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Samsung on Tuesday moved forward with arguments in its case against Apple, going on the offensive by alleging the iPhone maker infringed on three patents regarding the usability of multi-feature portable devices like smartphones.

Harvard professor and patent specialist Woodward Yang, was called to the stand as Samsung's fourth witness, gave testimony regarding three patents owned by the South Korean company covering photos, email attachments and playing music in the background.

According to in-court reports from CNET, Yang claims to have spent some 300 to 400 hours researching Apple devices for trial purposes, alleging certain models of the iPhone, iPad and iPod touch infringe on Samsung's patents.

During his testimony, Yang demoed a photo emailing patent by showing Apple's iDevices sending pictures taken of an orange. According to the witness, the invention was designed with feature phones in mind, doing away with the hassle of connecting the device to a computer to offload photos. It is unclear if the patent covers Apple's integrated photo sharing options.

In another photo-related patent claim, Samsung asserted a photo album patent where a user can bookmark a specific photo for later viewing. Yang demoed the allegedly infringed feature on the iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4, iPad 2 and fourth-generation iPod touch, all of which presented the same image when bringing up a photo roll in an app other than Apple's default Photos.

Finally, Samsung asserted a patent which describes a software solution for music to be played in the background behind other open apps. Yang notes the idea for the claim was to find a way to keep music playing when switching through apps, while keeping device size down by not introducing decoding hardware.

In cross-examination, Apple lawyer Bill Lee went on the offensive, referencing a page from Samsung's side-by-side comparison of the iPhone and what would would become the Galaxy S, saying the Korean company studied Apple's implementation of email attachments.

"In your 400 hours of work, you have not found one iota of evidence that Apple knew about the '893 patent, or copied the '893 patent," Lee said in reference to the photo album feature. Yang said the assertion was true.

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Source: Apple v. Samsung court documents


The Apple lawyer noted that none of the patent inventors testified in Samsung's defense, nor does the company use any of the asserted properties in its smartphones. Lee asked Yang how Apple could have copied the features if they weren't present on Samsung devices.

Yang was the third Samsung witness to take the stand on Tuesday, following Adam Bogue and Clifton Forlines, both of whom were involved with Mitsubishi Electric Research Laboratories' DiamondTouch table.
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Now Samsung is copying Apple's lawsuit against them! Is there no limit to what they'll do?

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post #3 of 29

They are bringing out the fun factor thats all

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This is rather comical on Samsung's part. It's like the whiny kid in school who constantly cries out "ME TOO!!! ME TOO!!!"

 

Samsung is getting desperate.

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Am I really suppose to care about a bunch or rich people fighting over more money. 

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Wait, Samsung wants us to believe Apple copied the idea of emailing a photo, bookmarking a photo, and playing music in the background... from Samsung? Is this for real? I mean.. no words. 

 

The hypocrisy of Samsung accusing Apple of patenting 'rounded rectangles', insinuating that they patent broad concepts, while Apple has supplied extremely numerous and detailed examples of infringement, and then bringing up shit like the concept of playing music in the background and emailing a photo? What a joke. 

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By the way, Did Apple paid license royalty to Jeff Han ?

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I cant remember the source, but I believe Apple has an agreement or something with him since the beginning, The link here shows that David Pouge Asked him and he replied (I know the iPhone) but never stated the existence of some sort of agreement, but was not angry either.

 

As we know Apple usually keeps this things silent. Some times apple say (no licensing) but we see proof they offer it. 

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Now Samsung is copying Apple's lawsuit against them! Is there no limit to what they'll do?

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Originally Posted by 845032 View Post

By the way, Did Apple paid license royalty to Jeff Han ?

 

Do those videos have anything to do with the article at hand?

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Originally Posted by 845032 View Post

 

 

 

 

By the way, Did Apple paid license royalty to Jeff Han ?

That doesn't look like a "portable multifunction device with a touch screen display" - which is what Apple's patent is for.

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I have to just insert this in here, but according to late breaking ABC news, Bill Gates has fixated on a consumer product Apple has totally overlooked. Gates is gonna "clean up" by re-inventing the toilet! Now, I'm not making this up! Most of the prototypes are on display this week in the open courtyard of the Seattle headquarters -- I have no idea why he doesn't have them inside.

 

One of the design goals is that the new toilets need to be able to operate for only a nickel... "Imagine it," Bill exclaimed to Melinda, "A gawd-dammed nickel every time someone squats!"

 

Considered a perfect companion to the "Surface," the new "Hole" will give the consumer a place to sit while trying to figure out their new Fisher-Price computer. There was no mention of whether a family plan may be offered. An Apple spokesman had "no comment" on the news of the new "Hole," but did lose his composure and broke down in fits of laughter before managing to hang up.

 

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/toilet-technology-150-years-waste-17005287#.UCrcO66U9tU

"That (the) world is moving so quickly that iOS is already amongst the older mobile operating systems in active development today." — The Verge
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I have to just insert this in here, but according to late breaking ABC news, Bill Gates has fixated on a consumer product Apple has totally overlooked. Gates is gonna "clean up" by re-inventing the toilet! Now, I'm not making this up! Most of the prototypes are on display this week in the open courtyard of the Seattle headquarters -- I have no idea why he doesn't have them inside.

