Originally Posted by galore2112
LOL ATT !
They had me as a customer since 2007. Average bill was $125/month. This was without a text messaging plan but with international calling (metered).
Well, they had their wish and had me cancel their unlimited data plan.
But then, when my iPhone4 contract expired, I had them unlock my phone and switched to T-mobile pre-paid. So instead of $125/month they get $0/month from me and will never get me back as a customer.
And I will badmouth them whenever this topic comes up because I was truly offended by their "you are abusing the data plan with your 2.5GB/month data gorging" SMSs after charging me $125/month.
Now I have $50 (unlimited voice, data (Edge - so it sucks), text) + $10 (unlimited international).
Data via Edge is horrid but not as bad as being ripped off by those ATT vultures. And T-mobile is supposed to make their network iPhone compatible in the near future.
Never again will I get a subsidized, locked phone. Ridiculous monthly charges and obscenely expensive international roaming when on vacation.
I wasn't aware that you could get unlimited international on T-mobile. If I start traveling internationally, again, I may switch to T-mobile just for that reason. I'll have to look into it.
Originally Posted by Cyve
Verizon just lost a case where they were sued for charging extra for tethering. Essentially the issue is the same: double charging clients for their data. Once you pay for a specified amount of data you then have the right to use it in any means as you wish. However, ATT will now force those who want to use their data via FaceTime to be in a particular plan that is more expensive for the consumer. Certainly, they are motivated by their desire to do away with customers who have unlimited plans. If there is a movement for a class action lawsuit then I would be a strong supporter. Tired of being bullied and strong armed by these companies.
There's a major difference. Verizon had to agree to allow tethering because of the terms of their purchase of the 700 MHz spectrum. That does not apply to AT&T or Sprint.
Of course, it may force AT&T and Sprint to follow due to competitive pressures, but they don't HAVE to.
Originally Posted by BrianCPA
Could someone inform me about the pros and cons of using the iPhone 4S on Straight Talk (other than price)? I did a little research and saw that MMS doesn't work the same (whatever that means... if someone could explain that, they would be great too). Will voice and data coverage be identical to what I get with AT&T right now? Better? Worse? I'm not overly pleased with AT&T coverage in Wisconsin but I want to make sure that Straight Talk will AT LEAST be at that level.
Configuration can be a bear. If you simply buy the Straight Talk SIM and insert it, your phone will work properly and you will have a working phone. Getting data or text messaging requires that you change the APN settings which is not trivial.
There are several options for changing apn settings:
1. There's an online app which allows you to do this (I don't remember where it is, but it involves going to a web page from the .nz domain). The advantage is that it's simple and doesn't require jailbreaking. Unfortunately, the disadvantage is that it doesn't always work. On my iPhone 4S, it didn't get me data or text messaging. Most other people say it works, so it's worth a try.
2. You can use the Apple iPhone Configuration utility to change settings. More complicated than #1, but also doesn't require jailbreaking. For me, it got my data and text messaging working, but not MMS. YMMV
3. You can jailbreak the phone and use third party apps to set the APN and other settings. Just search for information on line to get the settings required.
I spent hours on the phone with Straight Talk tech support to get #3 finally sorted out. They apparently don't have settings that always work. I kept getting "OK, that didn't work, so let's try this" and some new settings. It turned out that in the end, the problem was on their end and they had to reset my account to make it work. Eventually, I got it working. There is, however, one limitation. Straight Talk claims that you can not either send or receive MMS when your phone has WiFi turned on. Text works OK, but not MMS, so I was regularly turning off WiFi even at home just to see if anyone had sent me an MMS message and, of course, I had to turn WiFi off to send MMS. In the end, though, I was able to find one of the many APN settings that allowed MMS to work even if I had a WiFi connection active and everything works fine now.
So, the answer is that it may take some tweaking to try to get things working and Straight Talk's tech support isn't all that great (although they do answer the phone and TRY to help you about 10,000 times faster than AT&T). If you don't mind futzing around a bit and searching for APN settings or spending time on the phone with them, it's a good solution.
The only feature that you can't get working at all is visual voicemail. You'll be stuck with the old-fashioned "press 7 to delete this message" prompts.