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Apple continues to expand the capabilities of Maps in iOS 6 with Monday's release of the beta number four, adding a U.S., Canadian and European cities to those with "flyover" 3D data.

In preparation of rolling out its newest mobile operating system, Apple has updated its Maps app to include so-called "flyover" data for a number of major cities worldwide, including Philadelphia, Manchester and Toronto.

It should be noted that the iPad maker has yet to include New York as one of the 3D-capable cities, possibly over terrorism concerns.

New York
New York has yet to receive the flyover treatment in iOS 6 Maps.


Apple announced at WWDC 2012 that it would be ditching Google Maps for its own proprietary mapping service borne out of a 2011 acquisition of Swedish 3D mapping company C3 Technologies, a spin-off from Saab's AB defense arm. A recent side-by-side comparison between 3D maps created in iOS 6 and the new function in Google Maps gave a slight edge to Apple's solution in terms of resolution and rendering speed.

The new iOS 6 Maps app will feature TomTom-powered turn-by-turn navigation with integrated Siri support, Yelp recommendations and vector-based mapping for fast 2D rendering.

More information on Maps and other new iOS 6 features can be found in AppleInsider's First Look: iOS 6 series.

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Philadelphia

Boston

Atlanta

New Orleans

Portland

Phoenix


Canada

Toronto


United Kingdom

Birmingham

Manchester
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wow, of all the thousands of densely populated cities in Canada they managed to include ... one.

 

great  /s

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I'd venture that flying multiple passes over everywhere is easier than trying to drive down every road in every town in every state/province/prefecture/oblast in every country on the planet.

 

And combined with street shots of businesses, et. al., is a full-on equivalent of the now-discontinued QuickTime VR really the best solution?

 


Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post
wow, of all the thousands of densely populated cities in Canada they managed to include ... one.

 

great  /s

 

But it's Toronto, eh; it's the important one, there. lol.gif

 

And yes, I know about the whole 'western provinces aren't getting proper representation' thing going on. You do know it's a beta, right?

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yah yah yah.  Looks cool, totally useless.     They best have transit when it comes out or you're gonna piss off all these city people when they can't get around any more.

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wow, of all the thousands of densely populated cities in Canada they managed to include ... one.

great  /s

Give them time. This isn't some thing you can do in a day. They will get to as many places as they can as quick as they can

Including New York, which is likely due to complexity. Not terrorism. After all, terrorists will attack anywhere, not just New York.
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yah yah yah.  Looks cool, totally useless.     They best have transit when it comes out or you're gonna piss off all these city people when they can't get around any more.

 

Those people will just download the inevitable Google Maps app if its better.  No way Google is going to give up the entire iOS user base for their advertisers.

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WOW...

 

That's just magical.  The rest of the world will appreciate the lack of content and no street view.

 

iOS 6 is looking like it's going to go over about as well as Yahoo with the lack of any real map program or youtube.

Hey you, you there! Stop typing stuff into your computer. Stop that.

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{{any of his posts}}

 

It's sad how pathetic you people are.


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…Samsung Galaxy S III… …it's a computer…

 

There you go, now there's no excuse for whining about iPad shipments being counted as PCs.

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Originally Posted by 4TheLoveOfTech View Post
You as a moderator have just broke all the rules of blogging on a site.

 

Blogging? I don't blog.


I have NO, ZERO complaints or whining how iPads are counted.  I don't have a need for one.  I have a Nexus 7 and am invested in Google, I day trade Apple.

 

Indeed, and I do apologize for the ambiguity of that statement. I meant it as a generality, not as you specifically. "There you go" was simply a saying.

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Oh, how that hole where WTC lived doth hurt my soul. I prithy Apple leaves the map thus.
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yah yah yah.  Looks cool, totally useless.     They best have transit when it comes out or you're gonna piss off all these city people when they can't get around any more.

 

No, they'll just download the Google Maps app.

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I hope the turn by turn GPS will work offline or its kind of worthless for me. I use my GPS when I go to the US and I dont have a data plan in the US.

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WOW...

 

That's just magical.  The rest of the world will appreciate the lack of content and no street view.

 

iOS 6 is looking like it's going to go over about as well as Yahoo with the lack of any real map program or youtube.

 

 

Honestly? Street view is nice, but I used it once just to check out the cool pictures. In real life, it is just about useless or in the very least unneeded most of the time. This 3D mapping will be cooler and just as useless as Street view. Apple's maps address the number one shorting coming of the built in maps. Namely the lack of turn by turn navigation. Further, Tom is providing the mapping data, which means the map data will be good. 

