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A new report released on Wednesday shows Apple and Samsung have all but run away with the U.S. smartphone market and despite having only three models up for offer, the iPhone has generated the most growth during the second quarter of 2012.

According to data from market research firm NPD, as of the end of quarter two Apple's iPhone garnered nearly one third of the U.S. smartphone market with 31 percent, while Samsung managed 24 percent over the same period.

The firm notes combined smartphone sales for Apple and Samsung rose 43 percent year-to-year while sales for other brands fell 16 percent.

Following the Galaxy maker in brand market share was HTC with 15 percent and Motorola with 12 percent. Rounding out the top five was LG's 6 percent marketshare.

Total smartphone unit sales rose nine percent in the second quarter, with all growth driven by pre-paid smartphone sales which rose 91 percent year-over-year. Post-paid growth, however, was stagnant.

?Prepaid smartphones are no longer just cheap, also-ran options, focused on older and less capable phones,? said vice president of industry analysis at NPD Stephen Baker. ?As the smartphone market matures, and as growth slows, carriers have been smart to aggressively market some of their best current smartphones on a pre-paid basis to a new set of customers, in order to keep sales humming along.?

NPD Phone Track
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The firm's Mobile Phone Track service also found the income level of the average smartphone buyer is slowly shifting down from middle and upper-income households. At the end of the second quarter, 33 percent of smartphone buyers had an average household income of less than $35,000 per year, compared to 24 percent in 2011.

The downward penetration is likely to be a result of entry-level handsets like Apple's iPhone 3GS and the carry-over iPhone 4.

"By concentrating on their best, flagship devices, while at the same time supplementing their volumes with lower priced alternatives, both Apple and Samsung are extending their lead over the other smartphone makers,? Baker said.
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Apple takes over one-third U.S. smartphone marketshare

 

I bet before you know it, Samsung will try to copy this, too...

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Apple used the same strategy in the 80s and lost. No way they can continue to be successful.

 

 

/s

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Apple's iPhone garnered over one third of the U.S. smartphone market with 31 percent

When did 31 percent become greater than 1/3?

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interesting stories:

appleinsider reports "Apple takes over one-third U.S. smartphone marketshare, tops Samsung "

while pretty much at the same time, cnn runs a story about an IDC report where "Android races past Apple in smartphone market share" ... stating "More specifically, IDC pegged Android's gain "directly" to Samsung, "
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Wow, great news.

 

 


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Hey, Korean media will be very, very sad to hear this news. They have been really busy kissing Samsung's ass the whole year.

They are going to have hard time swallowing this. I can't wait to see how they are going to report after Samsung loses the trial in California. :)

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When did 31 percent become greater than 1/3?

 

Those 31% represent year-over-year sales growth, not share.  They are essentially stating that Apple sold 31% more phones in the previous quarter than they did in the same quarter last year while Samsung sold 24% more phones in the same time period.  It's not very well written, though.

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When did 31 percent become greater than 1/3?

Since all that "New Math" crap started lol.
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Apple's iPhone garnered over one third of the U.S. smartphone market with 31 percent

 

lol wut

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CNN ran quit a different story today. Android Races Past Apple in Smartphone Market which in a nutshell said "Google's Android surged to a whopping 68% share of the global smartphone market last quarter. That's four times more than the 17% market share held by Apple , according to a Wednesday report from research firm IDC."

 

I don't really care one way or the other. Apple is certainly making a ton of money and dominating the most important market which is profits. As long as Apple can make tons of money and say around 15% globally and around 33% of the U.S. market they are fine. Most of the overseas smartphones are used more like dumb flip phones anyways and they probably don't buy any apps or even surf that much on them. 

 

I used to think it is a two horse race with Android and iOS. I was right about two horses, but it looks more and more like it is Apple and Samsung since Samsung will end up driving a lot of these smaller Android companies out of the race all together. They are already at 44% of the total Android market which is more than the next seven companies combined and show no signs of slowing down. I would hate to be HTC, Motorola, Nokia, RIM, or LG right now having to compete against Apple and Samsung for sales. 

As a consumer why should I care if Apple or another company makes the most profit? I only care to buy a good device that serve my needs. Please save us with the overseas comment that they used dumb phone..for your info overseas telecommunication systems and networks are several years ahead of the US.

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Europe japan and korea all fit your story. India, and china swamp this on the low end. I don't think he is being as biggoted as it sounds. There are a lot of low end smart phones. Even in the USA the prepaid low end market is growing fastest.
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Hey, Korean media will be very, very sad to hear this news. They have been really busy kissing Samsung's ass the whole year.

They are going to have hard time swallowing this. I can't wait to see how they are going to report after Samsung loses the trial in California. :)

 

I guess you did not read CNNMoney today - The IDC numbers are out - they are not sad. 

