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Rumor: Next-gen iPhone, 'iPad mini,' new iPod nano to debut on Sept. 12

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An early Monday report claims inside knowledge of an as yet unannounced Apple event that will supposedly usher in the next-generation iPhone, a much-rumored smaller iPad model some have taken to calling the 'iPad mini' and a new iPod nano.

Coming on the heels of pictures showing a supposedly fully-assembled next-generation iPhone, website iMore cites sources "who have proven accurate in the past" who claim the three new iDevices will be announced at a special Apple event on Sept. 12.

The sources go on to say the sixth-generation iPhone will go on sale on Sept. 19, one week after its purported debut, but a rollout date for the smaller iPad and iPod nano are not yet known. iMore recently reported the iPad mini would be unveiled sometime in October at a sub-$200 price point.

Monday's launch date rumor is in line with at least one analyst's projection of an early September launch for the next-gen iPhone and iPad mini, but the tablet was estimated to be released later in the month following an August manufacturing ramp-up. Apple partner Foxconn has reportedly been hiring extra staff to accomodate the influx of iDevice orders and the Chinese company's Zhengzhou plant is said to have already rolled out a few sixth-gen iPhone test batches ahead of mass production. It is unclear where the iPad mini will be built, however, as conflicting reports claim final assembly will take place at either Foxconn's Chengdu or Jundiai, Brazil factories.

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Purported assembled next-generation iPhone. | Source: iLab Factory


While the sources didn't offer any additional information regarding hardware specifics, they reiterated the iPad mini will "be exactly like the 9.7-inch iPad, only scaled down to 7.x-inches." The description is identical to earlier "leaked" engineering samples of the device that showed the inclusion of the same 19-pin dock connector widely expected to be introduced with the next-gen iPhone.

Not much is known about a new iPod nano, but some sources have claimed the device will eschew its current square-shaped design for something closer to a shrunken iPhone and add a home button.
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What? A new iPhone? Darn it, just wanted to get this fonky case, 4 my 4



Still can't swallow a smaller iPad, no matter how small. Although they do seem quite thick, possibly due to the smaller size while retaining 10 hour battery life?

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The sooner the better... 2+ years of the same exterior design is more than enough for any gadget (as slowing sales indicate).

This one had better show some reall effort/progress - We'll See.
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but some sources have claimed

Random guys, with no credibility whatsoever, have cooked up a random story. Quick, fast, run! Let's post this to Ai!

 

Huh. I'm going to start filtering out anything from Ai with the words "some source", "Digitimes" and possibly "form factor". Oh, and the last article about a fully assembled iPhone (read "an iPhone box without any hardware in...") really was uzless.

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The sooner the better... 2+ years of the same exterior design is more than enough for any gadget (as slowing sales indicate).
This one had better show some reall effort/progress - We'll See.

 

So, you're not a troll. Your signature is not a troll signature. That comment is honestly felt from the heart. The slowing sales of iPhone 4S are not due to the Next iPhone's anticipation.

 

/sarcasm

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So, you're not a troll. Your signature is not a troll signature. That comment is honestly felt from the heart. The slowing sales of iPhone 4S are not due to the Next iPhone's anticipation.

/sarcasm

Just because someone legitimate disagrees with the near cult-like adoration some of you appear to have for certain tech companies does not make them a ''troll', so stop being ridiculous and deal with it.

As a longtime (25+ year) owner/supporter of Apple products, I (along with many others) would like to so more forward progress in their designs/effort s- So, Also Deal With That.

Anyway... Why would they introduce a 'new iPod Nano' and not a new iPod Touch?
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So, you're not a troll. Your signature is not a troll signature. That comment is honestly felt from the heart. The slowing sales of iPhone 4S are not due to the Next iPhone's anticipation.

/sarcasm

Apple stated in ther most recent earnings call that they believe such speculation has an effect on sales.
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The sooner the better... 2+ years of the same exterior design is more than enough for any gadget (as slowing sales indicate).
This one had better show some reall effort/progress - We'll See.

