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A collection of parts said to be from pre-release builds of Apple's next iPhone have been put together by an online repair firm, which found that they fit "perfectly."

Pictures of the partially assembled components were shared with AppleInsider on Monday by iResQ. They show parts for the docking port and and headphone jack assembly fit inside of a frame claimed to be for Apple's next-generation iPhone, frequently referred to in the media as the "iPhone 5."

Not only did the parts fit "perfectly" into the frame, but one of iResQ's technicians was able to screw the assembly into the pre-aligned screw holes inside the frame, according to a blog post by the repair firm. The fact that all of the parts fit together lends even more support to the belief that the components are legitimate.

Shown side by side with an iPhone 4S, the new device has a slightly taller design, aligning with rumors that Apple plans to feature a larger 4-inch display on its next-generation iPhone.

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iResQ noted that the frame and back casing they obtained is an incomplete shell that needs more parts. They said there are many missing plastic gaskets and fittings that should make the tiny gaps between the docking port and headphone jack fit more snugly in the final product.

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The partial assembly also hints that the speaker in the next iPhone will fit into the device similar to how it has been placed in the iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S. The repair firm speculated that the speaker on the next iPhone will, as a result, be comparable to the quality with the previous two generations.

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The collection of parts assembled comes on the heels of another series of pictures that claim to show the display assembly for Apple's next iPhone. They, too, show a device with a slightly taller display.

Other changes expected, and supported by leaked components, are a headphone jack moved to the bottom of the device, and a redesigned, smaller dock connector. AppleInsider detailed last week information on the new dock connector, which is expected to feature a 9-pin design that can be connected in two opposite orientations.

Apple is expected to hold a media event on September 12 to formally announce its sixth-generation iPhone, a date that would likely place the formal launch on September 21, given the company's timeframes in previous years. It has been rumored that Apple will begin accepting preorders for its next iPhone the same day that it is announced.
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Now that the form factor (and parts) are all but confirmed, I am wondering if I will feel the extra length in my pocket while sitting down.
 

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... Pictures of the partially assembled components were shared with AppleInsider on Monday by iResQ. ...
 

 

It would be so funny if Apple was just sitting back and making a big list of all the repair shops leaking these parts onto the Internet, and subsequently decided to discontinue parts service to all of them based on the violation of their agreements.  

 

I would love to see all these immoral idiots shut down for good and lose their livelihood.  It would serve them right and be highly entertaining in the process.  

 

I'm sure there would be endless threads on AppleInsider as a result as well.  No doubt they would be filled with idiot trolls arguing that Apple had "no right" (to terminate service based on a clear contract violation), and so forth.  This is just my own private fantasy of course, but I hope Apple does it.  It would certainly be within their rights.  

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Originally Posted by Gazoobee View Post

It would certainly be within their rights.  


While I agree with you that anyone leaking can and should be punished however severely Apple deems, part of the fun of the whole thing is seeing these parts, you know?

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Part leaks spur discussions and build hype before a product release. Even though Cook said he wanted to "double down on security", I'm sure Apple doesn't mind this kinda stuff at all.

LOL people should just enjoy whatever phone they prefer and stop being d-bags about other phones they don't use. Fanboys are pathetic, regardless of whether they are Android or Apple ones.
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It would be so funny if Apple was just sitting back and making a big list of all the repair shops leaking these parts onto the Internet, and subsequently decided to discontinue parts service to all of them based on the violation of their agreements.  

 

I would love to see all these immoral idiots shut down for good and lose their livelihood.  It would serve them right and be highly entertaining in the process.  

 

I'm sure there would be endless threads on AppleInsider as a result as well.  No doubt they would be filled with idiot trolls arguing that Apple had "no right" (to terminate service based on a clear contract violation), and so forth.  This is just my own private fantasy of course, but I hope Apple does it.  It would certainly be within their rights.  