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lol wut

That's 'Apple RDF Math'... the 'real world' tells a much different/more truthful story.
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Hey, Korean media will be very, very sad to hear this news. They have been really busy kissing Samsung's ass the whole year.

They are going to have hard time swallowing this. I can't wait to see how they are going to report after Samsung loses the trial in California. :)

 

 

Why?    According to Nielsen, Samsung had only 8% of the US smartphone market in Q2 2011; now it's 24%.  Yes, that's 300% gain.   Apple's share went from 28% to 31%; 10+% gain.   

 

 

<img src="http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/june-2011-smartphone-share.png">

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Most of the overseas smartphones are used more like dumb flip phones anyways and they probably don't buy any apps or even surf that much on them. 

 

 

Even though I own 2 Macs and 2 iPads, to me the iPhone is a low end mass market smartphone: 1/2 GB RAM, tiny screen, no AMOLED, no NFC, no SD, no LTE, no USB storage, small non-removable battery, assembled in sweat shops...

 

Million dollar marketing hype though.

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Apple used the same strategy in the 80s and lost. No way they can continue to be successful.

 

 

/s

Oh, sacasm is on.

 

BUT, were you there when Scully was at the helm of Apple and Jobs went soul searching? How it went during 80's and early 90's?

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Even though I own 2 Macs and 2 iPads, to me the iPhone is a low end mass market smartphone: 1/2 GB RAM, tiny screen, no AMOLED, no NFC, no SD, no LTE, no USB storage, small non-removable battery, assembled in sweat shops...

Million dollar marketing hype though.

1/2 gb ram? It is still the fastest running smartphone on geek bench- better than the S3. So what if it had 2gb, but was slower- would that be better?

Tiny screen- ok. This will likely change.
NFC- what does that help with currently? Google wallet sucks. It's actually awful.
Sd/USB storage- what phone had that at all anymore?
Small non-removable battery- again what phone has that now? And when it runs 8 hours (as opposed to the competition's 4 hrs)- they need an extra battery.

Lte will also be coming- but didn't want to be introduced until infrastructure and battery friendly chips were out (which just came out)- hence the 8 hr battery life behind such a "tiny" screen.

Apple will bring stuff out and introduce it to their phone when it's going to be best received. I think the bigger screen could have come last year- but that's it. Everything else could've and shouldve waited. Companies like google who rush google wallet out can claim "they had it first"- but it sucks. The technology wasn't there- the vendors werent on board- the programming was clunky- the security measures weren't in place- etc. that's why it wasn't well received. I'd love for apple to bring it out with this next iPhone- but if they decide to wait until 2013, so they can add fingerprint technology as a security feature while using the app- fine by me- that's smart.

Being first isn't always best- we've witnessed that. Being finished and polished is best.

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Even though I own 2 Macs and 2 iPads, to me the iPhone is a low end mass market smartphone: 1/2 GB RAM, tiny screen, no AMOLED, no NFC, no SD, no LTE, no USB storage, small non-removable battery, assembled in sweat shops...

 

Million dollar marketing hype though.

They would do better if Visa and astercard don't get cold feet and turn down any credit card numbers that isn't from the U.S. That's why app store never take off around here.

 

Thai carriers now converted their international scratch cards to use as payemnts for their own app stores, not iTune Store mind you. Would Apple Singapore say yes on Cupertino's behalf and let carriers clear the transaction for App Sotre for them?

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Europe japan and korea all fit your story. India, and china swamp this on the low end. I don't think he is being as biggoted as it sounds. There are a lot of low end smart phones. Even in the USA the prepaid low end market is growing fastest.

Has the Recession force U.S. customers' habit to trade down too?

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1/2 gb ram? It is still the fastest running smartphone on geek bench- better than the S3. So what if it had 2gb, but was slower- would that be better?
Tiny screen- ok. This will likely change.
NFC- what does that help with currently? Google wallet sucks. It's actually awful.
Sd/USB storage- what phone had that at all anymore?
Small non-removable battery- again what phone has that now? And when it runs 8 hours (as opposed to the competition's 4 hrs)- they need an extra battery.
Lte will also be coming- but didn't want to be introduced until infrastructure and battery friendly chips were out (which just came out)- hence the 8 hr battery life behind such a "tiny" screen.
Apple will bring stuff out and introduce it to their phone when it's going to be best received. I think the bigger screen could have come last year- but that's it. Everything else could've and shouldve waited. Companies like google who rush google wallet out can claim "they had it first"- but it sucks. The technology wasn't there- the vendors werent on board- the programming was clunky- the security measures weren't in place- etc. that's why it wasn't well received. I'd love for apple to bring it out with this next iPhone- but if they decide to wait until 2013, so they can add fingerprint technology as a security feature while using the app- fine by me- that's smart.
Being first isn't always best- we've witnessed that. Being finished and polished is best.