Slowing sales which are still higher than the the top selling Galaxy S III and are not due to the design but historically have happened before a new product launch, announced by Apple as happening in "fall". (Spring down here), it doesn't take a genius to figure out that it will coincide with iOS 6.0.

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Random guys, with no credibility whatsoever, have cooked up a random story. Quick, fast, run! Let's post this to Ai!

 

Huh. I'm going to start filtering out anything from Ai with the words "some source", "Digitimes" and possibly "form factor". Oh, and the last article about a fully assembled iPhone (read "an iPhone box without any hardware in...") really was uzless.


But you'll have nothing left to read.

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My belief is that there will not be two products as in an iPod Touch and an iPad Mini. Instead, the Nano will be a little less nano and the Touch will become a larger device to slot in below the iPad. Keeping existing price points from the Nano and Touch lines but making those devices each larger, Apple will continue to dominate this space. No need to change the names of the devices either. Why muddy the waters by having a second IPad form factor that is really a different device. Just call it the Touch and then it doesn't look like current management has turned against what Jobs had decided to do in the tablet space.

If it were me, I"d resist the urge to put a 7-inch screen on the device, going instead for an even more portable form factor. The other day I glanced at a device with a screen just shy of five inches and it looked like a rather handy size. Still pocketable yet with much more screen real estate than the current Touch.

I see the Touch as a companion to the iPad, not as an alternative to it. Apple already dominates the tablet space so why compete with that.
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Yea more meaningless rumors. How about reporting on something worthwhile like Jonathan Ive's comments from London today:

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2012-07/30/jonathan-ive-revenue-good-design

Jonathan Ive: Apple's goal isn't to make money

Apple's goal is not to make money, but to make good products, said Jonathan Ive, senior vice president of industrial design at Apple, speaking at the British Embassy's Creative Summit.

"We are really pleased with our revenues but our goal isn't to make money. It sounds a little flippant, but it's the truth. Our goal and what makes us excited is to make great products. If we are successful people will like them and if we are operationally competent, we will make money," he said.

He explained how, in the 90s, Apple was very close to bankruptcy and that "you learn a lot about vital corporations through non-vital corporations". When Steve Jobs returned to the company in 1997, his focus was not on making money -- "His observation was that the products weren't good enough. His resolve was to make better products." This was a different approach from other attempts to turn the company around, which had focused first and foremost on cost savings and revenue generation.

"I refute that design is important. Design is a prerequisite. Good design -- innovation -- is really hard, said Ive, explaining how it is possible to be both a craftsperson and a mass manufacturer with discipline and focus. "We say no to a lot of things that we want to do and are intrigued by so that we only work on a manageable amount of products and can invest an incredible amount of care on each of them."

He talked about artist Augustus Pugin, who famously rallied against mass production during the industrial revolution. "Pugin felt there was a godlessness in making things in volume. He was completely wrong. You can make one chair carelessly, thoughtlessly, that is valueless. Or you can make a phone [that will eventually go on to be mass produced] and invest so many years of care and have so many people so driven to make the very best phone way beyond any sort of functional imperative that there is incredible value."

He said: "Really great design is hard. Good is the enemy of great. Competent design is not too much of a stretch. But if you are trying to do something new, you have challenges on so many axes."

Ive added that he "can't describe" how excited he still feels to be part of the creative process. "To me I still think it's remarkable that at a point in time on a Tuesday afternoon there isn't an idea and then suddenly later on there is an idea. Invariably they start as a tentative, barely-formed thought that becomes a conversation between a couple of people."

Apple then builds a prototype that embodies the idea and that's when the idea goes through "the most incredible transition". "You go from something tentative and exclusive to something tangible and -- by nature of it being a thing -- a table of people can sit around it and start to understand it; it becomes inclusive and it galvanises and points to a direction for effort."

