Originally Posted by ktappe
These look like the real deal. Hopefully this level of completion implies we'll see the new model sooner rather than later. Apple needs to hit a home run with the iPhone 5; Samsung has been (surprisingly, at least to me) outselling Apple 2:1 lately.
Three comments on that:
1. Always worth reminding that most of these reports compare other company's SHIPPING quantities to Apple's selling numbers. All iPhones shipped are sold. Ask HP if that's true of all non iOS devices...
And isn't that Android as a whole (with all the junk at the bottom of the lines running like v2.3 included) rather than Samsung alone (and especially not considering top phone to top phone and tab to tab). So many dueling metrics and hard to keep straight.
2. Also, I believe that's Android penetration in Europe, not here. Where the whole subsidy structure is different. Although, long term, dealing with world-wide sticker shock IS a bit of challenge for Apple to crack.
3. No maker of Android devices (nor I believe all of them combined) is "out-profiting" Apple in the iDevice/mobile markets.
Originally Posted by DaHarder
This 'alleged' new iPhone simply looks like a slightly elongated version of the now 2-year-old iPhone 4/4S with a few tweaks here and there - Which is hardly anyhting remotely ground-breaking/innovative and it's beginning to appear that there's a certain degree of complacency in the Apple design deparment lately.
Time for Apple to start to 'Think Different' again.
Anyway... It'll likely sell well enough (merely because it's an Apple product), but it's becoming pretty obvious that the once creative arm of Apple is (seemingly) coming up very short on interesting ideas as of late (to include iOS 6), while competitors are truly advancing the state of mobile device technology/design.
Come on Cook, Ivy and Company... Surely there are still a few great (design) ideas left in you.
Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Are you people freaking kidding me? Do you really think that after over a year of saying this that it means anything at all?
Yes and no....... ...the iP4 was "tick" and the 4s the "tock" on the 2 year contract cycle. At 1st glance - assuming it's remotely real - this "feels" more like "toooock" than a new tick.
But how much can the form change if "form follows function" without changing for its own sake? Or just to be novel (plenty of passing novelty phun fones on that other OS). Remember when Detroit radically changed body styles EVERY YEAR in the '50's? And after a great run of Chevies, e.g., that played out in bizarre finned boats that wore out fast, rusted almost as fast - and those from other countries who focused on building good lasting stuff with tight tolerances began to take 'em out...
...I think people can discern value - both in the device and the whole growing system.
Also, the screen can't get wider without violating Apple's ergonomic guidelines for average hands, but it can get a bit longer, tho' "that's a stretch" ;-D Nor - for marketing reasons partly - can it stay at 3.5" forever without starting to "look small." Though at some point I do expect Apple to have at least two CURRENT SKU's, not just "this year's" selling alongside "last year's" (and the year before's).
And what's in the innards? LTE's gonna be nice. New CPU too. NFC? Not big on my 2013 needs list, but.... ...And maybe T-Mob and that big China phone company will be brought into the fold (increasing our choices and the value proposition for app developers, which WILL benefit all iPhone users).
iOS6 moves its own ball. (Admittedly Android OS is making some leaps and bounds - but getting current versions updated and deployed to the Android device world is still not). Plus expect other value-add refinements. More storage is always nice. Better batteries too.
And it'll be enough extra real estate to keep the top spot in the US AND keep the lion's share of the profits to be had.
Originally Posted by Socrates
No idea what the haters are on about. This is exactly what I was hoping they would ship, and the new screen looks like the perfect compromise between the comfortable existing size and the ludicrous giant panels of their competitors.
16:9 will be great for movies and games, and in portrait offers more usable screen real estate for scrolling content like web pages and lists (which make up the lion's share of most non-game applications).
I hope it has some non-obvious tech like an NFC chip in there as well, but either way I'm buying this, and so will most of you guys once you actually see Tim Cook bring it out on stage and explain why it's great.
I agree. Media will actually grow more in display than the screen size because of fewer black bars on widescreen content and I can always use more, err, that is less, portrait scrolling. Plus this solution barely changes the device holding ergonomics and pocketability at all.
Also from what I've read adding pixels in this new space will pose a smaller challenge to developers and API guidelines than any other up-sizing. Meanwhile the 4:3 of the 9.7" iPad continues to make more sense for general holding/toting/using than a wide screen tablet.
Leaving to be determined only how Apple's gonna approach the space between 4" and 9.7" Remember Cook's already announced he plans to leave no room for competitors under a "price umbrella." So a 7.85 mini (with its own solutions and niches to deal with the "filed down fingers" problem, e.g., in the K-9 ed market for one) is likely given all the clues, but even though there's hardly a peep and the specs have gone stale, I also wonder if a 4.5-5" Touch couldn't be the bigger than 4" device that's still absent, even in the rumor mills, and aimed at hand-held gaming, photography, etc. and looking as cool as any "phablet." As in maybe next spring??
Still all this evolution still will leave some wanting the next "revolution" - and I'm in that camp too. What IS the next "insanely great" idea? And will it come from Apple? One would assume. But if so, when and what??
Finally, the Apple mythos requires a new truly DIFFERENT idea in the post-Jobs era within a year or two to keep its "dream share," and show the mojo's still baked in the company genes and not gone off into the beyond with the visionary.
--still waiting for my iJetpack (or whatever) after all these years......
Edited by bigpics - 7/29/12 at 2:25pm