Very true!!
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That's 'Apple RDF Math'... the 'real world' tells a much different/more truthful story.

Can you get a hold on Bloomberg's numbers?

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Why?    According to Nielsen, Samsung had only 8% of the US smartphone market in Q2 2011; now it's 24%.  Yes, that's 300% gain.   Apple's share went from 28% to 31%; 10+% gain.   


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You can't even read the chart you linked to properly.

Nielsen and NPD are measuring different things. Installed base vs sales.

So that makes all your figures incorrect.
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Most of the overseas
smartphones
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anyways
and they probably don't buy any apps or even surf that much on them. 


Even though I own 2 Macs and 2 iPads, to me the iPhone is a low end mass market smartphone: 1/2 GB RAM, tiny screen, no AMOLED, no NFC, no SD, no LTE, no USB storage, small non-removable battery, assembled in sweat shops...

Million dollar marketing hype though.

So you fell for the marketing hype and bought one anyway?
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Apple takes over one-third U.S. smartphone marketshare

 

I bet before you know it, Samsung will try to copy this, too...

 

Steve Ballmer has dibs on copying Apple from last moth moving forward. Personally, Monkey boy will get it screwed up and match the iMac sales with the WinPhone sales.

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june-2011-smartphone-share.png;

Q2-2012-US-Smartphone-manufacturers-share-updated.png;

 

there, I found Nielson's Q2 2012 data..  so that's 8% in Q2, 2011 to 17% in Q2, 2012 - that's still 100+% gain.  Apple's share increased from 28% in Q2, 2011 to 34% in Q2, 2012 - that is only 20+% gain.  Nielsen's numbers are ased on # of US mobile subscribers.

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In AI, they don't want platform agnostics around, such as yourself, even for just switching phones. Windows Phone 8 is another viable alternative. Although, some will say WP8 has an ecosystem problem, but that is too much of an exaggerations. At most, I will install maybe 30-50 apps, of which half probably free ones. All of these and more are already in WP marketplace, already counting more than 100K apps there. Everything else, well you can always synch it from your computer anyway, an extra step but very doable. When you are being tied up to an ecosystem, it's like selling your soul to the devil. It's very difficult to escape because you have to jump over so many hoops to get it done.

 

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My perfect phone doesn't exist and probably never will. I want an iPhone the size of the Samsung Galaxy SIII screen but I want it to run iOS because I prefer it to Android, But then again I haven't played with the Jellybean release  which is supposed to make the GUI a lot smoother and faster which was my main gripe. My last android phone ran 2.3.4 so I am sure a lot has changed. I am very loyal to Apple when it comes to computers and have been for several decades now but not so much with phones since it is so easy to change without losing anything. In 10 months I will be eligible for my upgrade pricing and I will buy the best phone on the market at that time which should be around the release of the Galaxy S4 so I may just go back and forth between iPhone and Android which keeps things interesting. It is easy to get bored on one platform. 

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So you fell for the marketing hype and bought one anyway?

 

no. I don't own iphone

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So you fell for the marketing hype and bought one anyway?

no. I don't own iphone

You should probably change your signature line in that case...
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1/2 gb ram? It is still the fastest running smartphone on geek bench- better than the S3. So what if it had 2gb, but was slower- would that be better?
Tiny screen- ok. This will likely change.
NFC- what does that help with currently? Google wallet sucks. It's actually awful.
Sd/USB storage- what phone had that at all anymore?
Small non-removable battery- again what phone has that now? And when it runs 8 hours (as opposed to the competition's 4 hrs)- they need an extra battery.
Lte will also be coming- but didn't want to be introduced until infrastructure and battery friendly chips were out (which just came out)- hence the 8 hr battery life behind such a "tiny" screen.
Apple will bring stuff out and introduce it to their phone when it's going to be best received. I think the bigger screen could have come last year- but that's it. Everything else could've and shouldve waited. Companies like google who rush google wallet out can claim "they had it first"- but it sucks. The technology wasn't there- the vendors werent on board- the programming was clunky- the security measures weren't in place- etc. that's why it wasn't well received. I'd love for apple to bring it out with this next iPhone- but if they decide to wait until 2013, so they can add fingerprint technology as a security feature while using the app- fine by me- that's smart.
Being first isn't always best- we've witnessed that. Being finished and polished is best.

 

- RAM affects multitasking not GPU speed. Real multitasking is non-existant on iphone anyway - part of the reason it does not have more RAM.

- screen "will change"? Speculations. 4 inch is still tiny. Samsung offers full range 3.2"-5.3" NOW and a year ago.

