyes? Is a teardrop shape innovative? No. You don't even know the phone's feature set, yet you claim "zero innovation". Personally, I kind of like the two-tone gun metal look. Not terribly exciting, but then again, I never do cartwheels over the cosmetics anyway. A little bigger, while not innovative, is good in my book. A little thinner is an improvement. Lighter would be better. 4G would be great. A full-featured digital wallet with PassBook, would be welcomed (fingers crossed). Beyond that, let's wait and see what the phone can actually do, before everyone starts complaining. At the end of the day, you'll never please everyone anyway, and ANYONE who buys a phone solely on cosmetics is an complete moron.

 

It's the bundled software and the way the phone plays so nicely with my other devices and big-screen TV that sets the iPhone apart from the competition anyway.

 

You never know, maybe, Apple has figured out how to triple the battery life... Or maybe the new phone will be totally lame. Saying that there is zero innovation based on these RUMOUR photos is ridiculous statement. 

There're cooling fins to stop the phone overheating like an iPad 3

What I also don't like on this forum is the tendency of some users to call others trolls, even when they were on the site much before them, and I'm not talking about me only, but I've seen people being called a troll when they subscribed in 2004. That's just ridiculous and I've never seen that anywhere.

Personally I usually consider name-calling to be indicative of the lack of an argument. Notice that those posts often lack any logical retort, simply an attack on the person rather than the point.

 In that case, keep your present device and grab iOS 6. You'll be happy, your pants will be happy, and Apple won't notice.

Off by $100 in one post and off by 1 in the other. Nice catch.



I attacked your post, but I didn't attack the poster. All you've done is attack the poster. If you thought you had valid idea about using "mouse overs" in iOS you should have retooled your comments to prove your point and communicate your idea in another way. Instead you just made juvenile ad hominem attacks. So far all you've shown is that you can't handle an opinion that is different from yours. You've shown that you know how to breakdown when someone disagrees with you. You've shown that you have no focus to make your point or the ability to express them well. Don't push that blame on others for not understanding what you meant to say.

You need to learn that the only presence you have on this forum are your words. You are your words. If you don't like people being direct and honest with you then you aren't going to fair well her or in life. I could assume that your 10yo or have suffered brain damaged by the depth of critical thinking in your comment and then give you a pass based on that but I have no way of knowing any of that and would never assume such things based on the available information.

This forum offers something that can't happen with proximal communication. There is no predetermined assumptions about the poster. What you write is who you are. You have no age, no gender, no colour, no creed, no appearance whatsoever. You are your words. Learn to write well and people will respect you for that even if they don't agree with what you are writing. Learn to debate by critically thinking about how others might deconstruct your opinion so you can adjust your communication as you conceive it.

 

 

Keeping the screen tiny IS innovation.  While everybody else puts big screens on their devices, Apple is alone in innovating the tiny screen.  They buck the trend.  People will see the still-tiny screen and realize that is what they wanted all along.  The puck is moving TOWARDS tiny screens. Apple knows this.  It could have gone towards where the puck used to be, big screens, but their innovative nature makes them lead the pack with a screen so tiny that nobody else can match it.

 

 

 

 

/s

 

Of course. But any 40 year old posting like a 12 year old using the same worn out memes over and over has a few issues.

 

First, I'd like to correct that:

 

 

Second, we don't insult other users of the forum. Opinionated attacks against anyone not a user of the forum is fine (within reason). Additionally, your ad hominem argument that completely ignores the topic of the thread makes it unlikely that anyone else will take your future positions seriously. 

 

 

Not in the slightest. Apple will support both Dock Connectors for years to come, even if they stop making products that need the first one by the end of next spring.

 

 

I'd think there's a universal age limit for forums, modified up on an individual basis. At least, there should be if there isn't.

... and I sincerely wish forum leadership would be consistent on that.

I learn that lesson with the original leaks of the iPhone 4. Those grainy images made me sure it was a fake but then when the quality images came along it could only be real. To me the fit and finish are just too good to be any fake I've ever seen.



Hey Gatorguy, your momma so fat her binaries support all architectures. (worst slam ever) 😷

I've reported your post. . .

 

;) /s

"Similar design appearance"?, yes. "Same phone"? Hardly. Compare specs. NOT the same at all.

 

Aside from some extra screen resolution and real estate, isn't EVERYTHING that really matters contained inside the phone? CPU, graphics, memory, battery life etc.? You know, all the things we can't usually see? ANd then there's the software, where the majority of the real "evolution" happens...