Ive closed by reiterating the Apple mantra that "we don't do market research". "It will guarantee mediocrity and will only work out whether you are going to offend anyone." He said it is a designer's responsibility to understand potential opportunities and be familiar and fluent with technologies that could enable the creation of products that fit with those opportunities.
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My belief is that there will not be two products as in an iPod Touch and an iPad Mini. Instead, the Nano will be a little less nano and the Touch will become a larger device to slot in below the iPad. Keeping existing price points from the Nano and Touch lines but making those devices each larger, Apple will continue to dominate this space. No need to change the names of the devices either. Why muddy the waters by having a second IPad form factor that is really a different device. Just call it the Touch and then it doesn't look like current management has turned against what Jobs had decided to do in the tablet space.
If it were me, I"d resist the urge to put a 7-inch screen on the device, going instead for an even more portable form factor. The other day I glanced at a device with a screen just shy of five inches and it looked like a rather handy size. Still pocketable yet with much more screen real estate than the current Touch.
I see the Touch as a companion to the iPad, not as an alternative to it. Apple already dominates the tablet space so why compete with that.

If they release a 7" iPad mini the press will report it as Apple being forced to respond to Amazon and Google. I'd love for them to do something that would deal with the whole price umbrella issue without looking like a reaction to the Nexus 7. A bigger iPod touch could be such a product. The Touch will have to be bigger (or be phased out) if the iPhone gets bigger.
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So, you're not a troll. Your signature is not a troll signature. That comment is honestly felt from the heart. The slowing sales of iPhone 4S are not due to the Next iPhone's anticipation.

 

/sarcasm

 

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There are a couple of good things about this launch. a) The price will be competitive b) GPS will be standard in that it suits the size. And those cheap IZGO screens are now here so they might well impress too.
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Apple seriously needs to take the lead in the wide open 3D printer field. These guys are now printing electronics. http://www.optomec.com/
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Just because someone legitimate disagrees with the near cult-like adoration some of you appear to have for certain tech companies does not make them a ''troll', so stop being ridiculous and deal with it.
As a longtime (25+ year) owner/supporter of Apple products, I (along with many others) would like to so more forward progress in their designs/effort s- So, Also Deal With That.
Anyway... Why would they introduce a 'new iPod Nano' and not a new iPod Touch?

I also think Apple design improvement are very ordinary with the iphone. Leaks point an "OK" upgrade, but certainly nothing with a "WoW" factor. But until the event happens, we dont know what they are going to release.

 

I wish they keep the square ipod nano, its being used like a watch by a lot of people. I would rather have a bigger ipod touch, something with a screen between 4.5" to 5".    

 

I like the MBP improvements and the ipad new rumor 7" ipad with the same resolution of the ipad1&2.

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If they release a 7" iPad mini the press will report it as Apple being forced to respond to Amazon and Google. I'd love for them to do something that would deal with the whole price umbrella issue without looking like a reaction to the Nexus 7. A bigger iPod touch could be such a product. The Touch will have to be bigger (or be phased out) if the iPhone gets bigger.

Instead of a 7" ipad mini, they could release a 5" ipod touch.  But youre not going to win with the press, because it will be compare to the samsung Notes.

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Whatever about these sources there will be a new device at low margins in September.

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A new iPhone and a new iPad announced together just before the start of the fourth quarter?

Why settle for a $40 billion quarter when you can have a $50 billion quarter?

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Instead of a 7" ipad mini, they could release a 5" ipod touch.  But youre not going to win with the press, because it will be compare to the samsung Notes.

 

 

How does a $649 phone (Cdn. pricing) compare to a $200 small-form tablet (i.e. a pocket computer). 

