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A new series of photos have surface online, claiming to confirmed much rumored plans by Apple to introduce a more compact "nano-SIM" standard alongside this year's iPhone aimed at helping the company designed more compact and streamlined iOS devices going forward.

The photos of the empty SIM tray, published over at Nowhereelse.fr, reveal a design that will command roughly 40 percent less internal space when compared to existing micro-SIM cards, which should allow smartphone makers like Apple to make smaller handsets with increased functionality.

Rumors of Apple's intentions to employ the more compact SIM standard gained steam back in March when it was reported that Apple was offering to license a new, ultra-compact SIM card technology to rival mobile devices makers at no cost if they agreed back the format as the new industry standard.

Sized roughly a third smaller than existing MicroSIM cards found inside current iPads and iPhones, the so-called nano-SIM design -- which is also noticeably thinner than that of MicroSIM -- was reportedly modified back in May to address objections on the part of rival handset maker Nokia.

The Finnish company claimed the design violated a "no jamming" rule because its length was too similar to the width of current-generation micro-SIMs. Apple responded in May by slightly adjusting the dimensions of card by adding a small amount of plastic around the edges of the electrical contacts, making the new nano-SIM just long enough so that it can't be forced lengthwise into an incompatible socket.



The European Telecommunications Standards Institute in June ultimately selected Apple's revised nano-SIM design as the official fourth form factor for the SIM card standard. Since then, European wireless operators have reportedly been stockpiling the new SIM cards in anticipation of Apple's upcoming iPhone launch, which is expected to make its first appearance during an Apple media event on September 12th.
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Strange marking on the ruler at the half-centimeter mark: "0.5 mm". Surely this should be "0.5 cm", or "5 mm"?

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Strange marking on the ruler at the half-centimeter mark: "0.5 mm". Surely this should be "0.5 cm", or "5 mm"?

Looks like it's referring to those hash marks in between each mm and coincidently aligning on the .5 cm mark.


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Strange marking on the ruler at the half-centimeter mark: "0.5 mm". Surely this should be "0.5 cm", or "5 mm"?

Perhaps referring to the smallest denomination of the ruler.
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There is a modicum of space saved that can used for other things but this seems like such a waste of time and effort overall for such a small gain. I'd much rather have virtual SIMs that can be changed at will from Settings.

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Strange marking on the ruler at the half-centimeter mark: "0.5 mm". Surely this should be "0.5 cm", or "5 mm"?

Millimeters, centimeters, whatever... Forget that. Can't you see they label it iPhone 5? One person in particular around here is going to have a coronary.

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Millimeters, centimeters, whatever... Forget that. Can't you see they label it iPhone 5? One person in particular around here is going to have a coronary.

"The New iPhone" would have taken more space on the pic than the new SIM?
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There is a modicum of space saved that can used for other things but this seems like such a waste of time and effort overall for such a small gain. I'd much rather have virtual SIMs that can be changed at will from Settings.

But that would make it easier for you to dump your phone service carrier. You know they are against that.

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Only an iPhone can make a SIM tray an actual news item. 

 

You don't see "New photos claim to show finalized SIM tray destined for Huawei ZHS500X7000-Ascend Activa 6000FX Optimus Desire XL."

 

When a SIM tray, or a couple of screws, or the placement of a connector hole .0000005mm from its original location make big news in tech, you know you have absolutely ridiculous levels of mindshare. I feel so sorry for some of these Android OEMs. But they aren't in the game to reshape entire industries, anyway. 

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There is a modicum of space saved that can used for other things but this seems like such a waste of time and effort overall for such a small gain. I'd much rather have virtual SIMs that can be changed at will from Settings.

 

If only Apple could've convinced all the telecommunications companies to agree to that (any barrier to telco churn rates is a bonus for those companies). The next best thing would've been a massive reduction in SIM size by utilizing a different metal contact configuration, however no one would agree to that either probably do to lack of backwards compatibility (I'd love to see a "SD micro to SD type" solution in the future). So the 3rd best thing was to cut the edges off the existing metal contact layout. And even with that minimal effort, we almost didn't get that over disagreements!

 

Regardless, any cubic mm of space saved is worth something.

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There is a modicum of space saved that can used for other things but this seems like such a waste of time and effort overall for such a small gain. I'd much rather have virtual SIMs that can be changed at will from Settings.

You would, I would, but the cell companies would have a hissy- fit!
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Only an iPhone can make a SIM tray an actual news item. 

 

You don't see "New photos claim to show finalized SIM tray destined for Huawei ZHS500X7000-Ascend Activa 6000FX Optimus Desire XL."

 

When a SIM tray, or a couple of screws, or the placement of a connector hole .0000005mm from its original location make big news in tech, you know you have absolutely ridiculous levels of mindshare. I feel so sorry for some of these Android OEMs. But they aren't in the game to reshape entire industries, anyway. 

