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Fresh pictures posted on Friday claim to show both the "iPad mini" and next-gen iPhone's dock connector flex cables side-by-side, with the images hinting that Apple will launch the smaller tablet in both white and black colorways.

The high quality photos from repair site iResQ claim to be of the internal flex cables bound for Apple's sixth-generation iPhone and much-rumored 7-inch iPad.

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Side-by-sie comparison of alleged "iPad mini" (left) and next-gen iPhone (right) flex cables. | Source: iResQ


Of note are the white and black dock connector and headphone jack surroundings, which give clues that Apple is planning on releasing both black and white versions of the smaller iPad on launch. The move isn't surprising given all of the company's iDevices are offered in at least those two colors.

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Close-up of the next-gen iPhone's 9-pin dock connector, in white. | Source: iResQ


Clearly seen in one of the new high-resolution images is a white version of the next-generation iPhone's 9-pin dock connector. AppleInsider recently reported the 8 gold pins seen on the part will work in conjunction with the surrounding metal shell, which will also acts as a contact, bringing the total count of contacts up to nine. According to sources, the new layout will enhance data throughput while bringing down the size of the part by some 60 percent.

Also of interest is the headphone jack location, which now resides very close to the 9-pin connector on both flex cables, offering further evidence that Apple is revamping the plug's positioning to the bottom of the devices much like the iPod touch. Currently, the iPhone 4S and New iPad have headphone jacks located at the top of the unit.
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"iPad mini" part, but the headphone jack is no further away from the Dock Connector 2 than the iPhone's part is… Seems more like an iPod touch's part, but as there's less to jam in that case than the iPhone's, the parts can have more leeway.

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I am still going to stand by my theory that the 7" device is going to be the new iPod Touch. Makes sense to me as it avoids all the controversy on how SJ said a 7" iPad did not make sense. 

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"iPad mini" part, but the headphone jack is no further away from the Dock Connector 2 than the iPhone's part is… Seems more like an iPod touch's part, but as there's less to jam in that case than the iPhone's, the parts can have more leeway.

 When I saw the pictures I thought the same thing, this is no "smaller iPad" part.

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I saw a drawing somewhere of a dock that used both the new connector and the headphone jack to support the device. If that was the case, the headphone jack would be the same distance from the new dock connector on each device, surely?

Of course, the drawing was pure speculation but it's an idea to consider.
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I saw a drawing somewhere of a dock that used both the new connector and the headphone jack to support the device. If that was the case, the headphone jack would be the same distance from the new dock connector on each device, surely?
Of course, the drawing was pure speculation but it's an idea to consider.

 

I agree.  All devices will use the same dock connector / headphone jack combo.  Analog audio will go out via the headphone jack - the new 18 pin connector won't support that anymore.

 

Although that makes me wonder if the connector is really reversible, as folks have been asserting.  It would seem to be keyed, due to the placement of the headphone jack.  That would be interesting, since 18 pins opens up a lot of connectivity options.  Thunderbolt?

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Why is everyone forgetting the fact that they basically confirmed they are transitioning ALL iDevices to the new dock connector at once?

 

The image with the larger ribbon could easily be for the current generation iPad (3rd Generation). This doesn't add any evidence of a new device what so ever.
 

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Not to be a hater, but that is a lot of cabling...  I would think they would have had a more efficent city planning by now that would minimize roadwork.  Consider how beautiful the board layout for the macbook retina is.

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I agree.  All devices will use the same dock connector / headphone jack combo.  Analog audio will go out via the headphone jack - the new 18 pin connector won't support that anymore.

 

Although that makes me wonder if the connector is really reversible, as folks have been asserting.  It would seem to be keyed, due to the placement of the headphone jack.  That would be interesting, since 18 pins opens up a lot of connectivity options.  Thunderbolt?

 



The new dock will absolutely be orientation independent. Assuming these are real it's obvious from the shape of the port.

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Well, well, the iPad mini parts are finally leaking out. I have a hunch that the iPad mini will be ANNOUNCED in Sep 12th along with the latest iPhone, but, unlike the latest iPhone, the smaller iPad won't ship immediately. What Apple will do is suppress all brand X 7" sales for a month or two while they gear up the production of the iPad mini to full speed. This has a dual benefit to Apple, (1) screw up their competitor's sales, while (2) building a huge pent-up demand for the Apple product. As a bonus, Apple will get millions of dollars of free attention which will bury the competition's ads down into the background noise. 

 

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Why is everyone forgetting the fact that they basically confirmed they are transitioning ALL iDevices to the new dock connector at once?

 

The image with the larger ribbon could easily be for the current generation iPad (3rd Generation). This doesn't add any evidence of a new device what so ever.
 

Well, unless these are elastic ribbon cables they are not gonna stretch an additional 3" to 4" to do the job in both sized iPads. 

