Apple designer Chris Stringer reveals dozens of iPhone prototypes at trial - Page 2

So early in the game and Samsung is already in "check". By showing the jury 40 prototypes (and I'm sure there are many more) of early iPhones design concepts, Apple strikes down the notion by Samsung (and many of their fans) that there's only so many ways to design a phone around a basic rectangle and they will all end up resembling an iPhone. Here Apple showed that there are many many ways to design a phone, around a "basic rectangle", without it looking exactly like the actual iPhones that was released. Apple showed to the jury that the design of the iPhone is more than the 2 dimensional basic rectangle that Samsung wants you believe it is. It's more or less like a 3 dimensional rectangular cuboid (only without the right angles).  

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Originally Posted by sennen 

Innovate don't litigate, Apple.

spoken from a person that has probably never created a single thing in their lifetime. Apple is making the point that huge financial investments (which is what business is all about) and in the case of the iPhone the actual future health of the company was at risk if they failed to get the iPhone a "wow" product. The iPhone is a masterpiece of technology and designed and is greater than its parts. Samsung (and others) with the help of Google's rip off OS Android are profiting from the path Apple has cleared with the iPhone and iPad. Innovation will end when it is simply not worth investing in innovation because it is easier and more profitable as in Samsung's case to just copy another product. 

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Originally Posted by Blitz1 


now that's a design process!
Btw, evolution in ideas, as opposed to genetic evolution, works horizontally as well as vertically. For instance, general relativity would have found it's way, even without Einstein. Pointcaré came up with th same ideas at about the same time but following a more geometric route.
The images presented by Samsung, where the F700 is depicted, show just that.
As does the notification center on my iphone...

Poincaré: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henri_Poincar%C3%A9

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Originally Posted by Blitz1 


now that's a design process!
Btw, evolution in ideas, as opposed to genetic evolution, works horizontally as well as vertically. For instance, general relativity would have found it's way, even without Einstein. Pointcaré came up with th same ideas at about the same time but following a more geometric route.
The images presented by Samsung, where the F700 is depicted, show just that.
As does the notification center on my iphone...

This F700?

Yep, spitting image of the iPhone, you can hardly tell them apart. /s

Proof of Samsung's bullshit, misleading campaign at least the judge had the common sense to throw this stupid comparison out.

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Originally Posted by DavidW 

So early in the game and Samsung is already in "check". By showing the jury 40 prototypes (and I'm sure there are many more) of early iPhones design concepts, Apple strikes down the notion by Samsung (and many of their fans) that there's only so many ways to design a phone around a basic rectangle and they will all end up resembling an iPhone. Here Apple showed that there are many many ways to design a phone, around a "basic rectangle", without it looking exactly like the actual iPhones that was released. Apple showed to the jury that the design of the iPhone is more than the 2 dimensional basic rectangle that Samsung wants you believe it is. It's more or less like a 3 dimensional rectangular cuboid (only without the right angles).  

This is exactly what I was thinking.

So many different designs! What a “coincidence” that only the ones seen outside of Apple were blatantly copied...

And here I was thinking there WAS only one way to design a phone, and Apple invented nothing...

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Originally Posted by SockRolid 

Just FYI, here's the specific phone that Samsung claims Apple copied in their original iPhone design.

(According to John Paczkowski, All Things D, and John Gruber, anyway...)

 

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Now, does that look like the original iPhone?

Does it look like any iPhone?

 

 

i suspect the argument goes if you remove the physical keypad from the Sony phone, the form factor and user interface has resemblance to today's smartphones.  perhaps the lawyers for Samsung are stating the current set of smartphones are an evolution of and/or inspired by products from years past.

Originally Posted by emacs72 
perhaps the lawyers for Samsung are stating the current set of smartphones are an evolution of and/or inspired by products from years past.

That's exactly what the trolls say, at least. "What Apple did was a "natural progression" of what all phones were doing at the time. The iPhone was nothing unique."

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil 

 

That's exactly what the trolls say, at least. "What Apple did was a "natural progression" of what all phones were doing at the time. The iPhone was nothing unique."

i suspect trolls are a bit more blunt in their messaging.

if there's compelling reasons to believe the form factor and user interface / experience of the Sony Ericsson phone would have evolved into something akin to what we have today, Samsung has a case.  of course, Apple thinks otherwise.

Originally Posted by emacs72 
i suspect trolls are a bit more blunt in their messaging.

Nope, that's exactly what they say.

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil 

 

That's exactly what the trolls say, at least. "What Apple did was a "natural progression" of what all phones were doing at the time. The iPhone was nothing unique."

I am not a troll (I guess that's subjective) but I do believe touchscreen based smartphones was a natural progression. The question is when and how it would have happened. Dating back to 1984, Apple has a history of not just being first with delivering such *progressions*, but doing so with little regard for legacy. Being an innovative pioneer does not mean one has to invent every component of a system from scratch. From GUI to touch to SSD to Retina Display, Apple didn't invent any of these technologies but has clearly been the first to deliver them to the mass market in a uniquely Applesque way.

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil 

 

Nope, that's exactly what they say.

in which case, we'll have to see whether the jury shares the same viewpoint.

anyways, i served on a jury before (double attempted murder) and i would love to be in the courtroom in current Samsung vs Apple proceedings.