 

If the design aesthetics of the outer "shell" is already working well, defines it as an iconic brand, is IMMENSELY popular (the world's single best-selling smartphone handset EVER, OF ALL TIME)… is instantly recognizable, differentiates it from the rest, then WHY would you ask or expect Apple to change that?
 

What would be "better", not just "different"? More curvaceous lines? A curved backplate maybe? We all saw that sexy 'teardrop' rendering claiming to be the iPhone 5, and liked it… maybe something like that?

 

Personally, I'm not that into "different" just for the sake of it. This device calls for a balance between form and function… Apple tends to stay with what works.

 

The same is true of their laptops. Aside from some reduction of dimensions and minor design tweaks, Apple has kept the basic form factor for the Mac Book Pro for how many years now? How many iterations? The unibody design… essentially the same, year after year. The changes that really matter? Overall performance, battery life, weight… the recently slimmed body is a 'further refinement' more than a 'complete redesign'. I expect more like that with the iPhone.

 

I doubt seriously it will signal "doomsday" for Apple and the iPhone...

 

Why shouldn't Apple sell a phone that keeps its good looks year after year, while ramping its performance and features on the inside?

they have connectors for that supposedly in case you didn't get the memo.

 

That is rich. Maybe you really don't realize how abrasive your posts actually come across and believe what you wrote above. There are many ways to have respectful disagreements and you seem to be unaware how to edit your post in such a way as to respectfully disagree. You might not have directly attacked the poster this time but it is pretty clear you were calling his ideas moronic and were very condescending in your tone. You don't need to call someone an idiot when a facial expression and a roll of the eyes convey the same message and that is what you did with your critique.  You also frequently attack posters personally and I know this from personal experience and reading this site for many years where I have seen you get into numerous and unwarranted pissing matches over very trivial issues. I actually liked his idea and agree that iOS needs a bigger refresh than what I have seen so far with planned iOS 6 features. I am not a GUI expert, but I think there is a lot more Apple could do to improve the user experience. The poster was also correct that you rarely seem to go off on a limb and offer your own ideas and prefer to belittle other people's ideas. So have at it with my suggestion. 

 

I would like something akin to Spaces. To explain, I would like a gesture or possibly an icon for quick access that I could activate that would bring up miniature snapshots of at least 4 pages of screens with a swipe to view the remaining pages 4 at a time. If you have a lot of screens, it can take a lot of swipes to find an app. Sure, if you know the name of the app you can use search, but what happens when you can't remember the name? You have to swipe through screen after screen looking.   I would also like the ability to name each screen, just like you can with folders. For some people it might just be numerical, for others you might have a screen filled with games, another with business apps, one with utilities, etc...This would allow better organization and easier access. 

 

A few more: Have option to turn on automatic app updates. It is tedious to enter the Apple PW and do that several times a week. Apple really started the widget trend but called it dashboard. Bring dashboard to iOS. Apple can save face by calling it dashboard instead of widgets. If you have ever used these on Android or a jailbroken iPhone which has something similar you realize how useful and time saving they can be. The current weather and stock widgets just aren't cutting it, give us far more widgets and the ability to customize what we want to view.  

 

Back on topic, I am more interested in the internal tech specs of the next iPhone. I wonder how likely we are to see a quad core. I would also love to see an article comparing how efficient iOS is at using 2 or 4 cores vs. Android. Most of the articles on the net are old and compare previous hardware and software. An ICS vs. iOS 6 comparison would be an interesting read. 

Edited by gwmac - 7/30/12 at 10:54am

Yes, his suggestion was moronic. It I wasn't being respectful I wouldn't have commented as to why I thought it was so poorly thought out. My respect came from taking the time to explain my opinion instead of just stating it. You may think that by using cutesy words and starting replies with "with all due respect" makes your comments more balanced when you and he attack people but that's just hiding behind a passie-aggressive veil of insecurity. Do I need to beat around the bush to tell you how I feel about such tactics or can you accept that my communication is direct, focused, clear and to the point. I don't give two shits about who you are, what you do for a living, what snack foods you eat or any other derogatory remarks you people like to throw around when you've been beaten in a fair debate; I only care about you communicating as clearly and honestly as possible.


I make plenty of suggestions on this forum. I am no hypocrite. I make my comments because I want feedback. Not the happy-time pat of the back feedback , but honest feedback from intelligent posters with a mind of their own. If my ideas are dumb I not only want that mentioned but I want it to be explained to me why you think they are dumb so I learn from you. Critical thinking is not learned in a bubble. It takes time and effort and you gain nothing from being coddled.


