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post #41 of 66
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Originally Posted by nunyabinez View Post

Cool if I was a drug dealer or into one night stands. It seems to me like the nefarious uses for this far our weigh the legitimate ones, but maybe that's just me.

What a curious point of view for someone with a screen name like "nunyabinez"...

Seems like this would be right up your alley!

 

And I kinda think that punishing users with legitimate reasons isn't going to do anything to cut down on drug-dealing...

or those horrific "one night stands" (Don'tcha just hate it when those happen???).

post #42 of 66
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Originally Posted by IHateScreenNames View Post

It's funny how quickly people took a negative view to this app!

 

I think the craigslist angle is great.  We have a window we want to sell on craigslist and this will be great for that, for all the obvious reasons.  It also isn't uncommon for my wife and I to meet people while on vacation and maybe have dinner or do something together with them.  Having a disposable number will make these brief encounters easier as I don't like to give out my phone number even in normal situations.

 

Sure, it can used for "nefarious" purposes.  Maybe we shouldn't have phones AT ALL since phones in general can be used for illegal activities.  While we're at it, let's get rid of all modes of transportation (when I was in high school a kid used to sell marijuana from his bike), and maybe ban the Internet.  And TV.  The postal service.

Good points.

post #43 of 66
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Originally Posted by lilgto64 View Post

I was thinking just to limit telemarketers and such ....

A lot of telemarketing comes from the phone number linked to your credit card (i.e., the credit card company, businesses you buy from, and their affiliates).

post #44 of 66
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Originally Posted by logandigges View Post

News Flash: New iPhone "Burner" Debuts Just for Drug Dealers, Rapists, Murderers and Whores!

Story: Drug dealers, pur your hands up! A new app has debuted for you along with the other bad people in the world such as, one night standers, stalkers and Craigslist rapists and murderers! Rejoice, terrible people! Come buy this app for an extremely low price and avoid the law.

This should really not be on the app store.

It can still be traced back to you. Just like the IP address your computer leased yesterday can.
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post #45 of 66
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Originally Posted by mstone View Post

Phone number supply has been a problem in my area for years. They make new area codes all the time. Eventually we will probably have something like IPv6 for phones or just VoIP.

We got a couple blocks of 310 numbers no problem-- 100 DIDs each. It gets harder to obtain if you are trying to re-sell, but you can actually look up NXX assignments somewhere-- there is plenty of space. But, just a DID costs us about $0.20 per month without any time, so I would be very curious how someone can re-sell the service at an attractive price.

Cool service. Good idea. Just wish they could integrate with iMessage...
post #46 of 66
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Originally Posted by Magic_Al View Post

How big is the pool of disposable numbers? Seems like this thing would run out of capacity pretty soon.
Actually, there is a decent supply of numbers for something like this to last a while.

The key is that they are using numbers from lightly used area codes (e.g., rural Iowa). It's the heavily populated places that are running out of numbers and requiring new area codes.

Note that these disposable phone services aren't new. About five years ago there were a couple that were free (I suppose their plan was to make money selling ads, etc.); one was Numbr (later known as iNumbr).

Today, pretty much all of them are paid services. The 'Burner' app's rates are quite competitive.
post #47 of 66

Well the reason it's such a hassle to block and number and it costs so much is because it's useful and many many people want to do it.   Not like the telecoms are going to slay one of their cash cows just to be helpful to their customers.
 

post #48 of 66

The fact that it costs money will scare away most causal trolls and pranksters.

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post #49 of 66
Numbr used to be the free go-to choice for this kind of service. Temporary numbers for the exact time frame that you needed, that forwarded to your existing number.

Numbr went paid a long time ago, but they seem to have removed the emphasis on "temporary" numbers and are now targeting businesses etc. instead of the Craigslist crowd.

There are a few other services that do what Burner does as well. Google is your friend.
post #50 of 66
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Originally Posted by Harbinger View Post


You seem rather knowledgeable about who drug dealers might or might not do.


There is a somewhat well-known technique of people who want to stay under the radar: coordinated pre-paid SIM cards on the dumbest phones available. You buy a set of prepaid SIM cards for a group of people that want to communicate with each other 'in private', program the SIM cards such that all have each others number on them under a recognisable name. And then you create a new set of SIM cards for the next day and so on. Each group member thus gets a box of SIM cards with instructions to put in a new one every day. Because all SIM cards are preprogrammed with the other member's numbers, they can call each other easily. So, no phone number is used for more than one day but because the cards are preprogrammed, nobody has to remember or communicate the new numbers.

 

Of course, the person doing the programming knows every number, so you have to trust that one.

 

(I think I read about this method in New Yorker but I am 100% sure it was there.)

post #51 of 66
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Originally Posted by Anon-spec View Post

There are a few other services that do what Burner does as well. Google is your friend.

