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post #41 of 48
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Originally Posted by Fairthrope View Post

Could both men please bring only interpreters, and lock their lawyers and corporate cheerleaders outside the room?

Nah, UFC Cage Match!. Two CEOs enter, only one leaves alive. On pay-per-view and Web streaming.

"Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone."

John C. Dvorak, 2007
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"Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone."

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post #42 of 48
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Nah, UFC Cage Match!. Two CEOs enter, only one leaves alive. On pay-per-view and Web streaming.

 

Cage match = locking lawyers outside :)

post #43 of 48

no, people have looked at every A series CPU release under a microscope and they are all Samsung CPU's with some Apple specific changes and the Imagination GPU. the current Apple TV is a test bed for Samsung's move to 32nm fabrication. Apple does this with every new tech, they test it on a smaller product line to work out the kinks. Didn't the head of the last CPU company Apple bought leave because he said he wasn't doing anything cool, apple just had the whole team do minor circuitry changes?

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Originally Posted by simpleankit View Post

Apple has achieved what it wanted. If by any chance, Apple loses this case, hell will break loose with copy cat products sprouting everywhere. 

 

Apple should understand that message is already delivered to Android camp.  By stretching this case, they risk many things,  a, Risk of patents being held invalid b, Risk of scope of patents getting too narrowed to avoid copy cat products c, Risk of  very less damage award. It will have an opposite effect of what Apple wants.

 

Having come this far, I think Apple is unlikely to settle. They took on the biggest company, Samsung. If they get any sort of judgement that Samsung copied the iPhone, it's going to make it very uncomfortable for HTC, LG or any of the little guys without a big patent warchest to come anywhere close to Apple's stuff.

 

My guess for the day is that, while the verdict will be mixed, Samsung will be held to have infringed. I suspect this may make the Koreans go nuts and bring some case in their own backyard that will go the other way. But I would trade that market for the US one any day.

post #45 of 48
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Originally Posted by smack416 View Post

These two companies are so closely tied together Apple should be able to gain from Samsung a public acknowledgment and large settlement, along with a cross-licensing agreement (similar to the one with Microsoft, where they're not allowed to clone Apple's products) in exchange for Apple's continued reliance on Samsung for future parts.
Samsung's long-term success should be it's CEOs primary concern. If they know they're in the wrong here, there shouldn't be too much of a hit to honour or ego in taking this approach and they can move on by empowering their designers to blaze new trails.

 

Apple wants the precedent so Samsung and others will not do this in the future.

Samsung crossed the Rubicon long ago. Apple already has contracts for the parts they need from Samsung and are lining up deals with Samsung's competitors.

There is no way Apple will cross license anything of significance with Samsung. Contrary to Samsung's position, Apple is already entitled to FRAND terms on the open standards based patents (and they want this well established as well) and Samsung has little of nothing to offer Apple in return.

 

The problem is that one can never count on a judge and jury to get things right (the first time.) If they don't get it right, Apple will appeal until the law is clearly established. They want clarity they can depend on as a foundation for their innovation.

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Apple wants the precedent so Samsung and others will not do this in the future.

Samsung crossed the Rubicon long ago. Apple already has contracts for the parts they need from Samsung and are lining up deals with Samsung's competitors.

There is no way Apple will cross license anything of significance with Samsung. Contrary to Samsung's position, Apple is already entitled to FRAND terms on the open standards based patents (and they want this well established as well) and Samsung has little of nothing to offer Apple in return.

 

 

You know I wouldn't be sure about Apple moving away from Samsung on everything. There is a reason they haven't done this already. It's likely that Samsung hits a combination of production capacity,  fabrication resources, manufacturing consistency, and price that is difficult to replicate. You know that the contracts are worth billions, yet this doesn't indicate the cost to fulfill them.

 

 

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The problem is that one can never count on a judge and jury to get things right (the first time.) If they don't get it right, Apple will appeal until the law is clearly established. They want clarity they can depend on as a foundation for their innovation.

There's a problem when you equate the right thing with your own desires. You're biased. If there is nothing to consider, the process itself is a waste of time.

post #47 of 48

Apple: " Give us your Super AMOLED at pennies on the dollar and we will fuhgetaboutit!"

 

Samsung: " We will give it to you for dimes on the dollar."

post #48 of 48

Hi everyone. I wonder if it may go something like this?

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-14843549

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