 

One of the design goals is that the new toilets need to be able to operate for only a nickel... "Imagine it," Bill exclaimed to Melinda, "A gawd-dammed nickel every time someone squats!"

 

Considered a perfect companion to the "Surface," the new "Hole" will give the consumer a place to sit while trying to figure out their new Fisher-Price computer. There was no mention of whether a family plan may be offered. An Apple spokesman had "no comment" on the news of the new "Hole," but did lose his composure and broke down in fits of laughter before managing to hang up.

 

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/toilet-technology-150-years-waste-17005287#.UCrcO66U9tU

Actually that's a big deal. In lesser developed countries, the waste gets into the water supply and leads to disease and illness. Kudos to Bill and Melinda Gates.

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Why the heck aren't more places creative with their titles anymore?

 

Unless the story is about someone's death or a tragic event somewhere, I want every news article title to be a pun from now on.

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I love how they call it the "i-Phone".

 

 


Tim Cook using Galaxy Tabs as frisbees

 

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Tim Cook using Galaxy Tabs as frisbees

 

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OMG, Apple is doomed. Playing music in the background? That must have taken some serious R&D to figure that one out.

I guess when people said "Apple better watch out because Samsung is a patent powehouse" they weren't kidding.

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Oh, one more thing. Did they need a Harvard professor to explain background music or e-mailing a photo?
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By the way, Did Apple paid license royalty to Jeff Han ?

The irony is that Jeff Han is also from Korea.  Apple is battling with a Korean company in a Korean Judge court with a technology developed by Korean.  

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Han

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The funny thing to me about Sammy's claim is that they only name certain iOS devices and not others....yet the issue they are claiming infringes has to do with the software that runs on the devices and not the hardware. Am I missing something? Does not the 4S which is not named, run the same OS as the 4 which is named? Do not the iPad 1 and 3 run the same OS as the iPad2? Seems if they are going to make this claim that all iDevices should be included since they all run the same OS......One more thing that seems bogus about Sammy in general.

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Originally Posted by hjb View Post
The irony is that Jeff Han is also from Korea.  Apple is battling with a Korean company in a Korean Judge court with a technology developed by Korean.  

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson_Han

 

Koh is an American judge of Korean descent. Just as I am an American of Swiss-Irish descent. I consider myself neither Swiss nor Irish.

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Playing music in the background?

...but, but, but that would require "real" multitasking, on iPhones that's unpossible!!!

(That popping sound in the background is the sound of millions of fandroid heads imploding.)
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Originally Posted by Takeshima View Post
It looks like the pro korea bias is going to help samsuck.Sickening 

I hope Justice will prevail and apple will win

 

No. Refer to my post above here and in response to your other on the other thread.

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Homosexual judges are not allowed to sit in on same sex marriage court cases because of the risk of bias so why is Lucy “kohREA” with her strong korean connections allowed to moderate a case between two huge companies Apple(USA) AND samsuck(korea)

Samsung are stalling the inevitable and should be tried for contempt of court with their BS delay tactics and circus sideshow "experts".

 

Looking at your comment here and your 'Location', you are here to discredit Korea and Samsung altogether.  Good luck with that.

 

By the way, Tallest Skill made a fair comment at #21.

"Koh is an American judge of Korean descent. Just as I am an American of Swiss-Irish descent. I consider myself neither Swiss nor Irish."

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Am I really suppose to care about a bunch or rich people fighting over more money. 

No. But I am a bit puzzled: if you didn't, why do you post here in response to this story?!

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I really don't give a rats ass about the dam Apple vs Samsung lawsuit. Is the technology field so slow these days that the site needs to fill up the pages with the boring legal wrangling between these two companies? Can we get back to reporting on real technological innovations?

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Looking at your comment here and your 'Location', you are here to discredit Korea and Samsung altogether.  Good luck with that.

By the way, Tallest Skill made a fair comment at #21.
"Koh is an American judge of Korean descent. Just as I am an American of Swiss-Irish descent. I consider myself neither Swiss nor Irish."

AMEN...that's why I will forever consider myself BLACK-American (or more aptly put, American) I will never ever be African American...no one in my entire family going back hundreds of years has ever been to Africa...so why should I be deemed from there?

Sorry, rant...hate that term. Black is fine. American is better.
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Am I really suppose to care about a bunch or rich people fighting over more money. 

 



Not really. You will most likely never invent anything in your life, so the protection of that invention is a moot point. That said, if you ever happen to buy a device from Apple or Samsung, then you may end up paying a premium price in order to pay for these lawsuits. And of course just the idea of a foreign company violating patents of an American company shouldn't get you riled up either. So again, don't worry about it. Wizard 101 will continue to play no matter what the outcome.

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When is Samsung going to put up their own employees, they have hired guns who through their own research are making conclusion. Really, they have not clue what the inventor had in mind when they wrote up a patent. If the want to make claims that apple step on their patents then bring forward the people who's name appears on the patent and have them explain how a Samsung patent was copied, They can not therefore the reason that Samsung is making ever attempt to invalidate the apple's patents since they can not win any other way since they know they copied.

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