You should probably hold that comment into Apple announces it.
Or at least loses the prototype in a bar
Cue says he was. And uses an e-mail that isn't from Jobs and doesn't even CC him to prove it. Jobs' receptivity is not what you're thinking.


I hope my future experience won't be the same. After playing around with a Nexus 7 a few times in the past couple of weeks I picked one up for myself. It certainly feels like a premium tablet so far, and responsiveness has been great. There's been no discernable lag, games like "The Dark Knight Rises" play smoothly without hiccups (huge download BTW), and voice recognition is particularly impressive. You've all seen the Siri commercials that show an immediate response to inquiries, followed by a disclaimer about shortened sequences? That's pretty much the experience I've had with the Nexus 7 searches so far, except no need for the disclaimer. It really does offer most results within a couple of seconds.
With that said, it's not the same as Siri, altho it accomplishes the same goals for the most part albeit faster. It's not going to have a back and forth "conversation" (for lack of a better term) with you, instead simply offering results to specific inquiries. If I ask "did the Rays win last night" I'll get a verbal response within literally 2-3 seconds, "No, the Rays lost last night in 10 innings 1 to nothing". (Note I don't have to specify the TampaBay Rays). The voice is very pleasant and natural sounding too, more so than Siri's IMO. But if I instead ask "what was the score in the last Rays' game" I get a list of web results rather than a voice response, altho the same fast delivery of the results. It's obvious that Google has tuned Jellybean to respond to specifically framed inquiries with verbal feedback, but if not worded in a way that it immediately understands it will give web results instead. Google's voice search isn't going to come back with a question to clarify/confirm your inquiry like Apple's Siri might. There's no AI involved with Google results as far as I know.
IMO that's not really a bad thing so far as I'm personally more interested in getting results than having a conversation to get to the same answers, but some people may need the assistance in nailing down what they really wanted to ask. I usually have a good idea how to frame a search query and seldom ask a rambling question whether by voice or keyboard. The search function in at least Jellybean works great for me, but may not for you if you need that back and forth that Siri can provide. I have noticed that Google's recognition of what I've verbally said is more accurate than in Apple's Siri in the little bit of comparison I've done, tho not dramatically so.
My impression so far: Yes, it's absolutely a "high quality product". Sorry you have had a different experience with your particular unit. Perhaps you expected it to be an iPad in a small form, which it isn't and was never intended to be. Perhaps it's because it was a rushed beta release for the presentation event. Dunno.
For what it is and what it does, I feel I'm going to receive much more value than it cost me in dollars. As an aside, Asus recognized that the original white textured back on the give-away Nexus 7 from I/O was prone to scratching or discoloration according to press mentions and have changed it for the consumer devices. As for it being "returned in swarms", I have no idea where you get that news from. I've not seen any articles that make that claim, but fell free to offer a link if true.
... and that's pretty much all I'll have to say about it for the most part unless specifically asked. This is the first time I've praised a non-Apple device here, but this 7" tablet deserves it IMO. It's not an iPad, but it's a darn good tablet for those that don't need a large slate or can't justify the $500 price for one. Anandtech agrees, giving it a Bronze Editor's Choice award. Of course Apple's upcoming 7-8 inch iPad may well get the gold. We'll see before long IMO.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6073/the-google-nexus-7-review
As an Apple enthusiast site it's certainly better to keep the focus on Apple IMO, so my apologies in advance if this post is a distraction. Just wanted to respond to the previous complaint with another side from another owner.
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"No theatrics and no more personal attacks, just stick to the logic and tell me why I don't have any argument ~ Jragosta/2012




Please do list some citations for the Nexus 7 being "returned in swarms". What I've seen doesn't reported is not much different from new iPad or MacBook releases. Are those being "returned in swarms too" if I read about a couple dozen users with the same reported issue?
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"No theatrics and no more personal attacks, just stick to the logic and tell me why I don't have any argument ~ Jragosta/2012
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"No theatrics and no more personal attacks, just stick to the logic and tell me why I don't have any argument ~ Jragosta/2012

