Originally Posted by lamewing
His post has validity and if you would stop having a tantrum like a child you might realize this...
1. RIM first came up with in house messaging. Apple stole it from the blackberry.
2. The Zune from MS had wireless syncing. Apple/Job/fanbois called the idea stupid and worthless (a battery waster and such). Yet Apple has now added it.
3. The notification bar was being use on Android before Apple.. Apple took that idea and added it to iOS 5.
The point is that when Apple uses an idea from another company it seems to be okay, but when some other company takes an idea from Apple it isn't okay.
No, sorry, try again. The problem with you Android/Samsung/Microsoft fanboys/trolls is that you over simplify concepts and compare apples to oranges. Obviously, you are missing some of the subtleties of the different arguments.
First of all, using an "idea" isn't a problem. Just make your own implementation and don't make it exactly like someone else's. Jobs' "shameless copying" quote keeps getting brought up -- hello, that is about "ideas", not implementations. Using patented items is another matter -- this is complicated by time it takes to patent and whether "infringer" seeks a license, tries to avoid "infringing" or wilfully and blatantly "infringes".
Now, let's talk about one of your specific examples, number 2. Why was it stupid and worthless for MS, but not for Apple? Because we are hypocritical Apple fanboys who think every instance of "synching" equals every other instance of "synching"? Oh, wait, that was you.
The Zune's synching was all about music. It is a stupid waste of battery to have your MP3 player sit on your desk next to your computer and load music. The iPod did it over Firewire while you were in iTunes anyway deciding which Playlist or Albums to load. Apple's over the air synching is about different data such as contact details, bookmarks, calendar info, which is automatic the moment you are in any connected environment.
You can sync your music OTA to your iOS devices if you really want to... but guess what? Apple still thinks it's impratical, so they came up with iTunes Match and the whole cloud infrastructure and set up the license agreements which allows you to STREAM any song from our ENTIRE library at any time, any where, to any of your devices on demand, including songs which we didn't purchase from iTunes but which just happened to end up on our computers. That way you can play your 200GB library on your 8GB device without swapping 6GB of music every other day, whether that is OTA, via USB or via osmosis. Unlike any other services out there (before you mention music rental/subscription, etc.), these songs are still "your" songs (and higher quality ones to boot). They don't vanish off your computer when you cease to pay 25 per year -- you simply have to start "syncing" them yourself.
Meanwhile, you can still sync smart playlists to your device in the background, so that everyday you have your least played or highest rated songs, or whatever. If you are sitting down and choosing specific music from your master library to sync, music that is not auto generated by a smart list to sync in the background without any effort on your part, then you are better off plugging your device into your computer. Capiche?
Sheesh, cue all the "Microsoft/Samsung/Google did such and such first and Apple copied them" comments. Completely different implementation and usage -- as usual, Apple waits until all the pieces are in place to do it "right" and make it a useable and practical function. Apple doesn't care to get "syncing" on a bullet list of specs first.
So, here you are complaining about very broad concepts ("messaging", "syncing", "notifications") which Apple implemented in their own specific way or added a whole new dimension to; while we are complaining about very specific implementations of Apple that Samsung has lifted and put in place in their products complete down to the graphics. Geez, apples and oranges -- but all that just goes right over your head, doesn't it?