 

Yes, there may be other companies that supply a similar service but, no, Google is not your friend.

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post #52 of 66

If once the number has been used and no one can ever use that number anymore, then we are going to have to go to a 20 digit number pretty soon.  10 digits is enough.

post #53 of 66
Originally Posted by drblank View Post
…we are going to have to go to a 20 digit number pretty soon.  10 digits is enough.

 

Hexidecimal phone numbers!

 

"4A2-63F-9BCF"

 

"We're sorry, you must first dial an 'A', '6', 'C', or '9' and then the number of your…"

 

*hang up*

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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post #54 of 66

Finally an App Store Supported app for stalking, I was growing tired of getting them off of Cydia.

post #55 of 66
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

I hate this so much. 

I hate this so much.

I hate this so much.

I hate this so much.

I hate this so much.

I hate this so much.

I typed out each of those.

 

This is the phone equivalent of those 10-minute e-mail signup websites. The only use for those is TROLL ACCOUNTS ON FORUMS. 

 

With the ability to make a phone number that lasts 20 minutes and 20 SMS, telemarketers and spammers can send as much crap as they want to as many people as they want and NOT GET PUNISHED because when you go to report the phone number to the Do Not Call list, it's not actually tied to anything, and so no one knows where it came from.

 

I don't see anything that says you can make OUTGOING calls with this Burner app.  If that was true, then I'd be a bit worried about the issues you mention, but because there is actually a cost to creating every one of these numbers, telemarketers and spammers probably aren't going to use something like this very much.  Also, if not for the temporary-email sites I'd never sign up for anything online. Ever.  So I'm very thankful for them; mailinator rocks!

 

Can anyone confirm or anti-confirm that it's possible to make "disguised" outgoing calls?

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post #56 of 66
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Originally Posted by Paul94544 View Post

Google Voice acheives this at no cost with even more features like voice mail sent to ones's email address and people who call to harrass can be blocked.

 

Maybe, but who the hell wants to have EVEN MORE of their lives attached to anything related to google?  Sure, you can effectively block others from contacting you, but you're also giving google another Borg tube into your body.  ugh.

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post #57 of 66

I think it says a lot about someone when they can only see the negative uses for something new.

post #58 of 66
Originally Posted by Slang4Art View Post
I think it says a lot about someone when they can only see the negative uses for something new.

 

Show's we're depressed, is what it does. lol.gif

Originally Posted by Slurpy

There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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post #59 of 66

AND a new phone number.  You can only use one google number with one actual phone number unfortunately. I've tried!

post #60 of 66

How is a one night stand nefarious?  It takes two to tango.  

What a repressed view of the world.  

post #61 of 66
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Originally Posted by Blah64 View Post

I don't see anything that says you can make OUTGOING calls with this Burner app.  If that was true, then I'd be a bit worried about the issues you mention, but because there is actually a cost to creating every one of these numbers, telemarketers and spammers probably aren't going to use something like this very much.  Also, if not for the temporary-email sites I'd never sign up for anything online. Ever.  So I'm very thankful for them; mailinator rocks!

Can anyone confirm or anti-confirm that it's possible to make "disguised" outgoing calls?

It would be a fairly limited tool if it didn't.

I really like this app idea. People automatically assume nefarious or lecherous purposes, but even when you've just met someone in a legitimate setting, you don't really know them yet. Whether it''s a date, a business deal, a co-worker, or whatever, it would be a nice bit of peace of mind to be able to use a number that you could just turn off if they turn out to be stalker-ish.
post #62 of 66

Free service to do this: http://www.ringshuffle.com/

 

You can probably do this from a browser on your phone, but from your desktop browser, you can do this for any phone, not just smartphones.

 

As far as I know, it allows you to receive calls at the temporary number, but it won't mask outgoing calls.

post #63 of 66
Originally Posted by Kayle View Post
Free service to do this: http://www.ringshuffle.com/

 

I was greeted on that site by a giant picture of a woman cringing. That's the last time I'll ever consider this site at any time for any purpose.

Originally Posted by Slurpy

There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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post #64 of 66
I stumbled upon this app last night and installed it just to see how it works and its really pretty cool. People with negative intentions dont need an app to make those negative intentions happen,they can make a negative situation out of just about anything so lay off the app and let people judge it for themselves.
post #65 of 66
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Hexidecimal phone numbers!

"4A2-63F-9BCF"

"We're sorry, you must first dial an 'A', '6', 'C', or '9' and then the number of your…"

*hang up*

Letters mean numbers, or did you forget that?
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post #66 of 66
Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post
Letters mean numbers, or did you forget that?

 

I’ve never liked that setup. Hex phone numbers on a brand new phone system (with ALAC audio streams) would be better.

Originally Posted by Slurpy

There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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