 

And I absolutely love it! Apple has a new "secret or tactical or power generating' building on some parcel of land in the middle of nowhere, get aerial photos stat! The home button is .3mm smaller than last gen, get the most precise measurements possible and for god-sake, wear finger condoms! Some part from a Chinese factory was found by an Asian microblogger, let's give it to two PhDs to put it under a microscope to measure the size of the pixels!

 

I think it's awesome. Apple has so much mindshare, there are more leaked photos of the next iPhone on the internet than there are of the already released Galaxy S3.

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There is a modicum of space saved that can used for other things but this seems like such a waste of time and effort overall for such a small gain. I'd much rather have virtual SIMs that can be changed at will from Settings.

I agree.

However, it seems likely that Apple was unable to convince anyone to go with virtual SIMs at this point, so the next best thing may be to proliferate new designs so that at some point in the future they can say "this is a mess - look at all the different SIMs that carriers and customers need to keep track of. Let's just get rid of them entirely. But who knows?
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If only Apple could've convinced all the telecommunications companies to agree to that (any barrier to telco churn rates is a bonus for those companies). The next best thing would've been a massive reduction in SIM size by utilizing a different metal contact configuration, however no one would agree to that either probably do to lack of backwards compatibility (I'd love to see a "SD micro to SD type" solution in the future). So the 3rd best thing was to cut the edges off the existing metal contact layout. And even with that minimal effort, we almost didn't get that over disagreements!

Regardless, any cubic mm of space saved is worth something.

I had an idea for a screw-based SIM. I'll use bullet point in an attempt to succinct in my description.

  • Short screw, threaded at top, only.
  • Bottom of screw is flat, has round connector plate in disc formation thereby making rotation or screw a non-issue for striking the connector plate. Also can use sides of screw for contacts but device will need to use pressure to connect to sides.
  • Data storage is held within chamber in screw.
  • Size of storage is dramatically reduced as obsolete method to store contacts and SMS are removed.

Production could be an issue. It's certainly possible but it might be too costly compared to current SIMs since it's not a flat design. It would considerably smaller though as even the spring release mechanism on the iPhone is larger than what I propose.
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Millimeters, centimeters, whatever... Forget that. Can't you see they label it iPhone 5? One person in particular around here is going to have a coronary.

 

Unfortunately, I don't think we'll be that lucky.

 

Look at all the space they'll save!  So much room for more batteries.  :-)

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There is a modicum of space saved that can used for other things but this seems like such a waste of time and effort overall for such a small gain. I'd much rather have virtual SIMs that can be changed at will from Settings.
It's not just about reducing the size of one component. This size decrease, combined with other size decreases elsewhere within the handset add up. Apple can then choose to make the handset thinner, increase the battery capacity, use a bigger/more capable camera module, increase the speaker size, etc.

By the way, Apple wanted a "virtual" embedded SIM but the carriers threw a fit.

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/11/18/european_carriers_threaten_apple_over_embedded_sim_option.html
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You would, I would, but the cell companies would have a hissy- fit!

Isn't Verizon's CDMA chip sort of a virtual SIM? They can still lock it to a carrier I think.

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Only an iPhone can make a SIM tray an actual news item. 

 

You don't see "New photos claim to show finalized SIM tray destined for Huawei ZHS50...

 

Speaking of which, how many other non Apple devices uses the Micro SIM sized card?
I remember the first SIM cards were the size of credit cards, it underlines how far mobile phone technology has progressed over the years!
 
It also illustrates how much smaller mobile phones have become, which is why I'm puzzled why some people want to walk around with huge phones again.
But that issue is another big can of worms.
 
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Isn't Verizon's CDMA chip sort of a virtual SIM? They can still lock it to a carrier I think.

A virtual SIM would allow you to use system or baseband software to enter the parameters of a new SIM card for a different number, carrier, and/or country for access, and let you store multiple vSIMs on the baseband and then switch between them as needed. This is low level so it would surely require a restart of the device, for example, when you reset a Network Settings in the iPhone. CDMA is a HW locked SIM. You could call it an internal SIM or on-board SIM but it's not virtual in that you can't jump between, say, Verizon and Sprint at will.

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No no no no no no no.  There is a self made genius here who has proven the next iPhone will be called iPhone 6!!!!!!!!  Your all wrong.  His user id has an X in it.

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There is a modicum of space saved that can used for other things but this seems like such a waste of time and effort overall for such a small gain. I'd much rather have virtual SIMs that can be changed at will from Settings.

 

The other aspect is that a lot, if not most carriers will refuse to give you a new sim without upgrading to a new service and a new contract.  It's an awful thing to do and probably should be illegal but even in places where it isn't technically policy, I've seen carriers doing it to customers just because they can.  

 

I wonder how long it's going to be before people start to realise that the one thing the iPhone set out to do that it *hasn't* yet done is "change the cell phone industry," (at least not in the sense of making the carriers do anything different, or offer fair contracts and stop preying on their customers etc.)

 

This was actually part of Apple's goal at the beginning of the iPhone phenomenon and Steve Jobs said as much on stage at the original announcement.  Over the years however, whenever they do something that the carriers don't seem to like, they have basically backed down or scraped the idea in favour of what the carrier wants.  Possibly Apple didn't realise how much the subsidies they enjoy on the iPhone sales would basically tie them to the carrier and leave them with few independent options.  