- SD/USB storage available on most high end Android phones including Galaxy S3. You did not know? Really?

- removable battery available on most high end Android phones including Galaxy S3

- "Apple will bring stuff"? Apple is always playing catchup (copypaste, pseudo multitasking, pseudo 4G, dualcore, LTE, voice control, notifications, widgets, "large screen") . They should deliver future proof phones, instead of offering obsolete phones.

 

"Being finished and polished is best" - yea, right, are you talking about the antenna fiasco? It took them 16 month to "polish" that  :)


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You should probably change your signature line in that case...

 

Yes, I probably should, my daughter is using the 4S. I paid $700+ for it with tax. The marketing hype and status symbol got her, she wanted one badly, what can I do? :)  But for kids it's a good toy phone.

 

I used to own the iPhone 3G three year ago when it was more competitive. Now Apple lost its touch. Apple became cocky, lazy and stagnant. 


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You should probably change your signature line in that case...

Yes, the 4S is my daughter's. I used to own the iPhone 3G 3 year ago when it was more competitive. Now Apple lost its touch. Apple became lazy and stagnant. 

Nice try.
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As a consumer why should I care if Apple or another company makes the most profit? I only care to buy a good device that serve my needs. Please save us with the overseas comment that they used dumb phone..for your info overseas telecommunication systems and networks are several years ahead of the US.

 

So you've never been left in the lurch by a company that went bust and was unable to meet things like warranty obligations or other support services such as help lines, software updates and bug fixes.

 

Lucky you.

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Nice try.
I disagree. That was a pitiful attempt. We are usually used to a better class of...shall we say people who bend the truth...here in the forum. Usually when you make a post you don't put evidence that disproves your post in the same post. At least make us check your previous posts in incongruencies. If your not going to try, it's really not any fun.

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interesting stories:
appleinsider reports "Apple takes over one-third U.S. smartphone marketshare, tops Samsung "
while pretty much at the same time, cnn runs a story about an IDC report where "Android races past Apple in smartphone market share" ... stating "More specifically, IDC pegged Android's gain "directly" to Samsung, "

 

Think of it like Ford diesel vehicles versus gasoline powered vehicles.

 

Manufacturer vs manufacturer is not the same as one manufacturer vs an OS.

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Apple used the same strategy in the 80s and lost. No way they can continue to be successful.

 

 

/s

 

iPod & iTMS won in the 2000s. They're still successful.

 

not /s

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Yes, I probably should, my daughter is using the 4S. I paid $700+ for it with tax. The marketing hype and status symbol got her, she wanted one badly, what can I do? :)  But for kids it's a good toy phone.

 

I used to own the iPhone 3G three year ago when it was more competitive. Now Apple lost its touch. Apple became cocky, lazy and stagnant. 

 

Yeah, it's no fun chasing superior specs, replacing one plastic Android toy for another, every six months so you can brag about having the most gigahertzzzes and most inches.

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Don't forget lying about how good they are, then rejoicing when an update fixes something the liars claimed wasn't broken in the first place.

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1/2 gb ram? It is still the fastest running smartphone on geek bench- better than the S3. So what if it had 2gb, but was slower- would that be better?
Tiny screen- ok. This will likely change.
NFC- what does that help with currently? Google wallet sucks. It's actually awful.
Sd/USB storage- what phone had that at all anymore?
Small non-removable battery- again what phone has that now? And when it runs 8 hours (as opposed to the competition's 4 hrs)- they need an extra battery.
Lte will also be coming- but didn't want to be introduced until infrastructure and battery friendly chips were out (which just came out)- hence the 8 hr battery life behind such a "tiny" screen.
Apple will bring stuff out and introduce it to their phone when it's going to be best received. I think the bigger screen could have come last year- but that's it. Everything else could've and shouldve waited. Companies like google who rush google wallet out can claim "they had it first"- but it sucks. The technology wasn't there- the vendors werent on board- the programming was clunky- the security measures weren't in place- etc. that's why it wasn't well received. I'd love for apple to bring it out with this next iPhone- but if they decide to wait until 2013, so they can add fingerprint technology as a security feature while using the app- fine by me- that's smart.
Being first isn't always best- we've witnessed that. Being finished and polished is best.


Ram is about how much can be loaded at any given time. Phones are pretty reliant on this given their lack of ability to use free space as virtual memory. My guess would be that "true multitasking" would be a massive battery drain. Microsoft also commented on ram in mobile devices a while ago, citing an issue of battery life due to the volatile nature of ram. Anyway the original ipad was quite low on ram, and this was somewhat of a limiting factor. Trying to say ram equates to geekbench scores is just ridiculous, and I'm convinced you already know the two are unrelated as long as the calculations geekbench performs fit properly within ram.

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