Edited by SolipsismX - 8/1/12 at 8:49am

 

That is the problem, even when soundly thrashed in a debate and you were clearly proven wrong in past discussions and pretty much everyone on the board agreed, you still remain stubborn and recalcitrant. In your mind at least I don't think you feel as if you  have ever lost a debate on AI. The joy of being the judge, jury, and executioner I suppose. With over 6,000 posts in less than a year with this handle, and God only knows how many tens of thousands from past names, you obviously take this forum far more seriously than your average member and also have far more time. So by all means carry on and put us in our place and enlighten us with your pearls of wisdom. Just don't act surprised when people retaliate or take offense. I like you better when you own your arrogance instead of playing the martyr that graciously fails to use the report button even though you could because you felt personally attacked. If you can dish it out you should be prepared to take it as well. Just saying....

I do appreciate that the iPad is a 4:3 (not widescreen format) butI can't see what it matters on a phone with an (allegedly) 4" screen. Serious question, no sarcasm.

If only I was willing to defend my comments instead of making woes me comments that derail the thread¡ If someone challenges your point, analyze it than defend your point if you think it's sound, but when you and TheKid2020 attack the poster you just weaken any valid point you have had.


I can't see how it matters since all rumours suggest that it's not only the same display width in portrait mode, but also the same PPI. The only real complaint would have to be from the phone now being too tall to fit into a pocket, the display being too long tor the upper/lower thumb sweep, or the Home Button being pushed a little too far down since the casing doesn't appear to be expanding at the same ratio. But I haven't any of those things mentioned. It's all been static comments about 16:9 without any relevance to how it will affect the product.

Are you trying to bait my inner juvenile delinquent?

 

*sigh* I don't either, I just don't like the idea of it in general. 

 

Encroachment, and all that. There's no ratio that is good for everything, and a different ratio for every possible use is impractical. But on the scale between the two, the best solution is closer to the latter than the former.

that form factor (of the alleged new iPhone) looks great.  i never saw an issue with a large(r) screen especially having used Samsung Galaxy smartphones in the past.

Not aesthetically pleasing to me-- just my opinion.  If this is the real deal, wondering if they'll call it "The new iPhone"

 

Somebody clearly doesn't own a porsche. 

On that single one-liner, I'm getting another one of Tony Thorne books! I simply love slang!

THAT post should be on the homepage of the forum. You know, the page you get to when clicking on the AppleInsider logo top left, or the link in their footer. Gees Huddler, your IQ is even lower that some single-digit-IQ people posting over here...

I'm not sure if anyone else has said this already because I did not read all 300 plus posts, but the hole on the back of the iPhone where the camera and LED flash is could potentially be the new location for the noise canceling microphone. If you look at the top where the power/lock button is there is none. This could also serve dual purpose, for example, when the phone is being used for conversation purposes the microphone that is located by the headphone and speakers is used as the line in and the microphone by the camera is used for noise canceling. Then vise-versa, when the phone is filming the microphone by the camera is used to capture audio and the microphone by the headphone jack is used for noise canceling.

I would guess it's canceled iPhone5 that was replaced by 4s or fake. I don't believe apple will just release iPhone4, stretched to four inches and call it 5. Has to be more then four to keep up with androids. Glass will be as on iPad3 thus will benefit on bigger screens. I hope on different design of home button. Classic is malfunctioning on one of our iTouches and iPad2. /fail. It will be nice if iOS will "borrow" design of autocorrect on android to cut off the oxygen frm sites like damnyouautocorrect. And last but not least to be available on all biggest US providers, including T-Mobile.

 

Being as persnickety as possible, I agree with this sentence right here.

 

No, that has absolutely nothing to do with anything. Apple "keeps up" with no one.

 

 

/actually_take_care_of_your_possessions

 

So you want auto-correct to be made worse by an order of magnitude to… get rid of a pointless (and fake, if you'd take a second and look around it) site like that?

 

That's on T-Mobile to do. The iPhone is already on all other major carriers and dozens of local ones. They have no one to blame but themselves.

I looked at the leaked photos again today. Not feeling it. But of course, holding one in my hand when it comes out... We'll see, I may go nuts over it. I've bought iPhones from 3 different continents + 1 city state island. Might as well keep it up.

iPhone 3G (locked) - USA shipped to UK
iPhone 3G (unlocked) - Singapore
iPhone 3GS (unlocked) - Malaysia
iPhone 4 (unlocked) - Malaysia
iPhone 4S (locked) - Australia