 

I am fairly certain that Apple does not work with any of these iOS repair shops, nor do they have parts agreements with them either. Most of the repair parts they use are not actually Apple parts, and the original Apple parts that they do sometimes offer come at a high price because of how difficult they are to acquire.

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On the other hand, parts and feature leaks contribute to a feeling of being let down on reveal day.

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I am fairly certain that Apple does not work with any of these iOS repair shops, nor do they have parts agreements with them either. Most of the repair parts they use are not actually Apple parts, and the original Apple parts that they do sometimes offer come at a high price because of how difficult they are to acquire.

 

Well, I don't know the details either except the rather obvious ones which are that the parts are definitely not supposed to be photographed and put on the Internet.  Someone, at some point in the chain is directly violating their agreement and it should be pretty easy to tell who that is.  I'd just love to see them reap some consequences is all. 

 

Several of the parts shops have also previously indicated that they order the parts through "regular" channels and that they are allowed to have them as part of their repair business which makes some kind of sense to me.  If they did arrive at them legitimately as they claim, it's a given that they aren't allowed to show them on the Internet and have violated whatever licensing and accreditation agreements they may have with Apple.  

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Now that the form factor (and parts) are all but confirmed, I am wondering if I will feel the extra length in my pocket while sitting down.
 

(with apologies to Mae West)... Only if new tech normally has that effect on you.

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I wouldn't be surprised at all if these parts were part of a larger controlled leak, and they're all fake and the real next-gen iPhone is a much bigger improvement. Sketched it out once, a 720p screen at the same resolution would be 4.5", and if they cut out the side bezel and halve the top and bottom bezels, the device wouldn't be significantly larger than the 3.5" generations.

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Originally Posted by Jsyedinak View Post
On the other hand, parts and feature leaks contribute to a feeling of being let down on reveal day.

 

No, that's on you, the individual. It's your choice to believe that Apple is going to make a tablet with a touchscreen on the BACK or an iPhone with solar panels or inductive charging. It's also your choice to whine about it on forums when these nonsensical ideas that were never going to come true don't come true. lol.gif

 

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…cut out the side bezel and halve the top and bottom bezels…
 

What, the nonexistent side bezels and the top and bottom bezels crucial to using the device in landscape, you mean?

 

I seem to have the opposite feeling on bezels than most. I prefer almost zero bezel around my paintings and a usably large bezel around my electronics. 

 

I just don't get this. It's a waste of wall space to me. 

 

 

Now, I've nothing against ornate frames at all in the right setting, I just hate pictures with all the extra space between the frame and the image. I generally prefer the artwork and the wall have as little between them as possible.

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On the other hand, parts and feature leaks contribute to a feeling of being let down on reveal day.

 

For those of us who follow Apple on an hour-by-hour basis, sure.  New flash: most of the consumer world doesn't and are excited to see the "new" product on launch day.

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Now that the form factor (and parts) are all but confirmed, I am wondering if I will feel the extra length in my pocket while sitting down.

I've never had a complaint about the extra length. ;)

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If this is the new iPhone design then I can't help feeling somewhat underwhelmed by it.

Reports of future Apple products on these sites have been uncannily accurate of late come official launch date.

However, an iPad mini announcement would go someway to remedying my disappointment.
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Now that the form factor (and parts) are all but confirmed, I am wondering if I will feel the extra length in my pocket while sitting down.

Apple expects garment makers to get "Made for iPhone"-certified pockets. lol.gif

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I wonder what the Android people speculate about for the next gen high-end Android phones after one is released...what will the future hold in 3-6 months?

 

Like:

 

It will run Jellybean! Maybe.

It will have a 6.2" screen. Most likely. Bigger is better. One-handed use be damned!

It will have a hexacore processor. It'll need it to run Android smoothly (ok more smoothly)...even with a pat of "Butter".

It will have a high-res screen...that inches ever closer to Apple's Retina PPI but doesn't hit it. Who cares, it has a hexacore processor.

The camera will be "eh", but who cares, it might run Jellybean!