 

If you can find a better $200 tablet, if that's what Apple unleashes, buy it. Yet that's not likely to happen. If Apple can make a $199 (Cdn.) Touch with a 3.5-inch screen, it can make a $199 update on that product sporting a larger screen. Specifications upgrades with no change in price has been something Apple has been doing for years. If Apple does this, rather than bring out a tweener device, i.e. a $300 seven-inch tablet, the company will own the tablet market. No manufacturer can deliver a full-feature tablet for less than $200 that is anywhere close to being as polished as Apple's products are. Even if let's say a $150 tablet came along, few consumers would consider it a good deal to save $50 but wind up with an inferior tablet. 

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The sooner the better... 2+ years of the same exterior design is more than enough for any gadget (as slowing sales indicate).
This one had better show some reall effort/progress - We'll See.

 

Funny stuff, from a tiresome poster.

 

Whatever the design, I'm sure that, following his standard practice, he'll be buying 3 each for his entire family.

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…deal with the whole price umbrella issue without looking like a reaction…

 

They're already doing that. It's called "iPad 2 for $399." And next spring it will be "iPad 2 for $299". The iPad 2 was a great product. People pretend to love it more than the 3rd iPad, for heaven's sake! When the 4th one comes out, the iPad 2 will still see huge sales. And after that they'll be pushing models, not prices, down the line.

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If they come out with a 7.85" iPad, I'm in.


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So much for doubling down on security.
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They're already doing that. It's called "iPad 2 for $399." And next spring it will be "iPad 2 for $299". The iPad 2 was a great product. People pretend to love it more than the 3rd iPad, for heaven's sake! When the 4th one comes out, the iPad 2 will still see huge sales. And after that they'll be pushing models, not prices, down the line.

 

I don't think we'll see a $299 iPad 2 but I could see an update to the iPad 2, retaining the lower-resolution screen, sticking around at the $399 price point. Upgrade the processor, that sort of thing. 

 

By the way, I bought the 2 when the 3 came out and have not regretted it. It doesn't feel like that much of a compromise considering the $100 you save. Eventually I'll upgrade to the top-of-the-line iPad but by then I expect the device to be lighter and run cooler. 

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Ive closed by reiterating the Apple mantra that "we don't do market research".

 

In the infamous words of Henry Ford: "If I had asked people what they wanted, they'd have said 'a faster horse'."

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[Ive] explained how, in the 90s, Apple was very close to bankruptcy and that "you learn a lot about vital corporations through non-vital corporations". When Steve Jobs returned to the company in 1997, his focus was not on making money -- "His observation was that the products weren't good enough. His resolve was to make better products." This was a different approach from other attempts to turn the company around, which had focused first and foremost on cost savings and revenue generation.

 

If only all those companies laying off everyone realized this concept and put it to use.

 

On topic: I hope the next iPhone comes out in September. That would be earlier than I expected and I'd be able to replace my 4 sooner. I'm not really the target for the iPad market so I could careless about if/when a smaller iPad comes out (I truly hope Apple doesn't name it iPad mini like so many websites have taken to calling this mythical device).

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…an update to the iPad 2, retaining the lower-resolution screen, sticking around at the $399 price point. Upgrade the processor, that sort of thing. 

 

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no…

 

"Apple is going to give the iPhone 3GS an A4 chip and drop the iPhone 4!" 

What absolute nonsense is that. How does that make any sense?

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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no…

 

"Apple is going to give the iPhone 3GS an A4 chip and drop the iPhone 4!" 

What absolute nonsense is that. How does that make any sense?

 

Well I guess early next year we'll see what direction Apple chooses to go in. I think we'll see a continuation of the two price points and as such there will be an update to the lower price point product, as well as the top-of-the-line model. 

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Originally Posted by Carmissimo View Post
I think we'll see a continuation of the two price points…

 

I said the same thing last year. Boy was I wrong. Some fizzle-bang f-thoom wrong action there.


….an update to the lower price point product, as well as the top-of-the-line model. 

 

Yes, by virtue of this year's model becoming last year's model at this year's last year's model's price point. Not through the iPad 2 magically getting new hardware and still being called "iPad 2".