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I agree.  All devices will use the same dock connector / headphone jack combo.  Analog audio will go out via the headphone jack - the new 18 pin connector won't support that anymore. Although that makes me wonder if the connector is really reversible, as folks have been asserting.  It would seem to be keyed, due to the placement of the headphone jack.  That would be interesting, since 18 pins opens up a lot of connectivity options.  Thunderbolt?

 

The new docking port will probably be reversible. The 8-pin to 30-pin ADAPTOR, however, probably will not be, as I suspect it will use the audio plug connections to support the current audio, microphone, and control pins on the older 30-pin jack.

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I am still going to stand by my theory that the 7" device is going to be the new iPod Touch. Makes sense to me as it avoids all the controversy on how SJ said a 7" iPad did not make sense. 

That doesn't make sense. Logically, it fits as a smaller iPad but not as a large iPod Touch.

In fact, to some extent, Apple needs a break from Jobs worship.
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The new docking port will probably be reversible. The 8-pin to 30-pin ADAPTOR, however, probably will not be, as I suspect it will use the audio plug connections to support the current audio, microphone, and control pins on the older 30-pin jack.

 

Actually, I'm not so sure about the reversible bit anymore.  Reports are trickling in that the port only has 9 pins - it's one-sided.  So, no 18 pins, and not reversible.  Any analog audio would have to come from the headphone jack.

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 When I saw the pictures I thought the same thing, this is no "smaller iPad" part.

 

This was no boating accident!

 

Sorry. Had a flashback. Carry on. 

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Ahhhh.

 

Again,

I state and maintain that Apple will NOT be releasing an iPad Mini.

This is NEVER EVER going to happen.

 

At most,

Apple will be releasing the Next Generation iPod Touch.

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I saw a drawing somewhere of a dock that used both the new connector and the headphone jack to support the device. If that was the case, the headphone jack would be the same distance from the new dock connector on each device, surely?
Of course, the drawing was pure speculation but it's an idea to consider.

conjecture or not... this eliminates the need for the analog audio pins on new connector.  Makes sense a std dock connector, and for an audio/video adaptor cable.

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I wonder why Apple is moving the headset jack to the bottom of the next iPhone.  It makes me wonder if there will be a headset plug facing up from the bottom of the next iPhone dock, to plug in the base as a mic/headset when the dock connects.

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I saw a drawing somewhere of a dock that used both the new connector and the headphone jack to support the device. If that was the case, the headphone jack would be the same distance from the new dock connector on each device, surely?
Of course, the drawing was pure speculation but it's an idea to consider.

 

D'oh!  I should have read through other comments before I posted mine.  We're thinking the same thing, more or less.  Yes, surely the distance would be the same for each kind of device (meaning, iPhone/iPod versus iPad/iPad mini.

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Ahhhh.

 

Again,

I state and maintain that Apple will NOT be releasing an iPad Mini.

This is NEVER EVER going to happen.

 

At most,

Apple will be releasing the Next Generation iPod Touch.

a 7.0" iPod touch with an RD screen (2X)? 

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Is it just me, or is the whole "i"Device nomenclature getting a bit long in the tooth?
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That would have been cool if they used a MagSafe style connector instead of the 30 pin.

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Is it just me, or is the whole "i"Device nomenclature getting a bit long in the tooth?

 

I was thinking the same thing the other day.  The iMac came out going on 15 years ago now (hard to believe).

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Ahhhh.

 

Again,

I state and maintain that Apple will NOT be releasing an iPad Mini.

This is NEVER EVER going to happen.

 

At most,

Apple will be releasing the Next Generation iPod Touch.

And what size would this iPod Touch be?  The same size as the iPad mini?  How about an iPad Nano?  Or an iPad micro?  Or an IPod Magnum?

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IF it is an "iPad Mini" or an "iPod Touch Jumbo" … either way, can we stop calling it a "7-inch" device?
 

No indications ANYWHERE say it's the same size or shape as a Nexus 7 or a Kindle Fire, or any other "7-inch" tablet format device...

 

ALL indications are that it's a 7.85" device… aka an 8-INCH device (9.7" is referred to as 10-inch, so 7.85" is 8-inch, yes?)…

 

Why do the AI writers keep referring to it as a "7 inch iPad"?

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Why is everyone forgetting the fact that they basically confirmed

Nothing. Apple is the only one hat can confirm these details and they haven't. So at this point who know what's going on

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What fanboyish denial is this? IT'S A 7.85" IPAD. PERIOD. There's no way they're calling something that large an iPod. At 7.85", the touch elements of a 768*1024 pixel iPad-type iOS interface are THE EXACT SAME SIZE AS THE IPHONE'S. There'd be no need to change ANYTHING, in fact, it would be actually EASIER than getting current apps to the 3rd gen iPad.

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Originally Posted by Torvalus View Post
Why is everyone forgetting the fact that they basically confirmed they are transitioning ALL iDevices to the new dock connector at once?

 

Because it's not confirmed in any respect under any system of logic? It is 100% given that they are moving all devices to Dock Connector 2. It is 0% given that they are doing it all at once, and frankly it's ludicrous to even think they'd do that.