I hope my future experience won't be the same. After playing around with a Nexus 7 a few times in the past couple of weeks I picked one up for myself. It certainly feels like a premium tablet so far, and responsiveness has been great. There's been no discernable lag, games like "The Dark Knight Rises" play smoothly without hiccups (huge download BTW), and voice recognition is particularly impressive. You've all seen the Siri commercials that show an immediate response to inquiries, followed by a disclaimer about shortened sequences? That's pretty much the experience I've had with the Nexus 7 searches so far, except no need for the disclaimer. It really does offer most results within a couple of seconds.
With that said, it's not the same as Siri, altho it accomplishes the same goals for the most part albeit faster. It's not going to have a back and forth "conversation" (for lack of a better term) with you, instead simply offering results to specific inquiries. If I ask "did the Rays win last night" I'll get a verbal response within literally 2-3 seconds, "No, the Rays lost last night in 10 innings 1 to nothing". (Note I don't have to specify the TampaBay Rays). The voice is very pleasant and natural sounding too, more so than Siri's IMO. But if I instead ask "what was the score in the last Rays' game" I get a list of web results rather than a voice response, altho the same fast delivery of the results. It's obvious that Google has tuned Jellybean to respond to specifically framed inquiries with verbal feedback, but if not worded in a way that it immediately understands it will give web results instead. Google's voice search isn't going to come back with a question to clarify/confirm your inquiry like Apple's Siri might. There's no AI involved with Google results as far as I know.
IMO that's not really a bad thing so far as I'm personally more interested in getting results than having a conversation to get to the same answers, but some people may need the assistance in nailing down what they really wanted to ask. I usually have a good idea how to frame a search query and seldom ask a rambling question whether by voice or keyboard. The search function in at least Jellybean works great for me, but may not for you if you need that back and forth that Siri can provide. I have noticed that Google's recognition of what I've verbally said is more accurate than in Apple's Siri in the little bit of comparison I've done, tho not dramatically so.
My impression so far: Yes, it's absolutely a "high quality product". Sorry you have had a different experience with your particular unit. Perhaps you expected it to be an iPad in a small form, which it isn't and was never intended to be. Perhaps it's because it was a rushed beta release for the presentation event. Dunno.
For what it is and what it does, I feel I'm going to receive much more value than it cost me in dollars. As an aside, Asus recognized that the original white textured back on the give-away Nexus 7 from I/O was prone to scratching or discoloration according to press mentions and have changed it for the consumer devices. As for it being "returned in swarms", I have no idea where you get that news from. I've not seen any articles that make that claim, but fell free to offer a link if true.
... and that's pretty much all I'll have to say about it for the most part unless specifically asked. This is the first time I've praised a non-Apple device here, but this 7" tablet deserves it IMO. It's not an iPad, but it's a darn good tablet for those that don't need a large slate or can't justify the $500 price for one. Anandtech agrees, giving it a Bronze Editor's Choice award. Of course Apple's upcoming 7-8 inch iPad may well get the gold. We'll see before long IMO.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6073/the-google-nexus-7-review
As an Apple enthusiast site it's certainly better to keep the focus on Apple IMO, so my apologies in advance if this post is a distraction. Just wanted to respond to the previous complaint with another side from another owner.
LOL awesome job, advertise the hell out of that before the new apple product comes out, and makes the nexus an obsolete POS.
You don't have a lot of constructive comments to add today do you?
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"No theatrics and no more personal attacks, just stick to the logic and tell me why I don't have any argument ~ Jragosta/2012
93 pages of iPad wi-fi comments/complaints doesn't mean it's being returned in huge numbers does it, or that there's a serious QC problem? Add another 87 pages of iPad overheating discussion. Would you now call that proof of quality problems? Add another 46 pages of comments on screen discoloration. Is that proof Apple's latest iPad has QC problems? Of course not.
Every new product release has some initial issues. If they're still there 60 days in, then there may really be a problem IMHO. Initial complaints from a relative handful of buyers is to be expected and not a sign of massive returns or widespread quality problems as far as I'm concerned. Might there be a QC problem with the Nexus 7? Certainly can't be completely discounted but certainly not proved by your link.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3812929?start=0&tstart=0
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3810951?start=0&tstart=0
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3810949?start=0&tstart=0
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"No theatrics and no more personal attacks, just stick to the logic and tell me why I don't have any argument ~ Jragosta/2012
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"No theatrics and no more personal attacks, just stick to the logic and tell me why I don't have any argument ~ Jragosta/2012
Unless it's this. We're told Jobs was on top of several years' worth of new products, at least in general, yet the small iPad is still just something he's essentially upgraded to "not 100% against".
At some point, it stops being Jobs' company. I think we're close. Nothing inherently wrong with that.