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Slowing sales which are still higher than the the top selling Galaxy S III and are not due to the design but historically have happened before a new product launch, announced by Apple as happening in "fall". (Spring down here), it doesn't take a genius to figure out that it will coincide with iOS 6.0.

 

Not to the same extent. iPhone 4S sales have started to slow down 6 months before the anticipated new version. In the past it's only hit sales for a few weeks before the new model. No matter how Apple try to spin it it's clear a lot of people are switching to other brands instead of buying the iPhone 4S. It will be interesting to see whether or not that trend will be reversed with the iPhone 5. Not in the first few months, but 6 months out when the initial post launch sales rush has worn off.

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So, you're not a troll. Your signature is not a troll signature. That comment is honestly felt from the heart. The slowing sales of iPhone 4S are not due to the Next iPhone's anticipation.

 

/sarcasm

 

Comments like this really piss me off. Not everyone who expresses a different opinion is a troll. Grow up or shut up. 

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Funny stuff, from a tiresome poster.

 

Whatever the design, I'm sure that, following his standard practice, he'll be buying 3 each for his entire family.

 

Do have any opinions of your own or is that beyond your intellectual capability?

 

It's so much easier to constantly criticise others rather than put your head above the parapet and express an opinion.

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They're already doing that. It's called "iPad 2 for $399." And next spring it will be "iPad 2 for $299". The iPad 2 was a great product. People pretend to love it more than the 3rd iPad, for heaven's sake! When the 4th one comes out, the iPad 2 will still see huge sales. And after that they'll be pushing models, not prices, down the line.

 

The iPad 2 will probably get discontinued next March when the iPad 4 comes out. The iPad Mini will fill that price point.

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As a longtime (25+ year) owner/supporter of Apple products, I (along with many others) would like to so more forward progress in their designs/efforts.

Definitely agree with you there. A change in the design would be great and they've had plenty of time to think about it. Let's wait and see.

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Do have any opinions of your own or is that beyond your intellectual capability?

 

It's so much easier to constantly criticise others rather than put your head above the parapet and express an opinion.

 

No, like the rest of the iSheep, I only have the opinions that Apple tells me to have.

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If only all those companies laying off everyone realized this concept and put it to use.

 

To be fair there have been a lot of companies who have had great products but have still gone out of business because their competitors had better marketing, distribution, pricing, etc. Great products don't guarantee success, it's about the whole package, or the 5 P's as the marketing people would say: Product, Price, Promotion, Place (Distribution Channel) and People (Building Relationships). Great products priced competitively, imaginative promotions, the AppleStore and building a loyal fan base of customers have all contributed to the mix.

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The iPad 2 was a great product. People pretend to love it more than the 3rd iPad, for heaven's sake!

My missus prized my iPad 2 out of my fingers when my 3 first arrived and i had to use it on Saturday night when the 3's battery went flat. I thought my glasses had steamed up lol

 

When comparing models you tend to think the retina is a luxury you perhaps don't need. A bit like when my first gen iPad arrived i thought do i really need this. Now i just can't use the 2 at all. The retina display is just that good.

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Ok, to both previous post about this... here's my 2 cents.. DON'T UNDERESTIMATE the APPLE BEHEMOTH that it has become- they are now manufacturing products in Brazil and even here in the US, as for the smaller form factor iPad-Mini; YES they will def be releasing it prob in October more likely right before the Thanksgiving Holiday to catch the XMAS rush so as not to take away any thunder from the new and IMPROVED WORLD iPhone 5 (of which I will be spending the night outside the store to get my hands on and YES these things will SELL LIKE HOTCAKES and FLY, FLY, FLY off the shelves much faster than the regular iPad model because many, many people have a price break point (that would be around the $250-$300.) that they could justify spending and the kids will FREAK OUT when they get their hands on this little device (Nintendo, Wi and Sony you guys better get back to the drawing board) they will NEVER PUT it DOWN and the KINDLE FIRE will ... well just go up in SMOKE and they will have to have that final FIRE SALE like they intended from the beginning.

 

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