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wow, of all the thousands of densely populated cities in Canada they managed to include ... one.

great  /s

Densely populated...

Canada....

Cities.....

THOUSANDS!?

If there were one thousand cities at a million per you'd be at a billion people. You're 9 peeps per square-mile? 35mil CO2 emitters? Hey, sorry they got 1 city but overstating the digits won't help the cause.


What am I missing? Perhaps the placement of the /s?
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WOW...

That's just magical.  The rest of the world will appreciate the lack of content and no street view.

iOS 6 is looking like it's going to go over about as well as Yahoo with the lack of any real map program or youtube.

Street view? Meh. Street view is only really necessary if you're incapable of reading a map.

I can see the argument over transit information, but the rest of the arguments are mostly whining. And if the Apple solution doesn't suit you, no one is stopping you from downloading an app from Google.
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It's on my Samsung Galaxy S III, not my computer.  Although, I guess you could say it's a computer as I don't need my laptop anymore once I'm out of the office.

 

I get home and have my Nexus 7 that is butter smooth.  Oh yeah, cool about the maps.  Just got side tracked by how much I use Google everyday.

 

 

Yet, you find time to bless us with your presence. Isn't there an Android forum somewhere, or is there not enough people using Android capable of sustaining a forum? 

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Street view? Meh. Street view is only really necessary if you're incapable of reading a map.
I can see the argument over transit information, but the rest of the arguments are mostly whining. And if the Apple solution doesn't suit you, no one is stopping you from downloading an app from Google.

 

 

I do not even see the transit argument because unlike Google Apple is embracing third party solutions and if you need transit maps the build in map application will direct you to available options. Further, people are whining and the product hasn't shipped yet. 

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Yet, you find time to bless us with your presence. Isn't there an Android forum somewhere, or is there not enough people using Android capable of sustaining a forum? 

 

This. Times infinity.

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Google doesn't have a choice.  All apps will default to Apple Maps.  Apple Maps need only be "good enough."  The only exception are the apparent shut-ins who seem to suggest they are unable to function without low resolution 360 degree panoramic images of everywhere to which they might possibly travel (although that apparently excludes most of the planet).

 
The percent of users who use the default apps on their smartphone or don't use their smartphone smartly is extremely high.
 
Notably, there are more cities which have been fully rendered than are listed in the article.
 
More importantly, the searchable database of points of interest has expanded as much as 1,000 times.  The difference is quite dramatic especially in foreign cities (Edinburgh, Rome, Seoul, Sydney, Yokohama, etc.).
 
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Originally Posted by 4TheLoveOfTech View Post
You either live in a box and don't have a computer or your are lying, or you're computer illiterate.

 

When you need it, I hope Google charges you to use it on 2007 tech phone.  Cool calculator though. 2+2 =4. Who would need more than that, it's only 2012.

 

You're about one or two posts away from a permanent ban, courtesy one of the other mods. Stop posting this stupid crap and get yourself back to a legitimate argument. It's quite obvious you've never even touched an iPhone.

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wow, of all the thousands of densely populated cities in Canada they managed to include ... one.

 

 

Well, Montreal was already the first Canadian city that they had at the WWDC 2012 demo of Maps, and now they just added Toronto. More cities to follow.

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Transit is vital to me, but I expect Google to step up to that task (and Street View as well) and that’s OK. (I do think they’ll wait a bit, to make sure there’s an outcry over the loss of transit, but in the end they want their maps in front of everyone’s eyes, so we’ll get transit back! Sadly, I will then be using two GREAT map apps instead of one single “very good” one. The consolidation was nice.)

 

Re those Flyover maps: it looks like one of those UK cities is not rendering with the same quality. Birmingham shows realistic oppressive UK fog rolling in, right out of Conan Doyle. But the pea soup fog is missing from the Manchester image. Hopefully they’ll add that before release.

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I'd venture that flying multiple passes over everywhere is easier than trying to drive down every road in every town in every state/province/prefecture/oblast in every country on the planet.

And combined with street shots of businesses, et. al., is a full-on equivalent of the now-discontinued QuickTime VR really the best solution?




But it's Toronto, eh; it's the important one, there. lol.gif


And yes, I know about the whole 'western provinces aren't getting proper representation' thing going on. You do know it's a beta, right?