At least it will still have Flash! Full Internet here I come! Oh wait...

 

Meanwhile we sit here and speculate on pins for a dock connector. 

 

Just food for thought.

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On the other hand, parts and feature leaks contribute to a feeling of being let down on reveal day.

 

I don't think this is a major issue. So many people commented about being disappointed in the 4S and it still broke sales records.

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Looks just as thick as the old iPhone in this pic sadly.

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Originally Posted by blackbook View Post
Looks just as thick as the old iPhone in this pic sadly.


Yeah, heaven forbid the battery is usable.

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post #20 of 62

The longer screen is better for maps. But only if you're traveling north/south.

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It's obviously a fake: the screws are all regular ol' phillips. :o

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... Pictures of the partially assembled components were shared with AppleInsider on Monday by iResQ. ...
 

I would love to see all these immoral idiots shut down for good and lose their livelihood.  It would serve them right and be highly entertaining in the process.  

Celebrating anyone's "losing their livelihood" in these economic times seems backwards. Plus, if you can't see anyone's face or reaction to something someone does to them (positive or negative alike), where is the entertainment value for you?

Besides, if Apple canceled every manufacturer's order that had a mole in their midst, there wouldn't be an iPhone 5 on 9/21. There wouldn't even be an iPhone 4S Second Edition.

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Why does the inside tooling look different?

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I've never had a complaint about the extra length. ;)

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I think we're resigned to the fact there will be some parts leaks, it happens, but it seems like there are too many of them this time around compared to previous iPhones.
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Why does the inside tooling look different?

It does seem to be machined with a different pattern than in previous images, but that can be normal during the development of a part, different tool paths can be used to try to optimize for speed, tool wear, etc. The cleanup around the bosses look odd, where you have tool bits at different heights that shouldn't be, leaving a channel around the bosses. The metal part looks like bare aluminum to me, I don't understand what is going on there. The more mature parts look like they were coated gray.
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Looks just as thick as the old iPhone in this pic sadly.

 

The iPhone 4 is missing the top glass.  Imagine another layer in the "Glass-metal-glass" sandwich on the iPhone4 on the right and the iPhone5 will be thinner.

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Looks just as thick as the old iPhone in this pic sadly.

 

Well it's a pretty awful picture and you can see the phone is on some kind of weird slant as well as being slightly twisted.  

 

It's supposed to be thinner by 0.7 mm which is pretty small but it should be noticeable in a proper side by side shot. 

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Looks just as thick as the old iPhone in this pic sadly.

 

In that pic it does, but fully assembled it should be significantly thinner.

 

In the 4/4S, the glass sits on top of the metal frame. In the new iPhone, the glass sits inside the frame. Considering the old iPhone had glass on both sides, that adds up to a considerable savings.

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Celebrating anyone's "losing their livelihood" in these economic times seems backwards. Plus, if you can't see anyone's face or reaction to something someone does to them (positive or negative alike), where is the entertainment value for you?...

 

The "entertainment value" would be from all the forum postings I was imagining and whether I "celebrate" or not has no bearing on anything.  The fact is that if any of these people lose their business as a result of something like that happens they have no one to blame but themselves.  People who lie, break agreements, (or the law) etc. need to get caught.  Without such consequences, there is no society.   

 

I'm not being mean to say that I would delight in the law being upheld for a change and for cheaters to reap some consequences for their actions.  It's a good thing. It's something we all should be cheering for.  Without the law and the concept of right/wrong we are nothing but a bunch of grunting animals with no more rights than the average fish, fowl, or bear in the woods.  I prefer to think humans are more than just base animals, otherwise there isn't much point to anything.  

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Originally Posted by 11thIndian View Post
The iPhone 4 is missing the top glass.  Imagine another layer in the "Glass-metal-glass" sandwich on the iPhone4 on the right and the 6th iPhone will be thinner.

 

My… stars. Do you really think that the new iPhone will be able to pull that off? Having NO extra thickness outside the bands? Somehow I don't see it, but that's me. Maybe I'm just used to bricks.

