Originally Posted by GadgetCanada
Could you imagine if Tim quadruppled down on security? I would probably have an iPhone (6th generation) in my hand right now
As Apple gets bigger, this is inevitable. There's only so much they can do to prevent any potential leaks from suppliers. From here on out we can forget about never seeing any aspect of a device until its officially revealed. Those days are over, especially when every launch will sell in the tens of millions and they need to get a shitload manufactured and stockpiled ahead of time.
Originally Posted by JCC
Why didn't they use MagSafe technology? That would have been awesome without having to push and pull. Just have it snap into place. If Steve were alive, that's what he would have asked the engineers to do.
The 'If Steve was alive' shit is getting beyond ridiculous, I find it disgusting and despicable, to try and shove words into his mouth while being utterly ignorant of the context of how this was desinged. And no, he wouldn't have, because a magsafe would not work on such a light device. If you gave it 5 seconds of thought before suggesting that you would have also realized it. The magnets would have to be INSANELY weak so as to disconnect without pulling the device, and having magnets that weak would create a whole host of issues, including inadvertant disconnection. It only works with laptops because the weight threshhold is there. Also, did you maybe stop to think that the current magsafe is power ONLY. This cable will be transmitting data/syncing, etc. Do you really think its such a great idea to have it so easily disconnect while transferring data? Do you not realize all the potential problems it would cause? Do you still know for a fact this is what Steve would have asked the engineers to do? The guy liked to push the limits, but he was also practical, and this would be in no way, shape, or form practical. Stop putting words into a dead guy's mouth.
Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
They're not, though.
Since you've obviously used a USB port at least once before in your life, I can't see how you can say this with a straight face.
And there you go again TS, replying in a sarcastic, condascending way to someone who just happens to be right, while you're wrong. USB ports/connectors are reversible since when? Not a single one I've ever used. He is absolutely right in what he's saying, and you're wrong. No need for your sarcasm.
Originally Posted by Mac_128
This can't be the final design. Doubt this is real. Apple would never create an insertable tab connector like that. There's nothing elegant about it. Unless this is a post Steve decision. Way too easy to break off. Now perhaps if this were intended to be housed inside some kind of shell al la USB, et al ... But take a look at any Apple product, aside from standard audio connectors there is nothing like this ... This has PC written all over it ...
I assumed this was a parody post from the 1st line, then realized maybe it wasn't. You came to all these incredible conclusions after looking at the device for 5 seconds? Do you think Apple's design/engineering team are utterly incompetent, and they havent thought through a whole host of issues while making this? The probably started shortly after the iPhone 4 launch, so more than 2 years, and some extremely skilled, intelligent, and motivated people have spent thousands of hours considering/building a shit ton of options. Why not give them at least the benefit of the doubt, and wait until the full product is shown? But clearly, you know better, a random messageboard poster, after seeing a photo of what may or may not be the connector on the internet, and knowing absolutely nothing about it. I sometimes wonder how some of you function in the real world, with the kind of conclusions you make based on zero background info, and the utter lack of humility you exhibit with your matter of fact 'this is shit' pronouncements, based on, again, absolutely nothing. Well done.
Originally Posted by Mac_128
Seriously? The dock connector is very robust. It's a structurally engineered ridgid metal enclosure, the pins are inside. It slips pretty tightly into a port with guides to align the tab that inserts, fairly shallowly I might add, into the slot.
This has been an Intuitive design pattern all the way back to the Apple II.
Ever notice how PC connectors have the male pins on the device, the female on the cable, so when a cable is inevitably pulled out or the incorrect plug jammed into the port, the pins on the device are broken off requiring a major repair, instead of the apple way where the pins are broken on the cable side, requiring only a new cable?
They aren't going to change that philosophy. This is not about selling a product with or without cameras ...
So they should keep the current connector forever, a connector launched in 2003 where the tech landscape/requirement bore absolutely no resemblance to what it is now. I wonder where Apple would be if they followed your 'philosophy' of never moving things forward.
Originally Posted by macslut
The next time my girlfriend grabs her iPhone and starts to run off while it's still plugged in, can I call you and have you explain how Magsafe would be pointless to her?
This one is too easy. The only products in existence today that have a magsafe connector are Apple's laptops. What does your girlfriend do when she has to use, oh I dont know, every other thing in existence that relies on a power cable? If your girlfriend consistently 'runs off' with things that are plugged in, I think there's bigger issues than the connector itself. Strange how I've never once managed to do that after 4 years of owning an iPhone (or any phone) and plugging/unplugging it at least 2-3 times a day. A more logical solution is for you to explain to her that she can perhaps take half a second to determine if the phone is plugged in or not before grabbing and running off with it. Magsafe on a phone would have a ton of issues and would be impractical, just check the beginning of my post. Because your gf does something extremely rare/strange, does not mean Apple should implement a solution that would cause a whole host of other problems.
Whew. Sorry, had to get some of that our of my system. SOme of the responses here blow my mind. If I had a nickel for everytime Apple became even more massively successful after people like you guys on exclaimed they were doing it all wrong, based on limited imagination and limited (or non-existent) understand of the product...
Edited by Slurpy - 8/10/12 at 3:39pm