If you go to the very very top of the CN tower on Kings Island... On a clear day, You can see downtown Buffalo.

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This thread has become shit. Thanks 4TheLoveOfTech¡

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You either live in a box and don't have a computer or your are lying, or you're computer illiterate.

 

When you need it, I hope Google charges you to use it on 2007 tech phone.  Cool calculator though. 2+2 =4. Who would need more than that, it's only 2012.

 

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am i missing something here?? what kind of calculator you are expecting on a phone? or you are just talking about the calculator icon?

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An additional note is that Apple resolved several major issues; traffic data (collisions, construction, road closures, traffic delays), lack of points of interest and small fonts for street names when navigating.

 

 
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WOW...

That's just magical.  The rest of the world will appreciate the lack of content and no street view.

iOS 6 is looking like it's going to go over about as well as Yahoo with the lack of any real map program or youtube.

Street view is completely worthless. I have never once had the need for it and I travel extensively (as in > 200 days/year). Same with transit. Most cities don't have it and those that do are frequently wrong on the Google routing.
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You either live in a box and don't have a computer or your are lying, or you're computer illiterate.

I see. So I'm computer illiterate or lying because I'm smart enough to look at a map on a GPS screen and figure out where I am - and you're not. Go figure.
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.  I have a Nexus 7 and am invested in Google,

Sorry to hear about that.
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It's on my Samsung Galaxy S III, not my computer.  Although, I guess you could say it's a computer as I don't need my laptop anymore once I'm out of the office.

 

I get home and have my Nexus 7 that is butter smooth.  Oh yeah, cool about the maps.  Just got side tracked by how much I use Google everyday.

 

You shouldn't get in so deep with one company. makes it too hard to leave their ecosystem

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I have a Nexus 7 and am invested in Google

And you have the nerve to accuse others of being computer illiterate? *shakes head*
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I should also add that Hop Stop is available for free and while not completely integrated with Apple Maps as yet, the maps are courtesy of Apple Maps.  Hop Stop provides public transit directions in the following cities:

 

New York City, New Jersey, Long Island, Metro North Area, Delaware, Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, Philadelphia, San Antonio, San Diego, Dallas, San Francisco, Austin, Columbus, Charlotte, Baltimore, Boston, Seattle, Washington, DC, Denver, Milwaukee, Portland, Las Vegas, Sacramento, Atlanta, Raleigh, Miami, Cleveland, Minneapolis, Honolulu, Tampa, St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Buffalo, Norfolk, Rochester, Salt Lake City, Providence, Kansas City, Hartford, Richmond, Albany, Lexington, Madison, Reno, Sarasota, Spokane, Moscow, London, St Petersburg, Paris, Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver, Ottawa, Calgary, Edmonton, Winnipeg, Hamilton, Halifax

 

There are many other excellent apps available today which, while not offering complete integration with Apple Maps are more than sufficient.  Certainly far better than the advertising platform Google uses to sucker the poor unfortunates who are lured to Google's closed-fisted grasp.

 

 
 
 

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NO NYC??? REALLY?

I think its really ridiculous if in fact Apple didn't include NYC due to terrorist reasons. Google has street view which is more revealing than the flyover feature. the same case can be made for every city in the USA.

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well said! recreating skylines in this manor is surely not an easy task.

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Well, Montreal was already the first Canadian city that they had at the WWDC 2012 demo of Maps, and now they just added Toronto. More cities to follow.

In that case, the fact of the matter is that they only have two cities to go until they have all the Canadian cities with over 1 million people. We don't even have 10 cities with over half a million. The others will come, I'm sure.

 

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If you go to the very very top of the CN tower on Kings Island... On a clear day, You can see downtown Buffalo.
It doesn't get any better than this!

Is that true? That's kind of awesome!

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More than "Sufficient" for who.  Would it be those that live in the cities listed above?  Wow, that is magical and I hope Apple has a solution for the rest of the world.

Edit... Grammatical.

Google transit work in only a small number of cities based on my travels. No great loss.
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It's on my Samsung Galaxy S III, not my computer.  Although, I guess you could say it's a computer as I don't need my laptop anymore once I'm out of the office.

 

I get home and have my Nexus 7 that is butter smooth.  Oh yeah, cool about the maps.  Just got side tracked by how much I use Google everyday.

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This thread has become shit. Thanks 4TheLoveOfTech¡

The guy is tekstud, for sure.

 

I hope they haul his 4$$ out of here soon.

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