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Flex Cables

 

It all looks good to me.   The only thing I don't understand is the curve of the audio jack hole on the iPad mini connector.  

I would have expected it to be cut off at an angle, but instead it's a sort of saddle cut that you would get if the body of the iPad mini was rounded like an iPhone 3GS.

 

Maybe the new iPad mini is going to be made out of cheap, lightweight plastic?

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I saw a drawing somewhere of a dock that used both the new connector and the headphone jack to support the device. If that was the case, the headphone jack would be the same distance from the new dock connector on each device, surely?
Of course, the drawing was pure speculation but it's an idea to consider.

that is possible.  One of the last iPod Shuffles did this.  So it's not totally out of the question for Apple to do this.  That would assume however that Audio would be transmitted only through the audo Jack.  Wow, that would really throw a wench in the 3rd part market.


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"iPad mini" part, but the headphone jack is no further away from the Dock Connector 2 than the iPhone's part is… Seems more like an iPod touch's part, but as there's less to jam in that case than the iPhone's, the parts can have more leeway.

 

Judging by the accuuracy of my little finger.  The iphone headphone jack is further away than the 'ipad mini' part.  

 

 

as they note in the iresq blog post.

 

 

They also have another picture that seems to show no contacts on one side of the dock

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I am still going to stand by my theory that the 7" device is going to be the new iPod Touch. Makes sense to me as it avoids all the controversy on how SJ said a 7" iPad did not make sense. 

I don't recall Jobs ever saying that a 7" iPad did not make sense.

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It doesn't look very Magsafe-ish :(

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What fanboyish denial is this? IT'S A 7.85" IPAD. PERIOD. There's no way they're calling something that large an iPod. At 7.85", the touch elements of a 768*1024 pixel iPad-type iOS interface are THE EXACT SAME SIZE AS THE IPHONE'S. There'd be no need to change ANYTHING, in fact, it would be actually EASIER than getting current apps to the 3rd gen iPad.

Exactly. An 8" iPad would be 64% as big as a 10" iPad. An 8" iPod Touch would be about 500% the size of a standard iPod Touch. Which makes more sense?

Furthermore, look at the branding. The iPod Touch is basically a music device which also allows you to play some games. The iPad is a general purpose (albeit somewhat limited) general computing device. It doesn't make sense to have an 8" music device.

Finally, the iPad brand is hot - and growing. The iPod Touch brand is becoming quite dated and somewhat obsolete.

It makes no sense to call it an iPod Touch.
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Originally Posted by cycomiko View Post
Judging by the accuuracy of my little finger.  The iphone headphone jack is further away than the 'ipad mini' part.  

 

That (the iPhone jack) will bend to make it closer.


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It doesn't look very Magsafe-ish :(

 

It was never going to be.

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Looks like the Classic iPod (finally) will be discontinued.

 

My prediction:

new iPod  (4" Screen, A5X processor, 3mp camera) $199

new iPod  (7'' Screen A5X processor, 5mp camera, Siri) $299

new iPod nano (return of bigger screen with a small home button, bluetooth) $149

new iPod shuffle (with touch screen) $99

new iPhone (4" Screen, Quad Core, A6 processor, 10mp camera, iWallet, meet new Siri) $199, $299, $349 w/contract

 

iPhone 4 (free w/contract) iPhone 4S $99 w/contract

 

new redesigned iTunes with Twitter integration, web-version, iCloud streaming

new HD music format

 

That will make a great holiday quarter.

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I can't make this broken crappy forum software post pictures but if this part is real then the iPad mini will definitely have an edge curve similar to the iPhone 3GS.  

The audio jack parts from the 3G and 3Gs match it almost exactly in form, the ones from the iPad 2 & 3 are slanted and a different shape altogether.  

 

These are either fake pictures or I predict the iPad mini (iBook?) will be black/white plastic.

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Looks like the Classic iPod (finally) will be discontinued.

 

My prediction:

new iPod  (4" Screen, A5X processor, 3mp camera) $199

new iPod  (7'' Screen A5X processor, 5mp camera, Siri) $299

new iPod nano (return of bigger screen with a small home button, bluetooth) $149

new iPod shuffle (with touch screen) $99

new iPhone (4" Screen, Quad Core, A6 processor, 10mp camera, iWallet, meet new Siri) $199, $299, $349 w/contract

...

 

I would say instead: 

(shufflle and classic discontinued)

 

new iPod nano - $99

new iPod touch (4" Screen) - $150

 

new iPad mini  - $199

new iPad - $399

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I don't recall Jobs ever saying that a 7" iPad did not make sense.

2010 ipad 1 keynotes.
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I would say instead: 
(shufflle and classic discontinued)

new iPod nano - $99
new iPod touch (4" Screen) - $150

new iPad mini  - $199
new iPad - $399

Beside the 399 new ipad this makes more sense to me. They have the ipad 2 at 399 no need to reduce the price of the new ipad. Unless you mean they will change the ipad 2?
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