 

And it can't be said enough, I would bring it back up to first-gen thickness before I accepted ANOTHER loss of battery life. LTE is going to be a killer unless Apple's using the absolute newest chips.

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I've never had a complaint about the extra length. ;)

Is that an iPhone 5 in your pocket or ...

 

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No, that's on you, the individual. It's your choice to believe that Apple is going to make a tablet with a touchscreen on the BACK or an iPhone with solar panels or inductive charging. It's also your choice to whine about it on forums when these nonsensical ideas that were never going to come true don't come true. lol.gif

What, the nonexistent side bezels and the top and bottom bezels crucial to using the device in landscape, you mean?

I seem to have the opposite feeling on bezels than most. I prefer almost zero bezel around my paintings and a usably large bezel around my electronics. 

I just don't get this. It's a waste of wall space to me. 



Now, I've nothing against ornate frames at all in the right setting, I just hate pictures with all the extra space between the frame and the image. I generally prefer the artwork and the wall have as little between them as possible.

While I agree with you as to that particular piece, often disconnecting the image from the frame with a large border is effective. Particularly with photography, the frame is a distracting influence. But it must be done right, as the border, and the frame become part of the art itself.
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Well it's a pretty awful picture and you can see the phone is on some kind of weird slant as well as being slightly twisted.   

It doesn't look like it fits very well at all. The earphone jack is not centered and the dock has all kinds of space around it. Perhaps this image was taken before they screwed it in place. confused.gif

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It doesn't look like it fits very well at all. The earphone jack is not centered and the dock has all kinds of space around it. Perhaps this image was taken before they screwed it in place. confused.gif

I would call the earphone jack at least partly an issue of parallax. I think there might be an inner bezel that's missing. iPhone 4/4S has an inner bezel, and that explains the depth/gap.
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I wouldn't be surprised at all if these parts were part of a larger controlled leak
Isn't the point of these leaks intentional by Apple? I mean, with so many significant changes, don't they want to give the third party accessory makers a little bit of a heads up? I don't think there is any official internal communication between Apple and those certified suppliers (and there are many who don't certify anyway), so the only way to give any kind of clue would be through a staged leak. Otherwise, the new iPhone would hit the streets and there would be no accessories for it in the supply chain for several months.

I always thought Apple orchestrated the whole thing ...

Now that recovered prototype found in the bar, a fully assembled and functional iPhone ... I don't think Apple wanted that at all ...
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Its not. It the glass is thiner and there is no glass on the back. It is about as thick as the metal band on the Iphone 4

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Originally Posted by Mac_128 View Post
…with so many significant changes, don't they want to give the third party accessory makers a little bit of a heads up?

 

Since they're the ones making the products, why wouldn't they just TELL the accessory makers the exact dimensions of their new products… 

 

I don't think there is any official internal communication between Apple and those certified suppliers (and there are many who don't certify anyway), so the only way to give any kind of clue would be through a staged leak.

 

What in the world kind of sense does that make?

 

Otherwise, the new iPhone would hit the streets and there would be no accessories for it in the supply chain for several months.

 

When it hits the streets, there won't be a single accessory that will work with it anyway! Have you seen any Dock Connector 2 pin descriptions leaked?! Leaks are NOT how case and accessory manufacturers find things out!

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Part leaks spur discussions and build hype before a product release. Even though Cook said he wanted to "double down on security", I'm sure Apple doesn't mind this kinda stuff at all.

 


These leaks impact sales months before a new model release. There's very good reasoning behind keeping new product releases secret: 1) giving companies like Samsung less time to clone their products and 2) limiting the Osborne effect which can kill the company's revenue.

 
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Looks just as thick as the old iPhone in this pic sadly.

 

Extra length and just as thick with plenty of leaked photos.  What demographic are they aiming for with this?

 
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Extra length and just as thick with plenty of leaked photos.  What demographic are they aiming for with this?

 

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