 

I find this possibly the most disappointing aspect of the whole "revolution" that here we are five years later with the same cell carrier monopolies and the same bad deal on contracts and pricing.  Apple should really focus on bringing the price of the iPhone down so they can sell it off contract in much larger numbers.  Only then will we even begin to see the monopolies start to fade away and even then it will take years after that before things are finally oriented towards the customer instead of the cell corporation.  

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No no no no no no no.  There is a self made genius here who has proven the next iPhone will be called iPhone 6!!!!!!!!  Your all wrong.  His user id has an X in it.

 

Actually TallestSkil is the user that is most adamant about the "iPhone 6" and talks it up (as well as talking down to the non-believers), more than anyone else.  

 

Whatever it's eventually named however, it's extremely unlikely that the new iPhone will, ever, ever, ever, be called "iPhone 5."  Almost everyone agrees with that.  Tech blogs just use "iPhone 5" as a placeholder not because they are actually arguing that it will be called that. 

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Actually TallestSkil is the user that is most adamant about the "iPhone 6" and talks it up (as well as talking down to the non-believers), more than anyone else.  

Whatever it's eventually named however, it's extremely unlikely that the new iPhone will, ever, ever, ever, be called "iPhone 5."  Almost everyone agrees with that.  Tech blogs just use "iPhone 5" as a placeholder not because they are actually arguing that it will be called that. 

I think they should call it the iPhone 9. WAAAAYYYYYY better than the Samsung S3 - at least 3 times as good.
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Actually TallestSkil is the user that is most adamant about the "iPhone 6" and talks it up (as well as talking down to the non-believers), more than anyone else.  

Whatever it's eventually named however, it's extremely unlikely that the new iPhone will, ever, ever, ever, be called "iPhone 5."  Almost everyone agrees with that.  Tech blogs just use "iPhone 5" as a placeholder not because they are actually arguing that it will be called that. 

Clearly he's referring to me with his passive aggressive statement. I suppose he thinks that indemnifies him from making a slanderous statement if he's too cowardly to post my name. Still waiting for him to show proof that I've said it will be called iPhone 6 as opposed to saying iPhone 5 is the least likely option based on historical data.

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Does it matter what they call it? It's sales will still exceed the total of all iPhones sold to date as has been forstalled. . . er, I mean foretold.

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Does it matter what they call it? It's sales will still exceed the total of all iPhones sold to date as has been forstalled. . . er, I mean foretold.

Nope. But it does matter that people are being rational and using logic to come to a sound conclusion. I've even made arguments as to why Apple would call it the iPhone 5, I just don't think it's the most likely name for the 6th gen iPhone running iOS 6, using 4G LTE and being in the 4th case design style.


PS: The court revealed some interesting data. I think it was about the iPhone, but that each new iPhone has outsold every previous iPhone put together. We're only moving into the 6th year of iPhone sales but that's pretty impressive. I don't they can keep this up for too much longer unless they get China Mobile on board and within a couple years after that they find a a way to make India a viable market for new iPhones.

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PS: The court revealed some interesting data. I think it was about the iPhone, but that each new iPhone has outsold every previous iPhone put together.

..and that explains my last post. :)

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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post
Actually TallestSkil is the user that is most adamant about the "iPhone 6" and talks it up (as well as talking down to the non-believers), more than anyone else.  

 

Nope. I believe "the new iPhone". I'm the most adamant about it NOT being "iPhone 5". Haven't believed "iPhone 6" since the day of the 3rd iPad's launch.

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Nope. I believe "the new iPhone". I'm the most adamant about it NOT being "iPhone 5". Haven't believed "iPhone 6" since the day of the 3rd iPad's launch.

Thanks for clarifying. I actually, agree with you. "The new iPhone". I call it iPhone 5 colloquially but I don't think Apple will do it.
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To call it iPhone 5 would make a lot more sense than to call it iPhone 6 since internally the version string for the iPhone 4S is iPhone4,1 (my 64GB Wi-Fi 4G iPad is an iPad3,3; not sure whether the minor number changes based on specifications).

 

Back to the topic: if they're making this change, I hope they extend it to the iPad as well, not because I believe there's a need for space inside an iPad but because I like to have the ability to swap the SIMs when I need to send lots of SMSes through my iPad's SIM (which are free).

 

EDIT: Just found out what the version strings are supposed to represent:

 

  • iPhone1,1 was the original iPhone (GSM);
  • iPhone1,2 was the iPhone 3G (GSM);
  • iPhone2,1 was the iPhone 3GS (GSM);
  • iPhone3,1 was the iPhone 4 (GSM);
  • iPhone3,3 was the iPhone 4 (CDMA);
  • iPhone4,1 was the iPhone 4S (GSM+CDMA).

 

The above makes my theory that the iPhone would be named after its version less plausible since the iPhone 4 was an iPhone3, but it also demonstrates that Apple is pretty inconsistent when it comes to their versioning information.


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